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My Reflection on My EDD Classes this Fall
Build in Public Daily
11/30/23 • 8 min
As it is the end of the first semester of my doctoral program, I thought it'd be worthwhile to reflect on what I've learned from my class this time around. I have, taken the class EDUC 7610, it's called the Learning Community.
And we are talking about citizenship and civility.
While I get quite bored of discussions about politics, I was able to reinforce some of the beliefs that I have around certain things. I think my biggest takeaway from this class is being able to articulate some things that I'd had thoughts about, but hadn't been able to articulate previous to taking this class.
And, there's value in that.
[00:00:58] Defining Our Own Values
Number one, I really doubled down on my belief that we each have to define our own values, and the only way that we are going to have any success in our own personal life is if we really do define our own values and then stick to them.
I was coaching a school principal outside of class and this idea of her acting in alignment with her values came up and what made that conversation so powerful is that there was a situation where something happened and she didn't say anything but in her heart she knew that that thing that she didn't comment on was really important to her.
But she didn't comment on it. She was not acting in alignment with her values.
And when I suggested to her that she should act in alignment with her values, then she suddenly saw how important that was to her personally and what that meant.
This really helped her see that it's not about the values of the organization that you're working for, or about the values of the society that you live in, but it's about you acting in alignment with your own values.
When I mention this, people say, "Well, what if your values don't line up with my values?" Well, that happens. The real issue is can you respect and love someone enough to allow them to act in alignment with their values, even if those disagree with you? Now, in order for us to have a society that is civil and worthwhile, there are certain values that we need to have across the board like, it's not okay to kill people. We need to respect others. And if somebody doesn't have those values, then that can certainly make relationships with that person difficult. That can make interactions with them difficult.
But part of this is also that I truly believe that if left to their own devices, we all have goodness within us that helps us decide to have positive pro social values.
Personally, I call this the Light of Christ.
There are aberrations and people who are sociopaths who don't have those values, and there always will be. That's why we have laws as a society to make sure that people are acting in appropriate ways.
And this is a personal reflection for me. When you act in alignment with your values, then your story doesn't change. And this is something that I personally have struggled with, that my actions and what I do would change, and my teachers and people that I've led would say, Why is Jethro making this decision?
He made this totally opposite decision just a couple days ago. Why is he now making this other weird decision? And what I've personally realized through the discussions we've had in this class is that when I'm saying something to be heard or to be seen as special or doing something for attention, then my performance is going to be different.
When I act in alignment with my values, then I'm consistent with those values. Anytime I'm not acting in alignment with my values, I'm not consistent in how I behave. And that was a really powerful self awareness piece for me.
There were a couple instances this semester where People that I coach would say things like, "Yes, Jethro, I've heard you say that before," or "Yes, Jethro has told me this before." And what's reaffirming to me is that those were phrases that are deeply aligned with my values, and I think that that was a really powerful experience for me personally.
[00:05:26] See Others
The next big point that I want to talk about is that all the suggestions for civility in our conversations ultimately came down to one simple thing. That is to really see other people and see their value as human beings. The way I personally describe this is that I see them as children of God who have great potential.
And that's what works for me.
But regardless of whether or not you agree with that particular approach, really seeing people makes a huge difference.
That was a really big awakening for me.
We talked about all these different ideas and ways of doing things, and ultimately what it always boiled down to was just see the other person and make sure they know that you see them, as a human being. That was really powerful for me.
[00:06:17] Education is the responsibility of parents
And then finally...
Imposter Impostures
Build in Public Daily
02/27/24 • 3 min
Adam W. Barney, Energy Coach, is back after a long break and he talks about his experience with finishing up the presale for the upcoming fundraiser event, Make Your Own Glass Half Full. He also shares some tips on how to get back into the swing of things after kids have been on break for a week. This recording was made during a morning walk with his two dogs, Welly and Winter, on a beautiful late-February day that feels like spring. You might hear a slight jangle of dog tags in the background.
