
Brave New Work 68. Organization Transformation at Scale with Bill Anderson
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04/20/21 • 53 min
Changing the way we work is a difficult task at a company with 150 employees. But what about one with. say, 100,000? In this episode of Brave New Work, Aaron Dignan and Rodney Evans talk to Bill Anderson, CEO of Roche Pharmaceuticals, about his recent work in reshaping the company's structure and processes, change at such a large scale, and the surprising challenges that come along with such a massive undertaking.
Learn more about Bill and his work on LinkedIn.
Mentioned references:
- Roche Pharmaceuticals
- Foundation Medicine
- Flatiron Health
- Genentech
- "org debt"
- Beyond Budgeting
- "reinventing organizations and Frederic Laloux": BNW Ep. 18 with Frederick Laloux
- SAFe
- VITAL Framework (see slide 8)
- Haier
Our book is available now at bravenewwork.com
We want to hear from you. Send your thoughts and feedback to [email protected]
Looking for some help with your own transformation? Visit theready.com
Changing the way we work is a difficult task at a company with 150 employees. But what about one with. say, 100,000? In this episode of Brave New Work, Aaron Dignan and Rodney Evans talk to Bill Anderson, CEO of Roche Pharmaceuticals, about his recent work in reshaping the company's structure and processes, change at such a large scale, and the surprising challenges that come along with such a massive undertaking.
Learn more about Bill and his work on LinkedIn.
Mentioned references:
- Roche Pharmaceuticals
- Foundation Medicine
- Flatiron Health
- Genentech
- "org debt"
- Beyond Budgeting
- "reinventing organizations and Frederic Laloux": BNW Ep. 18 with Frederick Laloux
- SAFe
- VITAL Framework (see slide 8)
- Haier
Our book is available now at bravenewwork.com
We want to hear from you. Send your thoughts and feedback to [email protected]
Looking for some help with your own transformation? Visit theready.com
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Brave New Work 67. Changing The World of Working Agreements with Murmur
Work is all about agreements—policies, processes, principles, goals, workflows, etc. So if you're starting a company from the ground up, how do you give teams the power to align on all of these things in a clear and inclusive way? What if there's already a company out there that's documented the exact policy you're looking for? And when, inevitably, that agreement needs some tweaking, how do you iterate and grow?
In today's episode of Brave New Work, Aaron Dignan and Rodney Evans talk about the new software startup, Murmur, which aims to do for working practices what GitHub did for code. They talk about why Aaron started the company, what the initial product will deliver, and how every new startup can agree to work better together.
Learn more about Murmur at https://www.murmur.com/
Mentioned references:
- murmuration of starlings
- GitHub
- sociocracy
- holacracy
- participatory change
- async work: At Work With The Ready Ep. 7
- Clippy, the Microsoft Office assistant
- Five whys
- regret minimization framework
Our book is available now at bravenewwork.com
We want to hear from you. Send your thoughts and feedback to [email protected]
Looking for some help with your own transformation? Visit theready.com
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Brave New Work 69. Vanishing Asia with Kevin Kelly
Kevin Kelly, the founding editor of WIRED Magazine, has spent years documenting and photographing life in the furthest corners of the Asian continent—and in the process, he's recorded a way of living that is quickly disappearing in the face of the continent's bracing visions for the future.
In this episode of Brave New Work, Aaron Dignan and Rodney Evans talk to Kevin about what we, in our work, can learn from the varied and disparate cultures he's spent much of his life experiencing.
Learn more about "Vanishing Asia" on Kickstarter.
Learn more about Kevin:
- On his website
- On his Instagram
- By reading The Technium Blog
- By subscribing to the Recomendo newsletter.
Mentioned references:
- Kevin's previous appearance: BNW Ep. 34 with Kevin Kelly
- H-Mart
- David Hockney
- Asia Grace, Kevin's earlier photography book
- Kodak Brownie
- Shenzhen
- Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs
- Haier
- "org debt"
- Single's Day
Looking for some help with your own transformation? Visit theready.com
We want to hear from you. Send your thoughts and feedback to [email protected]
Our book is available now at bravenewwork.com
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