#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
04/14/25 • 34 min
Sande Golgart was the guy who said yes to every opportunity, outran every challenge, and never sat still—until one day, the success story stopped feeling like his.
In Part One, he opens up about going from slam dunk champ to corporate high-performer to someone questioning the very game he was winning. He talks about early ambition, the trap of nonstop action, and the moment he realized: “You climb, climb, climb... then realize the mountain isn’t even yours.”
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
From Slam Dunks to Sales Calls
“I was competing in dunk contests all over the country. I used that same mindset in business.”
The High Performer Trap
“I just kept saying yes. I never said no. I kept moving, kept growing, kept stretching.”
Action Over Inaction
“Even if you take a wrong step, at least you’re moving. Inaction is a choice too—but it gives you nothing to work with.”
The Wake-Up Line
“You climb, climb, climb... then realized the mountain isn’t even yours.”
No Off Switch
“I didn’t even know what I liked. I never stopped long enough to ask.”
_____________________
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Sande Golgart
--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.
Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.
12 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.
>>>140,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
Sande Golgart was the guy who said yes to every opportunity, outran every challenge, and never sat still—until one day, the success story stopped feeling like his.
In Part One, he opens up about going from slam dunk champ to corporate high-performer to someone questioning the very game he was winning. He talks about early ambition, the trap of nonstop action, and the moment he realized: “You climb, climb, climb... then realize the mountain isn’t even yours.”
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
From Slam Dunks to Sales Calls
“I was competing in dunk contests all over the country. I used that same mindset in business.”
The High Performer Trap
“I just kept saying yes. I never said no. I kept moving, kept growing, kept stretching.”
Action Over Inaction
“Even if you take a wrong step, at least you’re moving. Inaction is a choice too—but it gives you nothing to work with.”
The Wake-Up Line
“You climb, climb, climb... then realized the mountain isn’t even yours.”
No Off Switch
“I didn’t even know what I liked. I never stopped long enough to ask.”
_____________________
Connect with us:
Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Sande Golgart
--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.
Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.
12 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.
>>>140,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
Previous Episode
#299 Chris Quek: Building the Next Gen, Starting With His Own
Chris Quek isn’t just building startups—he’s building a generation.
In this second half of his story, he shares how selling his inheritance became the launchpad for Thrive, a VC firm that invests in Southeast Asia’s overlooked next-gen entrepreneurs. From structuring value-aligned startups to teaching his kids the principles behind technology, Chris shows how legacy isn’t something you receive—it’s something you design.
For Gen Xers navigating intergenerational tension, personal ambition, and regional impact, this episode delivers both hard-won wisdom and a hopeful blueprint.
>>From Closure to Creation
“I didn’t inherit a business—I shut it down.”
Chris shares the emotional closure with his father, the sale of the family factory, and how he turned personal loss into a new professional beginning.
>>Southeast Asia’s Family Business Wake-Up Call
“We raised a generation of lawyers and bankers—but who’s left to run the businesses?”
He explains how Singapore’s success came at a cost: the erosion of entrepreneurial drive—and why he’s now building the bridge back.
>>Designing a VC That Feeds the Ecosystem
“Our investors are second-gen family owners. Our startups solve their problems.”
Chris outlines Thrive’s unique model: a purpose-built flywheel that connects capital, tech, and legacy businesses in Southeast Asia.
>>Capital with a Conscience
“We backed a ride-hailing company where drivers take home 40% more pay.”
From AgriMax to Tata, Chris shares examples of startups Thrive has funded that combine profitability with real, human impact.
>>Fatherhood, Values, and the Next Next Gen
“I don’t teach my kids my methods—I teach them my values.”
Chris opens up about parenting three children under 13, mentoring with intention, and why good values—not rigid playbooks—are what truly last.
_____________________
Connect with us:
Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Christopher Quek
--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.
Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.
12 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.
>>>140,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
Next Episode
#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
In Part Two, Sande takes us into the quieter—but more honest—chapter that followed. He shares what happened when he stepped off the growth treadmill, redefined ambition, and began unlearning the beliefs that kept him over-performing and under-listening. From rebuilding marriage to carving out what he calls Life Peels, Sande shares what it means to grow by subtracting—not stacking.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Life After the Climb
“What would happen if I just got really quiet and listened? Not learned—listened.”
The Life Peels Method
“We’re like Michelangelo’s David. You don’t need to add anything—you just need to carve away what’s not you.”
Redefining Growth
“I’m done with strategy decks and trying to prove something. I just want clarity, ease, and to feel good in my skin.”
Marriage in the In-Between
“When our last kid left for college, we both needed space. Not because it was broken—but because we hadn’t had it before.”
How Less Became More
“When I let go of trying to control everything, the right things started happening. On their own.”
_____________________
Connect with us:
Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Sande Golgart
--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.
Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.
12 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.
>>>140,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
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