Two-Thirds Vote
Build in Public Daily
05/03/23 • 5 min
[00:00:00] Dr. Stacey Gonzales: There's a saying in Congress about two thirds vote. It's not even a saying. It's a rule, really. And in the growth path, we have three of us, and so there's three co-founders of the Growth Path education, myself, Renee, and John. And most of the time, all three of us. Are in agreement as we are building this company together.
And so today we were discussing our assessment activity that we do with superintendents and their teams, and we were having a pretty intense discussion around the terms. and payment and money around that part of the business. And we were on a conference call and I could tell that two of us were very aligned.
And so for about 15 minutes we went on and on around how we charge, why we charge, what we charge, the amount of people at the table. how school districts are funded and on and on and on. And the thing that became clear at one point is that me and one of my team members were going back and forth for about 15 minutes, and one person was quiet.
And so when I asked, I said, so what do you think? , that team member said, I'm not comfortable with this, but if this is the direction that you two want and you two have more experience than I do and this, and I can, I can go with it, but I, I'm not comfortable with it and I don't like this part and I don't like that part.
And, and the other person that I was in agreement with said, okay, well yeah, I get that, but okay, we're going to keep moving. and I knew that this was not the place and space for us to finish that conversation. And so delicately, I said, we're not in a rush and we're gonna pause. If one of us is not uncomfortable, we owe it to ourselves and to each other.
to con come back and to continue this discussion at a later time because we didn't need to have it settled. It was a conversation through a, um, about a potential client that hadn't even committed yet. Right. We were, we were planning conversations for some client meetings that we have this week, and so after I said that, after I said, you know, I don't feel this is.
Something that we should decide right here and now, and I don't think this is a conversation that we're ready for that quote, two-thirds vote, and however I said it in that moment was directly from my heart because I know that in order to really build something that lives beyond, me. That's legacy. That changes the world, that supports our nation's highest leaders and the challenges they face that we must, as the core team, as the team leading the work, must also be on our own growth path together.
And so what that means and what that looks like is taking time to sit with discomfort and uncertainty. . And then when you're consensus building on a team, you're not looking for checking every single box, but you want more boxes checked than not in alignment. Consensus is about alignment. Consensus is about understanding.
Consensus building is about conversation and collaboration. And so as I'm building these companies, , these critical conversations must be tended to and nurtured just like we do with our clients, our students, our family, those we love and care about. And so that is how I'm building in public today.
Practice
Build in Public Daily
04/28/23 • 10 min
[00:00:00] Dr. Stacey Gonzales: One of the things that I hope for for this building public podcast is that.
It is not about a cognitive understanding. It is about an experience that I'm creating in this space first for myself second. for those who hear it. And then third, for myself when I hear it again later, from a different perspective at a different point in time.
And my hope is through opening myself up and allowing. The insights, understandings, and moments to flow through me as I let them go, as I embrace the courage it takes for me to share openly and publicly in this space.
that this space becomes a catalyst.
A catalyst where the changes that I am experiencing, the transformation that I am sharing publicly while I'm in it in the moment.
Sparks in others. You see, I do not have the answers for your life.
I only know that the answers for mine are inside of me
in order for me to access those answers. What I am learning is to be still is to settle the noise.
I believe elite performers have a unique ability to separate the noise and distractions. From the vision and mission that they have.
And in those moments, those quick moments of decisiveness where they again pull themselves back to the focus. Distraction comes pull themself back, distraction comes, pull themself back. Distraction comes pull themself back. Their ability
to remain focused when distraction comes seems like one of the keys to the success and impact. that those who we might consider high performers.
