
E161 – Successfully Shifting from Services to SaaS (Gary Gaspar, Marker.io)
08/31/21 • 57 min
In today’s episode, Joe talks to Gary Gaspar, the co-founder and CEO of Marker.io - a platform that encourages a simple way to report bugs on live websites and collect client feedback along the way. This 6-member team with over 2M feedback reported and 1,500 plus customers, continue to make it easier for people to report live website issues in real time.
Gary shares how he met his two co-founders at a totally unexpected place, shutting down the agency to focus on growing the business, the integrations they planned as they expand, and focusing more on conversion than website traffic.
Episode Resources:
- Gary is on LinkedIn, Twitter
- Marker.io
- New MRR Merch, discount code: AUGUST31
- Leave an Apple podcast review or binge-watch past episodes
- Visit the WPMRR Community
- The 2021 WPMRR Virtual Summit
What to Listen For:
- 00:00 Intro
- 06:35 Welcome to the pod, Gary!
- 07:25 Instead of a live chat, Marker.io utilizes capture screenshot with annotations
- 12:34 Why there are 3 co-founders
- 20:25 Shutting down the agency and going full-time
- 23:33 The value of owning your company despite having a low paycheck
- 26:57 It took a while to find the right product-market fit, future plans
- 30:18 Marker.io was built with integrations in mind
- 34:35 Original business structure attracted non-targeted customers
- 37:37 Build relationships with folks to reach more people in the community
- 41:58 It’s useless to do all the marketing channels
- 47:01 SEO and integration marketing works
- 49:24 Finding the right person to join the team
- 53:16 Giving the team a lot of creative freedom
In today’s episode, Joe talks to Gary Gaspar, the co-founder and CEO of Marker.io - a platform that encourages a simple way to report bugs on live websites and collect client feedback along the way. This 6-member team with over 2M feedback reported and 1,500 plus customers, continue to make it easier for people to report live website issues in real time.
Gary shares how he met his two co-founders at a totally unexpected place, shutting down the agency to focus on growing the business, the integrations they planned as they expand, and focusing more on conversion than website traffic.
Episode Resources:
- Gary is on LinkedIn, Twitter
- Marker.io
- New MRR Merch, discount code: AUGUST31
- Leave an Apple podcast review or binge-watch past episodes
- Visit the WPMRR Community
- The 2021 WPMRR Virtual Summit
What to Listen For:
- 00:00 Intro
- 06:35 Welcome to the pod, Gary!
- 07:25 Instead of a live chat, Marker.io utilizes capture screenshot with annotations
- 12:34 Why there are 3 co-founders
- 20:25 Shutting down the agency and going full-time
- 23:33 The value of owning your company despite having a low paycheck
- 26:57 It took a while to find the right product-market fit, future plans
- 30:18 Marker.io was built with integrations in mind
- 34:35 Original business structure attracted non-targeted customers
- 37:37 Build relationships with folks to reach more people in the community
- 41:58 It’s useless to do all the marketing channels
- 47:01 SEO and integration marketing works
- 49:24 Finding the right person to join the team
- 53:16 Giving the team a lot of creative freedom
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E160 – Taking Advantage of the Hot WordPress Acquisition Market (Iain Poulson & Alex Denning, FlipWP)
In today’s episode, Joe talks to Iain Poulson and Alex Denning of FlipWP, a private marketplace for buying and selling WordPress businesses. Buyers get vetted listings emailed directly to them, while sellers get access to quality buyers who understand their product and the opportunity they’re offering.
Iain and Alex explain how FlipWP offers a unique experience for both buyers and sellers, providing reasonable valuation for any business while ensuring that all deals remain exclusive to both parties, no middlemen. They aim to connect anyone to the right people to land a successful deal at 1% success fee.
Episode Resources:
- Delicious Brains
- WP Trends
- Pressing Matters
- Ellipsis
- FlipWP
- Alex is on Twitter
- Iain is on Twitter
- Leave an Apple podcast review or binge-watch past episodes
- Visit the WPMRR Community
- The 2021 WPMRR Virtual Summit
- The 80/20 of Profits: Pricing and Margins in Subscriptions (Ben McAdam)
What to Listen For:
- 00:00 Intro
- 03:53 Welcome to the pod, Iain and Alex!
- 07:02 How did it start for FlipWP
- 10:29 What is FlipWP?
- 15:30 From a seller perspective, it's a combination of the maturity of the WordPress ecosystem
- 23:09 Finding a place where you can sell your business
- 26:42 Most FlipWP members are WordPress people
- 29:33 Utilizing leverage in the email lists and the newsletters after launch
- 35:59 Helping people with their business valuation
- 40:06 FlipWP tries to guide people to make sure what they are putting is reasonable
- 46:54 Some people are taking out competitors by buying similar business
- 48:42 FlipWP connects people, but buyers should their own research
- 51:41 The 1% success fee remains the same for now
- 54:17 Helping buyers get better access and sellers better prices
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E162 - Proudly Staying Small Regardless of Popular Growth Norms (Tara Claeys, DesignTLC)
In today’s episode, we bring back Joe’s chat with the Founder and Director of Design TLC, Tara Claeys. As a seasoned website designer and developer with a marketing background going back over 25 years, she provides custom website and graphic design services, with a focus on creating effective, customized, user-friendly communication platforms for small schools, camps, and nonprofits.
Tara talks about the steady growth of her company, how she isn’t aiming for a 7-figure business anytime soon, keeping a happy outlook while working in several different projects, and choosing how to present yourself in social media.
Episode Resources:
- Design TLC
- Tara is on Twitter, LinkedIn
- Tara Claeys’ Website
- Hallway Chats
- Leave an Apple podcast review or binge-watch past episodes
- Visit the WPMRR Community
- The 2021 WPMRR Virtual Summit
What to Listen For:
- 00:00 Intro
- 00:19 Welcome to the pod, Tara!
- 06:17 Joining PressNomics and other events
- 11:37 Rebuffing the Design TLC website
- 17:00 Bringing happiness in what you do
- 22:19 You don’t have to have a 7 figure business to be successful
- 27:19 Be physically responsible with managing your business funds
- 33:51 You only see people’s best moments on social media
- 37:05 People in the WordPress community are generally open
- 37:39 Find Tara online
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