
Episode 6: Why Bother: Discovering the Desire for What’s Next by Jennifer Louden
07/19/20 • 45 min
What is it in life that you are bothering to care about? With the onset of COVID-19, life can sometimes seem even more mundane and purposeless. But every person needs a reason, a bother if you will, to care about and to give you purpose in your life.
Join us for our discussion with Jennifer Louden as we learn about her most recent book, Why Bother: Discover the Desire for What’s Next. Jennifer gives simple and practical ideas to help open yourself up to finding what it is you want to do in life.
This episode is meant to inspire you to think outside of the box about what your life could look like and how you can feel a little more alive. It’s important to discover the deeper callings inside of you that create meaning in your life. It is never too late to discover what you should bother about in life.
Key takeaways
- What desire looks like and why you should bother
- What a “why bother” period looks like
- Where she was at when she tried to discover her desire and how she did it
- How to separate desire from being enough as a person
- Some things that get in the way of bothering
- Her thoughts on expectations around change
- The next step people need to take in the process
- How to go about being seen
- Why it’s important to be seen
- Her thoughts on spirituality
- The essence of bothering
Books
- Woman’s Comfort Book: A Self-Nurturing Guide for Restoring Balance in Your Life by Jennifer Louden - https://www.amazon.com/Womans-Comfort-Book-Self-Nurturing-Restoring/dp/0060776676
- Why Bother: Discover the Desire for What’s Next by Jennifer Louden - https://www.amazon.com/Why-Bother-Discover-Desire-Whats/dp/1989603122
Jennifer Louden Bio
Jennifer Louden is a personal growth pioneer who helped launch the concept of self-care with her 1992 bestselling debut book The Woman’s Comfort Book. She is the author of six additional books, including The Woman’s Retreat Book, The Life Organizer and Why Bother? With close to a million copies of her books in print in nine languages, Jennifer is a sought-after speaker, addressing audiences across the USA, Canada and Europe. She is a former columnist for Whole Living, a Martha Stewart magazine, and has appeared on a number of television and radio shows and podcasts—including The Oprah Winfrey Show. Her work has been featured in People, USA Today, CNN, and Brené Brown’s books Daring Greatly and Dare to Lead.
As an entrepreneur and educator, Jennifer has offered women’s retreats for over 25 years, and her email newsletter reaches 20,000 subscribers weekly. She lives in Boulder County, Colorado.
What is it in life that you are bothering to care about? With the onset of COVID-19, life can sometimes seem even more mundane and purposeless. But every person needs a reason, a bother if you will, to care about and to give you purpose in your life.
Join us for our discussion with Jennifer Louden as we learn about her most recent book, Why Bother: Discover the Desire for What’s Next. Jennifer gives simple and practical ideas to help open yourself up to finding what it is you want to do in life.
This episode is meant to inspire you to think outside of the box about what your life could look like and how you can feel a little more alive. It’s important to discover the deeper callings inside of you that create meaning in your life. It is never too late to discover what you should bother about in life.
Key takeaways
- What desire looks like and why you should bother
- What a “why bother” period looks like
- Where she was at when she tried to discover her desire and how she did it
- How to separate desire from being enough as a person
- Some things that get in the way of bothering
- Her thoughts on expectations around change
- The next step people need to take in the process
- How to go about being seen
- Why it’s important to be seen
- Her thoughts on spirituality
- The essence of bothering
Books
- Woman’s Comfort Book: A Self-Nurturing Guide for Restoring Balance in Your Life by Jennifer Louden - https://www.amazon.com/Womans-Comfort-Book-Self-Nurturing-Restoring/dp/0060776676
- Why Bother: Discover the Desire for What’s Next by Jennifer Louden - https://www.amazon.com/Why-Bother-Discover-Desire-Whats/dp/1989603122
Jennifer Louden Bio
Jennifer Louden is a personal growth pioneer who helped launch the concept of self-care with her 1992 bestselling debut book The Woman’s Comfort Book. She is the author of six additional books, including The Woman’s Retreat Book, The Life Organizer and Why Bother? With close to a million copies of her books in print in nine languages, Jennifer is a sought-after speaker, addressing audiences across the USA, Canada and Europe. She is a former columnist for Whole Living, a Martha Stewart magazine, and has appeared on a number of television and radio shows and podcasts—including The Oprah Winfrey Show. Her work has been featured in People, USA Today, CNN, and Brené Brown’s books Daring Greatly and Dare to Lead.