Just before this recording, I was meditating and what came to me was that. . The reason why people say they can't meditate or doesn't work for them, they don't like to meditate, is perhaps
because meditation is very much like opening the hood of our vehicle
and when we. , open that hood or open our closet door. Sometimes we don't like what we've seen
many times. I think about my closet, and I have places in my closet for everything where my shoes go. Wear shirts are hung. Winter shirts, summer shirts. Spaces and places for everything in the closet,
and I tend to keep my closet pretty tidy, but little by little if on the daily I do not specifically put something back or I just throw a sweatshirt in, or depending on when the dirty clothes wash or all the things. That happen because our clothes are a daily part of our lives, it can get a little disorganized, and part of it is seasons change and change in clothes, and part of it is just pure laziness and inattention to detail
and at times,
it can seem like our mind might be like our closet,
and for many of us, when we get still and get quiet and start to look around and begin to notice, all that is behind the door.
It can be very overwhelming.
It can be very distracting, making it very hard for us to sit and be to just notice the thoughts as they. Plow through or pop through or come and go.
But the first step, the first step in meditation is to sit and to allow,
allow, allow it to be whatever it will be. Kind, gentle, gracious with ourselves. Cuz I talk to so many people every day and connect with many people.
I often hear the way they describe circumstances or things in their lives. One thing I notice is that many times people are really hard on themselves. I know I was, and there are moments when I am still and what has really been coming forward for me as I am stretching myself and growing. in these businesses and in my building public journey is gentleness, kindness, meekness, humility towards myself, giving myself the time and the space and the grace that I would hope.
Others would extend to me that I would extend to others. Like a child,
A child learning to walk. You wouldn't scold the child for stumbling or misstepping. Certainly not. You support the child and reach your hand out and say, let's try again. We're just practicing. This is practice. It's all practice. . So if you are joining me on this Build and Public podcast for the first time, welcome.
Thank you for being here. Thank you for taking the time that you've listened and gotten to this point.
This is a journey, not a one time event. It's an experience that will continue to unfold and evolve. . So I invite you to join me on my building public journey for Stacy Gonzalez. I'm looking forward to it.
Build Along the Way
Build in Public Daily
04/28/23 • 5 min
[00:00:00] Dr. Stacey Gonzales: Welcome to today's Build and Public podcast. You're joining me for the first time. I'd like to welcome you. This podcast is a place where we experiment, where we try new things, where we see who we are in between the spaces and so. , I invite you to enter into this space on this podcast tonight. It's called Build in Public because I'm literally feeling like I'm building my myself publicly through sharing and recording.
Daily, and it's interesting because when I talked to my podcast producer about this show and what it meant to build publicly, he mentioned that it takes a lot of courage and. I didn't really feel that way when I said yes, I want to build a daily podcast. I just knew that I had something inside of me that I needed to share or wanted to share in a way that would be authentic and relatable.
I didn't know it would challenge me to grow in such profound ways, because showing up for yourself consistently every day, trying to have something new or have a reflection. that is insightful, that other people might wanna listen to instead of asking myself the question as I sit here in my, in my room alone, recording a podcast to myself of what do I need to remember today?
And so I invite you. to ask yourself that question because what I am learning for myself is that what I need is a space and a place where I can be completely safe in my bedroom by myself recording this podcast.
And I can have a place and a space where my voice is heard and will be potentially heard again by someone else,
and learning to use my voice has been a really huge learning growth for me. . Hmm. Learning to use my voice, learning to trust my voice,
learning to embrace my voice, all of it from that part of my heart and soul that is the most genuine
inviting you to yours. that space and place inside of you, where you are just you. And so I realize tonight's podcast was a bit of a departure.
I brought a different perspective, a different focus to try something in a way that might work for me better. I don't know. But this podcast, this space, this moment is about creating and learning to create. That is what I am building. Whether I'm talking about building a business or I'm talking about building myself, I'm building, and so
I'm letting go and I'm inviting you to bring your journey, your growth next to mine, and together, together we'll learn. A thing or two along the way. I'm Stacy Gonzalez. This is my Build in Public podcast. Thank you.
