
Discovering Fulfilment in the Extremes, with Katie Perez
06/23/22 • 32 min
This episode features special guest Katie Perez, LMFT.
Katie is a brave one! In this episode she shares her very authentic and vulnerable personal life experiences, including encountering burnout in her professional life, and tells us about finding fulfilment through an unlikely avenue - an extreme experience in the outdoors.
Katie discusses the pressure she felt of trying to check all of the boxes of having a career, a family, a marriage - the whole lot - and also the unexpected feeling of freedom she experienced after failure.
Katie moved to a small town in Washington. After struggling with alcoholism and the end of her marriage, she started learning about boats and how to repair them. This cultivated an interest in boating which began the start of a fisherman’s life on a crab boat. Yes, you read that right! Not only was this radically different from her previous career as a therapist, but it was also a big cultural shift for her as well. She describes the exhilarating experience she had in a world that was completely different from her own and the feeling of empowerment she gained from doing a difficult job in an extreme environment with some grumpy old ‘sea dogs’ who didn't know what to make of her!
In this episode, we discuss the importance of self-knowledge and how realizing what makes you function at your best can prevent burnout. Finally, we look at having the courage to follow a dream and to listen to what your experience is telling you.
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This episode features special guest Katie Perez, LMFT.
Katie is a brave one! In this episode she shares her very authentic and vulnerable personal life experiences, including encountering burnout in her professional life, and tells us about finding fulfilment through an unlikely avenue - an extreme experience in the outdoors.
Katie discusses the pressure she felt of trying to check all of the boxes of having a career, a family, a marriage - the whole lot - and also the unexpected feeling of freedom she experienced after failure.
Katie moved to a small town in Washington. After struggling with alcoholism and the end of her marriage, she started learning about boats and how to repair them. This cultivated an interest in boating which began the start of a fisherman’s life on a crab boat. Yes, you read that right! Not only was this radically different from her previous career as a therapist, but it was also a big cultural shift for her as well. She describes the exhilarating experience she had in a world that was completely different from her own and the feeling of empowerment she gained from doing a difficult job in an extreme environment with some grumpy old ‘sea dogs’ who didn't know what to make of her!
In this episode, we discuss the importance of self-knowledge and how realizing what makes you function at your best can prevent burnout. Finally, we look at having the courage to follow a dream and to listen to what your experience is telling you.
You can access this episode transcription here.
You can also:
Access our Free Burnout Cost Calculator
Join the Burnout Made Me Do It Community
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Burnout and Neurodivergent Minds, with Amber Price
In this episode, I am joined by special guest Amber Price, a Licensed Professional Counselor, Behavior Analyst, and Clini-Coach focused on helping adults struggling with ADHD. She has over 15 years of experience working with individuals struggling with mental health issues, autism, and ADHD. And personal and professional experience with numerous neurodivergent individuals.
As an adult with ADHD, Amber shares not only her clinical expertise but her personal experience with burnout as a neurodivergent person.
We define what neurodivergence is and how burnout can affect the mind differently than that of a neurotypical person. We explore how neurodivergent minds in the workplace may work in a different manner and complete tasks in a different manner than expected.
Amber recommends two great strategies that people can start to implement when they are trying to figure out their strategy in the workplace
Are there some jobs that are a better fit for neurodivergent minds? We discuss some of these types of jobs and what they may look like. Amber gives us some tips and clues on what to look for in the recruitment process to help you determine if a potential workplace would be a good fit.
We also discuss how important self-care is and the role it can play in burnout prevention.
Amber talks about her upcoming program “From Chaos to Clarity,” designed for adults with ADHD which will launch soon.
Finally, Amber shares with us what the craziest/silliest thing she’s ever done in response to burnout!
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Productive Laziness, with Cori McGinn
In this episode, we talk to special guest Cori McGinn, a program manager who experienced burnout after working a demanding job while simultaneously training for a half-Triathlon. As she pushed through this she experienced setbacks due to physical injuries as well. Cori was born with a condition that remained undetected throughout most of her life. The physical challenges she faced resulted in her needing surgery. After undergoing surgery, Cori still works with a physical therapist to correct her body's overcompensation.
In today’s episode we explore the relationship between physical and mental obstacles, and how when we overcompensate for difficulties, whether physical or mental stressors, we often end up doing things that may be more damaging.
Cori also shares her story of discovering Van life and her dream of building a van to escape burnout. After she visited a dealership with the sole purpose of only looking at vans, she ended up purchasing one.
With no prior experience in construction or electrical work, Cori embarked on this project which had its fair share of challenges. Through extensive internet research, she was able to learn how to build a custom van. However, she also discovered that this project which was supposed to be a remedy for burnout soon became another stressor.
Cori discusses her solutions for managing burnout, including being more conscious of her schedule and the time she spends with people. She also has developed the ability to communicate with her coach when she needs mental and physical rest and allows herself time for that. Last but not least, Cori talks about the importance of finding the correct work environment that supports well-being and you as an individual.
Cori’s ultimate dream of managing burnout is to have a van that offers her the freedom to throw her bike in and just go!
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