
Pants-driven development
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03/31/20 • 44 min
Jon and Justin, still making sense of life (and business) in a pandemic:
- Jon put on pants today.
- Justin is mad at Amazon.
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- Sofia Quintero
- Diogo
- Chris Willow
- Mason Hensley
- Borja Soler teami.io
- Ward from MemberSpace.com
- Eric Lima
- James Sowers (like Flowers) with UserInput.io
- Travis Fischer
- Matt Buckley, from NiceThings.io
- Russell Brown
- Evandro Sasse
- Pradyumna Shembekar (PD), pradyumna.dev
- Noah Prail, eventOneHQ.com
- Robert Simplicio, Simplicio.com
- Colin Gray alitu.com
- Josh Smith, hellosift.com
- Ivan Curkovic
- Brian Rhea (Pronounced “Ray”)
- Shane Smith, dev.transistor.fm
- Austin Loveless
- Simon Bennett, snapshooter.io
- Michael Sitver, letterjoy.co
- Paul Jarvis and Jack Ellis, usefathom.com
- Dan Buda danbuda.com
- Darby Frey
- Samori Augusto, thebicrowd.com
- Brad from Canada
- Sammy Schuckert
- Mike Walker
- Adam DuVander
- Dave Giunta (JOOnta)
- Kyle Fox GetRewardful.com
- Pascal from sharpen.page
- Rewardful.com
- Greg Park
- Mitchell Davis from RecruitKit.com.au
- Marcel Fahle, wearebold.af
- Bill Condo (@mavrck)
- Ward from MemberSpace.com
- Evandro Sasse
- Austin Loveless
- Michael Sitver
- Colin Gray
- Dave Giunta
Want to start a podcast on Transistor? Justin has a special coupon for you: get 15% off your first year of hosting: transistor.fm/justin
★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★Jon and Justin, still making sense of life (and business) in a pandemic:
- Jon put on pants today.
- Justin is mad at Amazon.
You can reply to this podcast here:
- Twitter: @buildyoursaas, @mijustin, @jonbuda
- Leave a comment on PodHunt; it's like Reddit, but for podcasts.
- Leave a comment on Breaker, the podcast app for iPhone.
- Interact on WhatPods.
- Email us: [email protected]
Thanks to our monthly supporters:
- Sofia Quintero
- Diogo
- Chris Willow
- Mason Hensley
- Borja Soler teami.io
- Ward from MemberSpace.com
- Eric Lima
- James Sowers (like Flowers) with UserInput.io
- Travis Fischer
- Matt Buckley, from NiceThings.io
- Russell Brown
- Evandro Sasse
- Pradyumna Shembekar (PD), pradyumna.dev
- Noah Prail, eventOneHQ.com
- Robert Simplicio, Simplicio.com
- Colin Gray alitu.com
- Josh Smith, hellosift.com
- Ivan Curkovic
- Brian Rhea (Pronounced “Ray”)
- Shane Smith, dev.transistor.fm
- Austin Loveless
- Simon Bennett, snapshooter.io
- Michael Sitver, letterjoy.co
- Paul Jarvis and Jack Ellis, usefathom.com
- Dan Buda danbuda.com
- Darby Frey
- Samori Augusto, thebicrowd.com
- Brad from Canada
- Sammy Schuckert
- Mike Walker
- Adam DuVander
- Dave Giunta (JOOnta)
- Kyle Fox GetRewardful.com
- Pascal from sharpen.page
- Rewardful.com
- Greg Park
- Mitchell Davis from RecruitKit.com.au
- Marcel Fahle, wearebold.af
- Bill Condo (@mavrck)
- Ward from MemberSpace.com
- Evandro Sasse
- Austin Loveless
- Michael Sitver
- Colin Gray
- Dave Giunta
Want to start a podcast on Transistor? Justin has a special coupon for you: get 15% off your first year of hosting: transistor.fm/justin
★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★Previous Episode

How are founders handling the pandemic?
Jon and Justin are hunkered down, and reeling from COVID-19:
- This is moving fast, so this podcast might already be out-of-date.
- Difference between the restrictions in Chicago and Vernon.
- "It's hard to focus on Transistor and write any code."
- "There are all these people out there suffering, it's hard to know what to do."
- "You see these effects rippling through society, and then rippling towards you."
- 7:50 – "It'd be nice to donate to everyone, but you just can't."
- 8:40 – It's a multidimensional difficulty for businesses.
- 9:15 – The tools for small shops are still not very good (especially the UX).
- Justin's tweet about Square
- 10:14 – DNS is still the most difficult thing.
- 11:00 – "These people are scrambling to save their businesses."
- Ivy and Dan Meehan’s podcast, Local
- When did you start taking this seriously? On the Not Overthinking podcast
- What makes a business recession-proof?