Building Together
Build in Public Daily
04/26/23 • 3 min
[00:00:00] Dr. Stacey Gonzales: Welcome to today's Build in Public podcast. I am Stacy Gonzalez, the hostess of this amazing podcast, and I'm doing something a little differently today because I'm trying to also cook dinner at the end of a very long day. And what I'm finding for myself is that when I create content like this podcast, I do a little Facebook Live.
When I go for a walk with the dog in the morning, it feels great to be doing an activity that brings me grounding, that brings me joy. And so cooking dinner, or me and my husband didn't always bring me joy. Actually. It felt icky. I didn't like to cook dinner. I did not like to prepare meals. I felt like a task and a chore and really exhausting hard work, especially after a long day.
And so part of my decision to leave education and become an entrepreneur was so that I could have multi aspects to my life and all of those aspects. Could work together in a harmonious way. And I feel like the work I'm doing now and the way I'm approaching the work is feeling like it's in better harmony as I build out my ideal day, my ideal morning.
And so that's really to me what my growth path and my journey and. , this sole growth journey that I've been on, knowing that growth doesn't come in learning modules like we think in education, but they come when individuals make a commitment to each other, but more importantly to themselves. And I couldn't be more proud of who I am becoming.
On my entrepreneur journey and finding ways to balance my life better that works for me, such as recording a podcast while cooking, starting to to make dinner. And so with that, today's podcast is gonna be short. In order to build in public the life that is of your dreams than that you love, um, you have to do it differently.
And so I think my. building public journey is about me doing things differently and I'm appreciating the space to do that, to try things, to build my confidence and competence in public ways that feel open and safe, like this building public podcast. So if, if, if you are new, if you are just joining, welcome
My name is Stacy Gonzalez and. I just appreciate you being on this journey with me as I am becoming this calm, confident creator who is doing some pretty amazing things and, and at the end of the day, am really thankful for a space to, to share those things and keep a record. Um, because at the end of the day, that is what we have, right?
Um, so thank you for joining me on this journey and, um, I hope, I hope you will tune in as we continue to build together.
Learning today is a gift
Build in Public Daily
04/26/23 • 4 min
[00:00:00] Dr. Stacey Gonzales: Welcome to today's Build and Public podcast. If you are joining for the first time, I just wanna welcome you. I'm Stacy Gonzalez and I'm building two companies, one for women and another for educators. . And really at the end of the day, they're both focused on the same thing, which is learning and growing.
And that's the reason why I do this daily Build and public podcast is because every day we have an opportunity to learn something new. And every day we have an opportunity to take what we learn and integrate it into our lives in tangible ways, in practical ways. And so that's really what this podcast.
Is becoming, it is my learning journey, my documentation of being a founder and what it feels like to choose yourself, to choose business that serves you. First versus you trying to fit your life into your business. And so I'm really figuring out how to have my business fit my life, and it's been a really amazing and beautiful thing.
And so today, uh, I had the opportunity to, uh, have a meeting and I turned off. My email off my phone and I really stayed offline, um, over the weekend. And what happened is some of my team members actually sent some emails for today's meeting and I didn't look at my email. I, I wanted to do some meditation and I wanted to take my time this morning.
To be fully present in the moment, in the best way I know how, and so for me, that requires time and energy. I did a meditation. I went for a walk. I cleaned my house. I did some breath work. I took a cold shower, and so I put all my practices in place and I just gave myself space to prepare for this important business meeting that I had today.
And even despite all that preparation and even despite having the agenda ready and having multiple emails going, I was nervous and I was scared and I didn't know if I would successfully be able to navigate the meeting cuz it's new. And my team members and I were learning together. We're learning each other, we're learning about each other, we're learning to trust each other and all that to say it was an amazing meaning.
And it's so rewarding and and such a privilege to be able to see myself take these steps of courage and nobody knows. I feel it on the inside. Nobody knows what it's really like. I know what it's like. Take these steps of courage and trusting myself that I can. Be this person that I believe I am this business owner who is building amazing solutions that help people's lives change.