As an entrepreneur and educator, Jennifer has offered women’s retreats for over 25 years, and her email newsletter reaches 20,000 subscribers weekly. She lives in Boulder County, Colorado.
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Episode 5: COVID-19 and trauma with Dr. Madeleine De Little
It was inevitable that a once-in-a-lifetime pandemic would impact our health and affect our emotional wellbeing. In this episode, Dr. Madeleine De Little, a trauma expert, shares about the impact of COVID-19 on our mental health.
As Dr. De Little shares, trauma with a capital T is one big event, however, there are small traumas that happen to us on a daily basis—not realizing how they impact our wellbeing. With COVID-19, we’re afraid of getting sick and the way we interact with others has completely changed.
In this episode, we learn about COVID-19’s impact on our overall health and wellbeing and how we gain a new sense of normalcy.
Key takeaways
- What trauma is exactly
- Different forms of trauma
- Her take on the idea of being uncomfortable with the unknown
- Ways trauma can impact people
- Why it pays to listen to your body rather than your head
- Professional work she does with children
- How COVID-19 has impacted individuals, families, and communities How the pandemic has affected how people relate to one another
- The impact of COVID-19 on children
- How to regain some sense of balance and normalcy post-pandemic
- Her thoughts on what the new normal looks like
Dr. Madeleine de Little Bio
Dr. Madeleine De Little is a therapist for children and adults who have experienced trauma. She is also an author of a book for therapists that she has entitled “Where Words Can’t Reach: Neuroscience and the Satir Model in the Sand Tray.” She has created a new way of working with children and adults which combines the neuroscience of safety and therapeutic attunement and attachment with the novel metaphors that emerge from implicit memory.
She facilitates the transformations of the default defences through the use of the emergence of novel metaphors in the form of figurines in the sand tray. The results of this work are powerful and lasting because it is accessing non-verbal images of the right brain and body. She is the founder of Neuroscience and Satir in the Sand Tray Certificate Program which she teaches in Canada, China, Singapore, Thailand, the Czech Republic and Slovakia.
Madeleine’s roles include being a mother, a partner to a wonderful man, an academic, an author, a trainer and a gardener. Madeleine’s purpose on this earth is to help as many children and adults who have been traumatized in some way, by training therapists to use the science behind imaginative and playful ways to heal. Welcome Dr. Madeleine De Little.
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Episode 7: Triggers and the layers below an emotion with Elizabeth Hardesty
Something happens and you begin to feel a particular way. This is a trigger and what you feel is an emotion. But what do you do next to respond from a place of emotional well-being?
In this episode, mental health counselor Elizabeth Hardesty shares the techniques she uses to help her clients dig deeper into an emotion. Learn about the iceberg technique, where you investigate what meanings, beliefs, and needs you may have around an emotion. Through this technique, you can learn to work through a strong emotion and share about it with others in a healthy way.
So, let’s dive in to see the iceberg (pun intended).
Key takeaways
- What she does specifically in the emotional well-being space
- What causes emotions
- Why people can act differently to the same situation
- Her definition of triggers
- Why people have triggers
- Some of the triggers people experience with the pandemic and the current political situation
- How to work through your feelings and triggers
- What coping is
- How to differentiate coping from self-care
- What your feelings tell you
- How to go about interrogating your feelings
- What the iceberg technique is all about
- What the different layers are
- What to do after your needs are met
- The seven deep desires of the heart
- Why different desires resonate with different people
Books
- Seven Desires: Looking Past What Separates Us to Learn What Connects Us by Mark and Debra Laaser - https://www.amazon.com/Seven-Desires-Looking-Separates-Connects/dp/0310318238
Elizabeth Hardesty Bio
Elizabeth Hardesty is a mental health counselor in the Twin Cities area. She received her graduate degree from Denver Seminary. She is passionate about emotional health and finds it such a humbling experience to walk alongside her clients as they move from a place of surviving to thriving. Her own experience of walking that same path with her therapist is what brought her into this career.
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