
Breaking down the 2022 market with Barry Habib
03/04/22 • 40 min
Relive Mortgage Champions Founder & CEO, Dale Vermillion, and MBS Highway Founder & CEO, Barry Habib's freewheeling conversation on the 2022 mortgage and real estate markets.
From breaking down the major stories from 2021, to forecasting the trends that will define the 2022 market, Dale and Barry share their personal insights into the challenges—and opportunities—that will make and break producers over the coming year
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Relive Mortgage Champions Founder & CEO, Dale Vermillion, and MBS Highway Founder & CEO, Barry Habib's freewheeling conversation on the 2022 mortgage and real estate markets.
From breaking down the major stories from 2021, to forecasting the trends that will define the 2022 market, Dale and Barry share their personal insights into the challenges—and opportunities—that will make and break producers over the coming year
Connect with Barry Habib
Connect with Barry on LinkedIn
Become a Certified Mortgage Advisor
Connect with Dale Vermillion
https://linktr.ee/dalevermillion
Find this conversation valuable?
Consider leaving a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts. Every review helps us reach more professionals like you.
Podchaser Show ID: 320ho9eLC2D5Qe1La0dG
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HousingWire's 2022 Economic Forecast with Logan Mohtashami
A highly-regarded financial analyst, influencer, and the Lead Analyst for HousingWire, Logan Mohtashami is a recurring guest on Bloomberg Financial and has spoken at numerous economic conferences, include Americatlyst and the California Association Of Realtors.
Logan’s astute analysis of economic data and years of direct lending experience allows him to present a unique, informed, and unbiased perspective on the financial markets.
Perhaps best known for his prescient forecasts on the state of the housing market and mortgage rates, Logan's insights are invaluable as the market continues to experience record volatility headed into 2022 and beyond.
In this Episode
Dale and Logan discuss...
- Logan's start in finance and real estate, background in mortgage origination, and the story behind his rise to become HousingWire's Lead Analyst
- Why the bond market and, specifically, the 10-year Treasury yield are Logan's preferred tools for forecasting mortgage rates
- Why Logan believes mortgage rates could end the 2022 below 3%, and what to expect for the rate range throughout the year
- Why Logan and Dale agree that while tempered by higher rates, buyer demand will not crash and home values will continue to hold across the nation
- Why the American home buyer is stronger today than ever before and what that means for mortgage demand in 2022 and beyond
Soundbites
“Two things I've always said: economics, if it's done right, should be very boring and you always want to be the detective not the troll. ” — Logan Mohtashami
“The consumer is in really good shape. We see it in FICO scores, cashflows, and every single data line. The American homeowner has never looked better on paper.” — Logan Mohtashami
“if you look at economic data currently, we've had the hottest economic growth in decades. We've had the hottest inflationary data in decades. If we were just basing off of that, mortgage rates would be 6.5-7%. Today, right now, the tenure yield would be over 5%, actually over 5.25%. That's not happening. We are still under 2% on the 10 year yield because it respects the downtrend in the bond yield.” — Logan Mohtashami
Connect with Logan Mohtashami
Connect with Logan on Linkedin
Read Logan's work on HousingWire.com
Subscribe to HousingWire Plus (HW+)
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Connect with Dale Vermillion
https://linktr.ee/dalevermillion
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Relive Season 1 of Batting 1,000
If you missed some of the season—don’t worry! We’ll be sharing highlights from these conversations and others during our upcoming Season 1 Replay, where we’ll listen to and dissect our favorite moments from all of Season 1, before we enjoy a brief off-season ahead of Season 2. Speaking of which, we need your help to build our line-up.
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The shakeout for market share with Will Adams
Enjoy a sneak peek of Dale's soon-to-be released conversation with Will Adams, SVP, Head of Sales at LendingTree.
Mentioned in this episode:
Relive Season 1 of Batting 1,000
If you missed some of the season—don’t worry! We’ll be sharing highlights from these conversations and others during our upcoming Season 1 Replay, where we’ll listen to and dissect our favorite moments from all of Season 1, before we enjoy a brief off-season ahead of Season 2. Speaking of which, we need your help to build our line-up.
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