Providing space for people to be for love and following our hearts to grow and flourish. Cause that's, that's really what I'm doing. It's no different from when I was a teacher. Frankly, bringing people together around a shared vision. It's Cotter's work, right? If you know of John Cotter's work, the Eight Steps to Transformative Change as you get people invested in the Y and you build a guiding coalition.
Those are steps one and two, and we've got a strong why and we're building a guiding coalition, and people continually step up, come to the table. And make themselves available to support the vision, and it's so incredible and so humbling at the same time. So if you are on any sort of trust journey to yourself, if you are looking to breakthrough, tap into that little place.
Of courage within you overcome that little space of fear. If I can do it , if I can do it after 20 years in a completely different industry, not having any clue what I'm doing, you can do it too. Certainly. Certainly. I'm Stacy Gonzalez. Thank you for joining me on my building public learning journey.
Inside Work
Build in Public Daily
04/24/23 • 7 min
[00:00:00] Dr. Stacey Gonzales: Welcome to the Build in Public Podcast. I'm Stacy Gonzalez and I am thrilled that you have decided to join me on this founder's journey of building a business in public. And today's podcast, I'm gonna start with a little admission. I have a goal that at the end of every day, I record a podcast episode to update on the.
The bad, the ugly of this founder's journey and yesterday was Thursday and I took the day off by and large and really just had nothing much on my schedule. Had a full open day and frankly did not do much. Um, had. Happened to have like a meeting or two. But, um, I took a nap and I watched a Netflix show and I played with my puppy and it was, it was thundering and raining out.
We had a lot of lightning storms and I like sat on the couch and watched the lightning and the rain and enjoyed it and appreciated it. And so yesterday I, at the end of the. Must have really taken my mind off because I forgot to record my Build in Public podcast . And so here is today's little late, but nonetheless podcast update.
And the thing that I want to share and talk about today is the idea of hustle. And women in particular who are middle-aged, such as myself, I'm 48 years old, who are building their second careers in ways that feel honest, true, aligned, and more soulful for them. And I meet with women regularly who are leaving their career.
um, the first careers similar to what I did and are navigating the complexities of building a business with the experiences and expertise that they have and doing it in a way that is digital, um, and allows them to build from a bootstrapped space. Um, because for many of us who have sacrificed for our children, Sacrificed for, um, our first careers and raising a family and being wives and, um, all the other things that come with that.
We are desiring to do things differently, and that means giving ourselves more space to create and be creative. Um, you know, not having to have all the answers, but putting plans in place and trusting that when. show up when we, um, operate from a place that is in alignment with who we are and the desires of our heart.
Opportunities will open up and unfold. And so as we think about this startup culture, hustle culture, uh, for many, we did that our first careers, and I'm not entru. in doing that again, this time around as I build this second, second foray, second chapter. And what's interesting is I find that I have a co-founder, Renee, um, she's on the, the last episode, if you wanna go back and hear that.
But we have different ways of working. Obviously no two people work exactly the same and. When I start to feel stressed about all the things that we could be doing, should be doing, um, you know, outside of the goals that we have in place, um, and all the details around the work. And she'll say something like, I'm gonna go take the dog for a walk and I'm gonna da, da, da.
and I know that what I'm feeling in that moment might be stressed about something and I'm thinking, well, I'd like to go take my dog for a walk right now. And the reality is, I can, I could stop. I could go take the dog for a walk. And so what I'm noticing is the mindset shifts and I'm giving myself time and space to understand.
Past mindset patterns that are limiting beliefs. And as a founder, in order to build a successful, uh, business, we must be really clear and open to the things that are, are limiting us. Because if they're limiting us, they're gonna limit the pro the progress. They're gonna limit our businesses. They're gonna limit the potential for other people.
when they engage with us. And so I take that really seriously and I spend a lot of time thinking about how, and, and not only thinking, but sensing my way through, um, and processing through from also a heart led space. How do I stay more open? How can I find the lifestyle and life that serves me first? So that I can serve others more openly, willingly, and with greater impact.
