
D-MER - Depression while Breastfeeding
02/14/22 • 33 min
Did you feel anxiety, irritation, sadness, or depression when you pumped/breastfed? Is this maybe even the reason you stopped? If so, you might have had D-MER – something I have firsthand experience with. Dysphoric Milk Ejection Reflex (D-MER) is a condition affecting lactating women that is characterized by an abrupt dysphoria, or negative emotions, that occur just before milk release.
In this episode I talk to Alia who is the lactation consultant that first identified D-MER in 2007. She, herself, was a sufferer of D-MER while breastfeeding her third child and first described it as “a post-partum depression that comes and goes”. When she could not find anything on the topic, she started her own research and is now an international speaker and published writer on the topic.
I am willing to bet that most of you have not heard about D-MER, yet I am sure quite a few of us suffer from it. That is why it was very important to me to make an episode and I am very thankful to Alia for agreeing to talk to me. It was the first time I EVER talked to anyone about this and after we recorded the episode I was able to cope much better with my own D-MER symptoms.
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*The contents of the Busy Mom Pumping Podcast, website, and social media account, such as text, graphics, images, and other material (“content”) are for informational and educational purposes only. The content is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician, midwife, pediatrician, or other qualified health care provider with any questions you may have regarding your pregnancy, nursing, or a medical condition you or your child might have.
The podcast host and their guests are sharing their own stories and experiences as information general in nature, and not specific to you, the reader or listener, and is not intended as individual medical advice. The content provided on the Busy Mom Pumping Podcast encourages you to make your own prenatal and postnatal care decisions based upon your research and in partnership with a qualified health care professional. If you think you may have a medical emergency, call your physician, go to the emergency department, or call 911 immediately. Reliance on any information provided in this podcast/website is solely at your own risk.
The host and their guests only state their own opinions and do not represent any organizations or institutions.
Did you feel anxiety, irritation, sadness, or depression when you pumped/breastfed? Is this maybe even the reason you stopped? If so, you might have had D-MER – something I have firsthand experience with. Dysphoric Milk Ejection Reflex (D-MER) is a condition affecting lactating women that is characterized by an abrupt dysphoria, or negative emotions, that occur just before milk release.
In this episode I talk to Alia who is the lactation consultant that first identified D-MER in 2007. She, herself, was a sufferer of D-MER while breastfeeding her third child and first described it as “a post-partum depression that comes and goes”. When she could not find anything on the topic, she started her own research and is now an international speaker and published writer on the topic.
I am willing to bet that most of you have not heard about D-MER, yet I am sure quite a few of us suffer from it. That is why it was very important to me to make an episode and I am very thankful to Alia for agreeing to talk to me. It was the first time I EVER talked to anyone about this and after we recorded the episode I was able to cope much better with my own D-MER symptoms.
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Visit my site and show notes at: https://www.busymompumping.com/
Please leave me a review at: http://getpodcast.reviews/id/1571193626
Subscribe for Android users: https://subscribeonandroid.com/busymompumping.libsyn.com/rss
*This Podcast was created for informational purposes only. The content is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. The host and guests are only sharing their stories and listeners should always refer to the CDC guidelines and their personal care doctor professional. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition. If you think you may have a medical emergency, call your physician, go to the emergency department, or call 911 immediately. Reliance on any information provided in this podcast is solely at your own risk. The host and the guests only state their own opinions and do not represent any organizations or institutions.
*The contents of the Busy Mom Pumping Podcast, website, and social media account, such as text, graphics, images, and other material (“content”) are for informational and educational purposes only. The content is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician, midwife, pediatrician, or other qualified health care provider with any questions you may have regarding your pregnancy, nursing, or a medical condition you or your child might have.
The podcast host and their guests are sharing their own stories and experiences as information general in nature, and not specific to you, the reader or listener, and is not intended as individual medical advice. The content provided on the Busy Mom Pumping Podcast encourages you to make your own prenatal and postnatal care decisions based upon your research and in partnership with a qualified health care professional. If you think you may have a medical emergency, call your physician, go to the emergency department, or call 911 immediately. Reliance on any information provided in this podcast/website is solely at your own risk.
The host and their guests only state their own opinions and do not represent any organizations or institutions.
Previous Episode

The Doula - How a doula can help you in your breastfeeding journey
The biggest help in both of my post-partum journeys were my doulas. When I tell any new mom this, often I get the response: “What is a doula?”. I found out about doulas because my friend in LA had one for the nights, allowing her to catch up on sleep after she came home from the hospital. But doulas are so much more than that and that is why I sat down with my own doula and created this episode. We recorded this episode 2 months after my son was born and we are literally passing him back and forth during this interview so you might hear him in the background.
In this episode we talk about Kendra’s own pumping story for her two kids but also about the Doula profession itself.
What is a doula? What is the difference between a Post-Partum Doula and a Birth Doula? What do they do and how can they help you in your birthing and post-partum journey?
How do you find a doula? What should you look for in a doula? How can a doula help you with breastfeeding? All of these are questions we discuss in this episode.
