
Finding Your Way Back to the Earth Through Shamanism
01/25/19 • 45 min
When people are at a crossroads in their life and are looking for healing they will often seek out the help of a shaman. Shamans are all about connecting to the Earth and energy healing. My guest today is Julie Hannon. Julie began her career in HR, but always felt called to the Earth. After leaving her high-stress job, she went back to her roots and rediscovered shamanism.
Julie is the founder of Inner Peace & Wellness where she facilitates joy and wellness in the lives of those she works with. Julie also has a master’s degree in psychology, over 20 years experience as a human resources director, she is HeartMath certified, she has 20 years of yoga experience and has completed yoga teacher training, and she is also a teacher at the Light Body School for energy medicine & shamanism. She is here today to share her journey and story with us.
Show Notes
- [02:43] Julie worked in HR at a biotech company and helped the company grow from 140 employees to 2,500 employees until they restructured down to 1200.
- [03:02] She loved her work, but didn't love not being able to see her two young children more often.
- [03:19] Julie decided to take a leap of faith and take some time off. During this time someone gave her a book about shamanism.
- [03:27] Reading the book changed everything for her. She had studied some Shamanism in the past. Her call to be connected to the Earth was a lifelong calling.
- [05:51] A shaman dances with their feet in both worlds. The world of energy and the world of matter.
- [06:35] A shaman is someone who can shift their state of consciousness at will for the purpose of healing and accessing information.
- [07:21] In quantum physics we are mostly energy and .00001 percent matter. We spend all of our time thinking that matter is what matters.
- [07:48] The shaman works with the other percent and helps us pay attention to the energy and change our frequency so that we can have joy.
- [09:09] We should upgrade our energy body as often or more often than we upgrade the operating system on our phones.
- [09:58] Ways to upgrade your energy include meditating and being in nature. Along with, yoga and being still.
- [10:44] We can update our frequency by connecting to the Earth. You can do grounding exercises by taking your shoes off and standing outside on the grass.
- [11:31] People who've tried other things and our looking for their purpose and happiness try Shamanism.
- [12:05] It's about the body, mind, and soul. The third place of perception is the soul level. Outside of that is the energetic.
- [13:27] Her focus is really about helping people rediscover their own connection to the Earth and living their best life and giving them the tools to do that.
- [14:46] How do you clear your energetics in in order to see new possibilities? Anything is possible.
- [15:27] Imagination is the largest nation on Earth and when you join into that place anything is possible.
- [16:16] Julie never imagined traveling the world and teaching Shamanism, but it changed her world.
- [17:16] If we release our suffering, we have joy. If we let go of our attachments, we have possibility.
- [18:09] Things that would prevent people from Shamanism could be their logical mind.
- [18:42] The left brain is about logic, and the right brain is about possibilities.
- [20:11] Being in nature you can grow the connections between your left and your right brain.
- [23:33] One of Julie's biggest challenges is she doesn't like to sit in front of the computer.
- [23:59] Julie is an extrovert, and she finds entrepreneurship somewhat lonely.
- [24:27] It's really important for her to participate with groups that brainstorm and finding community.
- [26:23] Failure is an opportunity for learning.
- [27:26] Success is a place of having people show up to classes. It's getting up and making moves forward.
- [29:19] It is possible to tap into that energy. Have you ever had a few moments when everything was connected? The idea is to clear the pathway, so we have these more often.
- [31:05] Julie had a lot of exposure teaching. Now she is partnering with other people and having local ceremonies in the Boston area.
- [32:26] She is growing a business brand and uses social media for this.
- [33:40] Social media is about making connections and finding people. The best relationships are in the physical world with people in person.
- [37:21] Julie uses music online and InsightTimer which is a meditation app.
- [38:18] It has access to a lot of amazing teachers and free meditations.
- [40:06] Julie feels news can deplete your energy.
- [41:42] Breathe in and out of your heart. Take a breath and really find what's in the way of breathing out of your heart.
- [42:32] Be present ...
When people are at a crossroads in their life and are looking for healing they will often seek out the help of a shaman. Shamans are all about connecting to the Earth and energy healing. My guest today is Julie Hannon. Julie began her career in HR, but always felt called to the Earth. After leaving her high-stress job, she went back to her roots and rediscovered shamanism.
Julie is the founder of Inner Peace & Wellness where she facilitates joy and wellness in the lives of those she works with. Julie also has a master’s degree in psychology, over 20 years experience as a human resources director, she is HeartMath certified, she has 20 years of yoga experience and has completed yoga teacher training, and she is also a teacher at the Light Body School for energy medicine & shamanism. She is here today to share her journey and story with us.
Show Notes
- [02:43] Julie worked in HR at a biotech company and helped the company grow from 140 employees to 2,500 employees until they restructured down to 1200.