And that's a journey. And really for me, that is what I am finding to be the most challenging part of this founder's journey. It requires a different type of courage. Courage that comes from a deep place within. that feels very charged when um, it's time to take a step in faith, step into trying something new and be being someone new.
And really, cuz that's what this is about. It's about being who I believe I am in the, in the best way every day, kind of stepping into that, a new every day. And it's a different way of process. In a different way of being every day. And so as I continue to get clarity on that, um, sometimes I know I need to just give myself a break.
And that was yesterday. The work is hard. The work for me is mostly inner work. Um, and, and as I'm working through that inner work at times, my, I have to remember, I need to give myself grace, kindness, and time for my mind, my body. my emot...
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Build in Public Daily
04/18/23 • 5 min
Welcome to today's Build and Public podcast. I'm Stacy Gonzalez, founder of Soul Growth, A community for heart led soulful women in business who want to do business differently by bringing all of them to work with themselves every day. And so as I'm building this company, my co-founder and I today on Mondays, we work.
Uh, we live close enough and so she comes over to my, uh, house and we were working in the office today and I'm building out some technical, uh, requirements for the, uh, website and some Zoom live workshops that we're gonna be hosting to really bring women together. Um, we're calling it soul Growth. And as I'm trying to get this technology to work, I wanted to create a way for women to register and to have a model where they could pay what they wanted for the, um, opportunity to connect.
But I did want to offer some skin in the game for a couple reasons. Number one, the tech stack that we're paying. if minimally, um, we just get enough donations to help us pay for that, that would be great. As broke bootstrapping founders and Renee was working on some email copy for, um, some email campaigns that we're working on while she was writing.
I was working on these technical aspects and it was really getting quite frustrating at some points. , I could not create this series. The payment portal wasn't working. The donations weren't allowing, um, the donations to come up on the site. And all in all, um, it just was not functioning the way I had hoped it would, would function.
And so after like the second or third time, Renee looked at me and she said, why don't you just go for a walk? And I thought That's a great. . So I took the dog out for a little walk and just re-centered myself. And that is the thing about this soul growth journey. And what is, is the great thing about having a, a partner and also the difficult thing.
You, you see yourself, right? You see the frustration that you're facing and the other person, the other person hears it and, you know, working closely together on something. Has nothing yet, um, per se. And, and really trying to build something up digitally is quite the challenge. Uh, but what was interesting is that, uh, we got through that, um, she left probably about, you know, two o'clock today and then all of a sudden inspiration came and I was able to pull some things together, um, relative to a website that we've been working on really quickly and easily, and.
things ki the, the creative pieces, the Canva pieces, which usually I get a little, uh, str. I struggle with that. At times, the design aspects kind of just started to flow, and so today was a really productive day. Um, I've been, I've been really kind of playing around with my morning time, giving myself permission to.
really wake up and, and have kind of the practices I want without pressure in my day. And so that's been, um, amazing as well. This morning I just felt like I woke up at four before my alarm even went off, which is always my goal. The hope is that I, that I wake up by four. Um, I had a, I had a phone conversation with a woman that was gonna help do some volun volunteer.
Bros. We just had a great soulful conversation about personal and professional and, and mixing the two of those and what that means and looks like for us. And so, all in all, great day. I'm really tired and, um, gonna be going to bed early tonight, but really glad that, uh, things are starting to come together and excited about the Soul Girl Sundays as we launch.
If you're new to this podcast, I just wanna thank you for. and listening to my journey, I'm still working through what this podcast actually is, is looking and feeling like. Um, it's really still my experimental sandbox, my reflection place at the end of every day. And, uh, allowing me to have the space to learn, grow, reflect, and um, really be proud of the progress.
Um, and, and. Uh, that I'm on. Thanks.