Some of the products discussed in this episode:
One Step Sterilizer and Dryer Baby Brezza
Medela Microwave sanitizer bag
Silver nursing cups – nipple shields
How to find a doula or get in contact with Kendra:
https://www.facebook.com/happywavesdoula/
[email protected] or call 407-900-8941
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Visit my site and show notes at: https://www.busymompumping.com/
Please leave me a review at: http://getpodcast.reviews/id/1571193626
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*The contents of the Busy Mom Pumping Podcast, website, and social media account, such as text, graphics, images, and other material (“content”) are for informational and educational purposes only. The content is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician, midwife, pediatrician, or other qualified health care provider with any questions you may have regarding your pregnancy, nursing, or a medical condition you or your child might have.
The podcast host and their guests are sharing their own stories and experiences as information general in nature, and not specific to you, the reader or listener, and is not intended as individual medical advice. The content provided on the Busy Mom Pumping Podcast encourages you to make your own prenatal and postnatal care decisions based upon your research and in partnership with a qualified health care professional. If you think you may have a medical emergency, call your physician, go to the emergency department, or call 911 immediately. Reliance on any information provided in this podcast/website is solely at your own risk.
The host and their guests only state their own opinions and do not represent any organizations or institutions.
Next Episode

The Cow
Are you new here and wondering what this podcast is about? Want to know what inspired me to make this podcast? Then this is a great quick listen and introduction. Show Notes and Transcript: Welcome to the Busy Mom Pumping Podcast. My name is Lene and Let me start off by saying that if you are squeamish about anything including boobs, this podcast is not for you, because we will be talking a lot about them.
Before I start, let me ask you some questions: Are you a mom or about to be a mom, that has the wish to continue breastfeeding after the maternity leave is over but you don’t just quite know how because your google search only gave you a blanket approaches, that would be hard to tailor to your day to day?
Have you communicated to your boss yet that you will need to pump when you return to work? Oh he is male, this might be a bit awkward? Is the only available room a storage closet and your pumping breaks will be frequented by the school genitor who will fall over in shame when he finds you attached to that farming equipment, I mean pumps.
Oh you are saying that you already pumped with your first baby, and the spilled milk at TSA, the embarrassing encounters with the janitor who was not the janitor but a colleague sleeping in the pump room has left you to just forget about it.
Are you just hear to have a good laugh, to hear from your peers and get some inspiration. If you are saying a, b, c or all of the above then this is Podcast is for you!
As I have said, my name is Lene – and I was a Busy Mom Pumping with my daughter Lotti,
Who, at the beginning of my journey, was more like a soulless gremlin from another galaxy.
I did this craziness for a year and, yay me, I am about to get to do it all over again.
For me, my pumping journey was one that was very lonely
(cause really, ...... who wants to have an audience)
It was a journey filled with a bunch of questions....., challenges and amazingly,.... a community of friends helping me along the way.
Now, Let me quickly back up here;
I grew up in the southern parts of Germany in a very rural area and our school fields trips included visits to local farms
There we learned all about how chickens laid eggs and milk was ... lets say.. “harvested”.
(no there was no sweet famers wife gently massaging milk out of a cows udder)
... You know where I am going with this...
Let’s just say..... the first time I attached those pumps...... I was immediately catapulted back to those field trips – sharing a deep compassion and companionship with these peacefully mooing, ..... grass chewing mama cows. And still no gentle massaging hands in sight.
But Companionship.
That is what I was really missing.
And it was quite depressing that the only... beings I felt connected to in that moment were a bunch of mammals chewing away on their grass stems in some stall back in Germany.
So when someone suggested I join a Moms group for a hefty $350 for 6 weeks I was more than happy to hand over my wallet and join these wonderful strangers.
You know.... discuss things like broken vaginas, hurting c-sections, cracked nipples, or anything that would have been depicted in the Frida Mom’s Super bowl commercial that was rejected from the big line up. And you know what, the talking helped!
But when it came to the return to work and how to fit pumping into our busy lives, we were still a bit helpless. The internet did not give us much either because a lot of the suggestions were blanket approaches and did not address the vast variety of schedules/challenges that different professions bring with them.
This lack of information is what led me to start this podcast. I wanted to find different Moms in different versions of Busy sharing their stories, challenges and words of wisdom. And I hope that they become an inspiration to you. That their stories give you some comfort either while you are planning your return to your busy life or actively in it, pumping in some tucked away location.
Also, this is a judgement free zone:
This podcast is not here to say that breastfeeding is the best and only way to feed your child. That literally is everyone’s own prerogative. As a mom, your only job is to feed your baby, if that is breastmilk, formula or you skip straight to that hot coco with marshmallows, that is your choice.
Through my talks with different moms, I have learned that the choice to breastfeed is not that simple, there are so many different factors that play into this journey and often the biggest challenge is the return to work. I therefore want to acknowledge that we will not have all the answers, but I hope that we at least have some.
Lastly, my disclaimer:
As the title says, this podcast is produced by Busy Moms, and editing a podcast takes a lot of time (geez who would have thought) So while we try our...
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