
Brave New Work 73. Embracing Discomfort with Lisa Gill
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05/25/21 • 48 min
There are elephants in the room, and then there are "Moose Heads on the Table." This book, by Lisa Gill and Karen Tenelius, describes the concept as workplace taboos that are simultaneously ingrained and incredibly toxic for getting things done.
In this episode of Brave New Work, Aaron Dignan and Rodney Evans talk to Lisa about how to embrace this discomfort at work, and what self-managing organizations can do to empower their employees to speak up when things aren't working.
Get Lisa's book, Moose Heads On The Table.
Learn more about Lisa on her website, LinkedIn, or by listening to her podcast, Leadermorphosis.
Mentioned references:
- "Basecamp episode": BNW Ep. 71
- "fuddy duddy"
- Reinventing Organizations: BNW Ep. 18 with Frederic Laloux
- "ASCATS": BNW Ep. 65 with Alastair Steward
- The Ready's Tension and Practice Cards
- Jorge Silva, from 10Pines
- Frederic Laloux's "Insights for the Journey" videos
- Liberating Structures: BNW Ep. 49 with Keith McCandless
- Reinventing Work's global community
Our book is available now at bravenewwork.com
We want to hear from you. Send your thoughts and feedback to [email protected]
Looking for some help with your own transformation? Visit theready.com
There are elephants in the room, and then there are "Moose Heads on the Table." This book, by Lisa Gill and Karen Tenelius, describes the concept as workplace taboos that are simultaneously ingrained and incredibly toxic for getting things done.
In this episode of Brave New Work, Aaron Dignan and Rodney Evans talk to Lisa about how to embrace this discomfort at work, and what self-managing organizations can do to empower their employees to speak up when things aren't working.
Get Lisa's book, Moose Heads On The Table.
Learn more about Lisa on her website, LinkedIn, or by listening to her podcast, Leadermorphosis.
Mentioned references:
- "Basecamp episode": BNW Ep. 71
- "fuddy duddy"
- Reinventing Organizations: BNW Ep. 18 with Frederic Laloux
- "ASCATS": BNW Ep. 65 with Alastair Steward
- The Ready's Tension and Practice Cards
- Jorge Silva, from 10Pines
- Frederic Laloux's "Insights for the Journey" videos
- Liberating Structures: BNW Ep. 49 with Keith McCandless
- Reinventing Work's global community
Our book is available now at bravenewwork.com
We want to hear from you. Send your thoughts and feedback to [email protected]
Looking for some help with your own transformation? Visit theready.com
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Brave New Work 72. Legalese in the Future of Work with Jason Wiener
It's not a question, but a fact: the conventional legal doctrine governing the 21st century workplace is woefully far behind.
In this episode of Brave New Work, Aaron Dignan and Rodney Evans talk to attorney Jason Wiener about the incredible disconnect between current legal norms and modern business, and how he works to ensure equitable business ownership to the forefront of the conversation.
Learn more about Jason on his website, Twitter, LinkedIn, and Instagram.
Mentioned references:
- slap bracelet
- MC Hammer pants
- Blossom, TV show
- School of Industrial Labor Relations
- Clerky
- LegalZoom
- "organizational debt"
- "business judgement rule"
- DAOs: BNW Ep. 96 with Chase Chapman
Our book is available now at bravenewwork.com
We want to hear from you. Send your thoughts and feedback to [email protected]
Looking for some help with your own transformation? Visit theready.com
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With his organization Sociocracy for All, Ted Rau is helping organizations empower their members, and put a spotlight on equity. In this episode of Brave New Work, Aaron Dignan and Rodney Evans talk to Ted about his book, Many Voices One Song, consent-based decision-making, and the challenges of getting the ball rolling with large orgs.
Learn more about Ted and his work:
Mentioned references:
- Notting Hill, 1999 movie
- Jerry Koch-Gonzalez
- "RACI": AWWTR Ep. 10
- Teal
- Gerard Endenburg
Our book is available now at bravenewwork.com
We want to hear from you. Send your thoughts and feedback to [email protected]
Looking for some help with your own transformation? Visit theready.com
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