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Build in Public Daily
04/12/23 • 7 min
[00:00:00] Dr. Stacey Gonzales: Welcome to the Soul Growth Build and Public Podcast. Thank you for joining us today. I'm Stacy Gonzalez, one of the co-founders of our Build Public podcast. And for the first time tonight, I'm here with my co-founder, Renee Devore. Say hello, Renee. Hello everyone. So tonight we are going to talk about the highs and the lows of being founders of a startup.
And I'm gonna share my high of today and my low. And then I'm gonna pass this over to Renee for her to share what was her high and her low. And I think for me, the high today was, um, for the past two days, Renee has been coming to my home work. We live very close in proximity to each other. And before I even like totally get into that, let me back up for a second.
And thank you and welcome you to the podcast. I was so excited about the day that I forgot to welcome my listeners. So thank you for being here today. But back to what I was sharing, Renee and I live very close to each other, and the best part of that is we get to work together in person. And while that is lovely and amazing, sometimes it's also difficult and causes me to be face-to-face with some of the difficulties of the work that we are standing up right now.
And so today we were working on building out some backwards. Some curriculum, uh, for some work that we're doing. And it just was really challenging. And while Renee and I were working, I could feel on the inside how I was starting to get a little stressed out about it. And I wanted to be very open. I was hoping that I could listen to what she was having to say.
Kind of take her ideas, put 'em into structure, help us. To an end outcome and through the course of trying to figure out how to engage with one another around this work, we just had this moment where, what did you say to me when I said, I'm done now. What did I say? How did that happen? You
[00:02:18] Renee: just said, I'm done.
And I was like, well, that didn't
[00:02:20] Dr. Stacey Gonzales: feel good. Yeah. I said, I'm done. And she said, well, that didn't feel good. And then what happened? Do you remember?
[00:02:30] Renee: No. And then you kind of went on and just like we were trying to navigate each other where we were in that particular timeframe. Um, and then you got emotional.
[00:02:40] Dr. Stacey Gonzales: I did get emotional. It was a really hard conversation and I think the hardest part was I was feeling very, we're gonna get off up here. I was feeling super, like I was trying so hard to be flexible and I. Really wanting to allow your creativity to shine through. I wanted to be really open and I wanted to be really, um, like available to what your thoughts were.
And so I was trying really hard to like push aside what I was thinking and hone into what you were thinking. And, and then it just, I, I think I got overwhelmed at some point,
[00:03:28] Renee: but I also. Because you were not coming as you are. Like you were, you were showing up differently in order to serve me. Mm. Which I think that there's benefits to that, but I think it was almost like over overkill to the point where it, it confused things you were working like over time.
Yeah. To try and navigate the project that we were working on and also, uh, you know, connect to whatever my needs were, how I operated and. I think that that's part of how the, the overwhelm piece of this all came
[00:04:03] Dr. Stacey Gonzales: to be. Yeah. And so what I realized when we kind of had this moment where Renee was like, yeah, that didn't feel great the way you just said that.
Like, I, cuz I was like, I'm done now and
[00:04:20] Renee: we can laugh at it now. We can. We weren't laughing at it. We weren't laughing five hours ago.
[00:04:25] Dr. Stacey Gonzales: Um, I think what it really made me realize was that I, I can have a voice in the process as well, and I can, um, also set boundaries. Around Here's how I'm thinking something should look or feel.
Um, and I think I just wasn't doing that today. Mm-hmm. greatly. Mm-hmm. .
[00:04:51] Renee: Well, I think the, the other thing that also, uh, showed up today was this fear that you, you, yeah. Abandonment. Fear. Yeah. The fear that you carry forward into this relationship of thinking that it could end at any time, and then if you take the wrong step or do the wrong thing or say the wrong thing.
I'm gonna leave this partnership and I think that that was, um, a really important breakthrough for both of us today. For me to hear that and then you giving me examples of like, when I say in 10 years I wanna be retired and living in Mexico, . You thinking that that means I'm just, you're breaking up with me today.
Break up with you 10. From now today. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and that just isn't the case. I think we both have been through, like me getting into my first, uh, you know, engagement at the age of ...
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