
Bonus Ep213: Talking Allyship and Solidarity on the Know Nonsense Anti-Racism Podcast
11/10/21 • 42 min
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Anti-Racism. Black Lives Matter. Allyship and Solidarity between equity-seeking groups.
We’ve touched a bit on these with Changing Lenses podcast guests over the last year, but haven’t dived as deeply into these topics as my friend and fellow podcaster Nura Yunus has. She created the Know Nonsense Podcast to educate listeners about the experiences and systems of racism that exist in Canada and across the world, and the ways in which they show up for people of colour every single day.
Nura is a Black Muslim woman, born and raised in Canada to parents who immigrated from Eritrea. The Know Nonsense Podcast is Nura’s passion project which she does on 100% volunteer basis, while she’s working full time in international development.
So today, I’m excited to share (with Nura’s permission) a slightly shorter version of our episode called “Talking Allyship and Solidarity”, which originally aired on the Know Nonsense podcast on October 29, 2021.
In this episode, you’ll learn about:
- Identity in relatedness, not accomplishments
- The self-sacrifices required in allyship
- Examples of solidarity (and division) in DEI and workplaces today
- Racism within our own families
- Power brokers vs. allies (credit: Mary-Frances Winters)
- White supremacy culture, vs. white culture supremacy
Contact Rosie and find JEDI resources at: https://www.changinglenses.ca/
Full transcript available here.
Guest Bio and References/Links
About Nura Yunus:
Nura Yunus (she/her) is a Black Muslim woman born and raised in Toronto, the traditional territory of many nations including the Mississaugas of the Credit, the Anishnabeg, the Chippewa, the Haudenosaunee and the Wendat peoples and is now home to many diverse First Nations, Inuit and Métis peoples. Nura currently works in international development and before this worked with various grassroots and non-profit organizations in program design and delivery, community development and workshop facilitation. Her passion for anti-Black racism has recently led to the creation of the Know Nonsense Anti-Racism podcast, a resource for learning about racial injustice from a Canadian perspective. When she isn’t working on the podcast you can find her reading works by authors of colour, watching documentaries, or hiking one of Toronto’s many beautiful parks.
Follow the Know Nonsense Podcast on:
LinkTree
Instagram
Email - [email protected]
References and resources in this episode:
Original Know Nonsense episode release: on Spotify.
- Where Do I Begin? Reading Plan
- Rachel Cargle – The Great Unlearn
- Guide to Allyship
- Tema Okun – White Supremacy Culture
Anti-Racism. Black Lives Matter. Allyship and Solidarity between equity-seeking groups.
We’ve touched a bit on these with Changing Lenses podcast guests over the last year, but haven’t dived as deeply into these topics as my friend and fellow podcaster Nura Yunus has. She created the Know Nonsense Podcast to educate listeners about the experiences and systems of racism that exist in Canada and across the world, and the ways in which they show up for people of colour every single day.
Nura is a Black Muslim woman, born and raised in Canada to parents who immigrated from Eritrea. The Know Nonsense Podcast is Nura’s passion project which she does on 100% volunteer basis, while she’s working full time in international development.
So today, I’m excited to share (with Nura’s permission) a slightly shorter version of our episode called “Talking Allyship and Solidarity”, which originally aired on the Know Nonsense podcast on October 29, 2021.
In this episode, you’ll learn about:
- Identity in relatedness, not accomplishments
- The self-sacrifices required in allyship
- Examples of solidarity (and division) in DEI and workplaces today
- Racism within our own families
- Power brokers vs. allies (credit: Mary-Frances Winters)
- White supremacy culture, vs. white culture supremacy
Contact Rosie and find JEDI resources at: https://www.changinglenses.ca/
Full transcript available here.
Guest Bio and References/Links
About Nura Yunus:
Nura Yunus (she/her) is a Black Muslim woman born and raised in Toronto, the traditional territory of many nations including the Mississaugas of the Credit, the Anishnabeg, the Chippewa, the Haudenosaunee and the Wendat peoples and is now home to many diverse First Nations, Inuit and Métis peoples. Nura currently works in international development and before this worked with various grassroots and non-profit organizations in program design and delivery, community development and workshop facilitation. Her passion for anti-Black racism has recently led to the creation of the Know Nonsense Anti-Racism podcast, a resource for learning about racial injustice from a Canadian perspective. When she isn’t working on the podcast you can find her reading works by authors of colour, watching documentaries, or hiking one of Toronto’s many beautiful parks.
Follow the Know Nonsense Podcast on:
LinkTree
Instagram
Email - [email protected]
References and resources in this episode:
Original Know Nonsense episode release: on Spotify.
- Where Do I Begin? Reading Plan
- Rachel Cargle – The Great Unlearn
- Guide to Allyship
- Tema Okun – White Supremacy Culture
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Ep212: Everybody Knows Somebody with an Episodic Disability, with Melissa Egan
You may be aware of ways to accommodate physical and mental disabilities. But what about episodic disabilities?
If you don’t know what an episodic disability is, you’re not alone. Once you hear Melissa Egan describe it, you’ll probably realize that you, or someone you know, has one.
Melissa is the National Lead of Episodic Disabilities at Realize, a Canadian charity that fosters positive change for people living with HIV and other episodic disabilities. She helps companies create work environments that are accessible and inclusive.
Please join us in Changing Lenses to see through the eyes of people with episodic disabilities, and how we can support and accommodate their needs.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
- Practical ways to make your workplace inclusive and accessible for people with diverse abilities while centering the person.
- The difference between medical and social models of disability, and why one is more inclusive than the other.
- Why insurance disability plans are inadequate to accommodate employees with episodic disabilities.
- How employers can build a culture of accommodation (that doesn’t cost a ton of money).
- How employees can talk to their employer about accommodating their episodic disability.
Contact Rosie and find JEDI resources at: https://www.changinglenses.ca/
Full transcript available here.
Guest Bio and References/Links
About Melissa Egan:
Melissa is the National Lead, Episodic Disabilities at Realize. She has worked in the field of health and HIV for over 15 years as an educator and facilitator, developing and delivering trainings to diverse audiences across Canada. Melissa brings a commitment to inclusion, diversity, equity, and accessibility to her work, and she has worked extensively with marginalized, LGBTQ, and Indigenous people. Melissa holds a BA and BEd from Simon Fraser University in BC and is currently pursuing an MEd at OISE - University of Toronto.
Find Melissa and other resources on Realize’s website: https://www.realizecanada.org/en/
References and resources in this episode:
https://www.realizecanada.org/en/our-work/episodic-disabilities/
http://www.episodicdisabilities.ca/
https://supportedemployment.ca/
https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-social-development/campaigns/hiring-persons-disabilities.html
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Ep214: Season Two Finale – Celebrating JEDI Visionaries!
It’s the final episode for Season Two! It’s been an incredible year since the Changing Lenses podcast first launched, and with the support of amazing listeners like YOU, we’ve become a community of JEDI Visionaries with over 2,500 podcast listens so far!
We’ll be taking a break before Season Three, and in this episode I share three key ways you can stay engaged and active in Changing your Lens.
As always, I’d love to hear from you. Any burning topics you’d like to see an alternate lens on? JEDI issues you’ve been wondering about? Email me at [email protected], contact me through my website, or send me a DM (audio or text) on LinkedIn, Instagram or Facebook (links below).
Lastly, I'm SO GRATEFUL for your support in keeping Changing Lenses accessible to as many people as possible! Your reviews, referrals and financial contributions amplify Justice, Equity, Decolonization and Inclusion across the globe. To make a contribution, please go to my website and Support the Podcast.
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