- Henry Mintzberg: The Three Pillars for rebalancing society
- Interview with Henry Mintzberg
- Are we going to band together, and fight this together?
- MegaMaker Slack
You can reply to this podcast here:
- Twitter: @buildyoursaas, @mijustin, @jonbuda
- Leave a comment on PodHunt; it's like Reddit, but for podcasts.
- Leave a comment on Breaker, the podcast app for iPhone.
- Interact on WhatPods.
- Email us: [email protected]
Thanks to our monthly supporters:
- Sofia Quintero
- Diogo
- Chris Willow
- Mason Hensley
- Borja Soler teami.io
- Ward from MemberSpace.com
- Eric Lima
- James Sowers (like Flowers) with UserInput.io
- Travis Fischer
- Matt Buckley, from NiceThings.io
- Russell Brown
- Evandro Sasse
- Pradyumna Shembekar (PD), pradyumna.dev
- Noah Prail, eventOneHQ.com
- Robert Simplicio, Simplicio.com
- Colin Gray alitu.com
- Josh Smith, hellosift.com
- Ivan Curkovic
- Brian Rhea (Pronounced “Ray”)
- Shane Smith, dev.transistor.fm
- Austin Loveless
- Simon Bennett, snapshooter.io
- Michael Sitver, letterjoy.co
- Paul Jarvis and Jack Ellis, usefathom.com
- Dan Buda danbuda.com
- Darby Frey
- Samori Augusto, thebicrowd.com
- Brad from Canada
- Sammy Schuckert
- Mike Walker
- Adam DuVander
- Dave Giunta (JOOnta)
- Kyle Fox GetRewardful.com
- Pascal from sharpen.page
- Rewardful.com
- Greg Park
- Mitchell Davis from RecruitKit.com.au
- Marcel Fahle, wearebold.af
- Bill Condo (@mavrck)
- Ward from MemberSpace.com
- Evandro Sasse
- Austin Loveless
- Michael Sitver
- Colin Gray
- Dave Giunta
Want to start a podcast on Transistor? Justin has a special coupon for you: get 15% off your first year of hosting: transistor.fm/justin
★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★Next Episode

Giuuuuuuuunta
Today, we are joined by a very special guest: Dave Giunta!
- What does Daft Punk look like without their helmets?
- HomeChef
- How has demand for meal kits and food delivery increased since coronavirus?
You can reply to this podcast here:
- Twitter: @buildyoursaas, @mijustin, @jonbuda, @dgiunta
- Leave a comment on PodHunt; it's like Reddit, but for podcasts.
- Leave a comment on Breaker, the podcast app for iPhone.
- Interact on WhatPods.
- Email us: [email protected]
Thanks to our monthly supporters:
- Sofia Quintero
- Diogo
- Chris Willow
- Mason Hensley
- Borja Soler teami.io
- Ward from MemberSpace.com
- Eric Lima
- James Sowers (like Flowers) with UserInput.io
- Travis Fischer
- Matt Buckley, from NiceThings.io
- Russell Brown
- Evandro Sasse
- Pradyumna Shembekar (PD), pradyumna.dev
- Noah Prail, eventOneHQ.com
- Robert Simplicio, Simplicio.com
- Colin Gray alitu.com
- Josh Smith, hellosift.com
- Ivan Curkovic
- Brian Rhea (Pronounced “Ray”)
- Shane Smith, dev.transistor.fm
- Austin Loveless
- Simon Bennett, snapshooter.io
- Michael Sitver, letterjoy.co
- Paul Jarvis and Jack Ellis, usefathom.com
- Dan Buda danbuda.com
- Darby Frey
- Samori Augusto, thebicrowd.com
- Brad from Canada
- Sammy Schuckert
- Mike Walker
- Adam DuVander
- Dave Giunta (JOOnta)
- Kyle Fox GetRewardful.com
- Pascal from sharpen.page
- Rewardful.com
- Greg Park
- Mitchell Davis from RecruitKit.com.au
- Marcel Fahle, wearebold.af
- Bill Condo (@mavrck)
- Ward from MemberSpace.com
- Evandro Sasse
- Austin Loveless
- Michael Sitver
- Colin Gray
- Dave Giunta
Want to start a podcast on Transistor? Justin has a special coupon for you: get 15% off your first year of hosting: transistor.fm/justin
★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★Build Your SaaS - Pants-driven development
Transcript
Hey, everyone. Welcome to build your SaaS. This is the behind the scenes story of building a web app in 2020. I'm John Buddha, a software engineer.
JasonAnd I'm Justin Jackson. I do product and marketing follow along as we build transistor dot FM and just try to try to keep going.
JonYep. And try to stop from going crazy. Yeah. Just getting out of bed, and I put o
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