Episode 8: Interview with CDR Jonathan Shumate and MAJ Vo-Laria Brooks about CLAMO, DSCA, and COVID-19 Response

On today’s podcast we have an interview with CDR Jonathan Shumate and MAJ Vo-Laria Brooks from the US Army JAG Corps’ Center for Law and Military Operations (also known as “CLAMO”), a Directorate of the The Judge Advocate General’s Legal Center in Charlottesville, VA. CDR Shumate serves as the Coast Guard Advanced Operational Law Studies Fellow. MAJ Brooks serves as the Director of Domestic Operations and National Guard Bureau (NGB) Liaison where she is responsible for teaching Defense Support of Civil Authorities (DSCA) at TJAGLCS, as well as providing support for the DSCA mission for the 54 States and Territories of the National Guard.
MAJ Wellemeyer, CDR Shumate, and MAJ Brooks discuss CLAMO’s role and function, the DSCA process, and some of the legal issues the Army faces in responding to the COVID-19 pandemic.
Below is a timeline of some of the subject-areas discussed during the episode:
00:00 Episode Introduction
01:23 CLAMO’s Role and Function
03:21 What is DSCA?
04:30 DSCA Process (Tiered Approach)
11:01 Risk to commanders of not following DSCA process
13:38 Dual-Status Commander
17:15 Dual-Status Commanders on order during COVID-19 pandemic
17:57 The concept of a “Mega” Dual-Status Commander
19:26 Current utilization of the National Guard
22:56 Comparing the response to the COVID-19 pandemic to that of previous humanitarian crises
24:37 End of Episode
If you’re interested in learning more about some of the topics covered during this episode, we recommend the following additional reading and resources:
“The Military and the Pandemic: An Explainer of the National Guard’s Role in the COVID-19 Response” by Dennis Bittle
DSCA: Interagency Partner Guide for Disasters and Emergencies, July 2015
Public Documents Published by the Center for Law and Military Operations
CLAMO Resources (CAC Only)
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