- [03:02] She loved her work, but didn't love not being able to see her two young children more often.
- [03:19] Julie decided to take a leap of faith and take some time off. During this time someone gave her a book about shamanism.
- [03:27] Reading the book changed everything for her. She had studied some Shamanism in the past. Her call to be connected to the Earth was a lifelong calling.
- [05:51] A shaman dances with their feet in both worlds. The world of energy and the world of matter.
- [06:35] A shaman is someone who can shift their state of consciousness at will for the purpose of healing and accessing information.
- [07:21] In quantum physics we are mostly energy and .00001 percent matter. We spend all of our time thinking that matter is what matters.
- [07:48] The shaman works with the other percent and helps us pay attention to the energy and change our frequency so that we can have joy.
- [09:09] We should upgrade our energy body as often or more often than we upgrade the operating system on our phones.
- [09:58] Ways to upgrade your energy include meditating and being in nature. Along with, yoga and being still.
- [10:44] We can update our frequency by connecting to the Earth. You can do grounding exercises by taking your shoes off and standing outside on the grass.
- [11:31] People who've tried other things and our looking for their purpose and happiness try Shamanism.
- [12:05] It's about the body, mind, and soul. The third place of perception is the soul level. Outside of that is the energetic.
- [13:27] Her focus is really about helping people rediscover their own connection to the Earth and living their best life and giving them the tools to do that.
- [14:46] How do you clear your energetics in in order to see new possibilities? Anything is possible.
- [15:27] Imagination is the largest nation on Earth and when you join into that place anything is possible.
- [16:16] Julie never imagined traveling the world and teaching Shamanism, but it changed her world.
- [17:16] If we release our suffering, we have joy. If we let go of our attachments, we have possibility.
- [18:09] Things that would prevent people from Shamanism could be their logical mind.
- [18:42] The left brain is about logic, and the right brain is about possibilities.
- [20:11] Being in nature you can grow the connections between your left and your right brain.
- [23:33] One of Julie's biggest challenges is she doesn't like to sit in front of the computer.
- [23:59] Julie is an extrovert, and she finds entrepreneurship somewhat lonely.
- [24:27] It's really important for her to participate with groups that brainstorm and finding community.
- [26:23] Failure is an opportunity for learning.
- [27:26] Success is a place of having people show up to classes. It's getting up and making moves forward.
- [29:19] It is possible to tap into that energy. Have you ever had a few moments when everything was connected? The idea is to clear the pathway, so we have these more often.
- [31:05] Julie had a lot of exposure teaching. Now she is partnering with other people and having local ceremonies in the Boston area.
- [32:26] She is growing a business brand and uses social media for this.
- [33:40] Social media is about making connections and finding people. The best relationships are in the physical world with people in person.
- [37:21] Julie uses music online and InsightTimer which is a meditation app.
- [38:18] It has access to a lot of amazing teachers and free meditations.
- [40:06] Julie feels news can deplete your energy.
- [41:42] Breathe in and out of your heart. Take a breath and really find what's in the way of breathing out of your heart.
- [42:32] Be present ...
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Negotiating as If Your Life Depends on It with Chris Voss
How do you rate yourself as a negotiator? Do you negotiate as if your life depends on it? Today's special guest is an expert negotiator, and he shares negotiation tips that we can all use in our business and our lives. We learn how Chris became a negotiator, the four steps to negotiation, how these same principles can be applied in business, and more.
Chris Voss is a 24-year FBI veteran and was the lead international kidnapping negotiator when he retired. He is the author of the national bestseller Never Split The Difference: Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It. He is now the CEO of The Black Swan Group where he specializes in solving business communication problems using hostage negotiation solutions.
Show Notes- [03:13] Chris was originally on the SWAT team and he liked crisis response. He likes it when people have to make up their minds and make a decision.
- [03:40] He had a knee injury, but he still wanted to be in crisis response,so he decided to become a hostage negotiator.
- [04:23] Talking to people can be hard and Chris had to take a deep in-depth dive. He also had to volunteer on a suicide hotline to hone his emotional intelligence skills.
- [04:44] He realized that empathy could be a played in hostage negotiation and in everyday life.
- [05:22] Chris and the FBI started using empathy and emotional intelligence in bargaining in hostage negotiations. This was a shift from the FBI previous tactics.
- [06:08] The active use of emotional intelligence changed everything in bargaining.
- [06:34] Understanding doesn't have to equate to agreement.
- [07:48] You can also shift confrontation, so it's not confrontational.
- [08:07] Mirroring for hostage negotiators is just repeating the last three words of what someone has said. This actually creates a powerful connection in people's heads and they say more.
- [09:16] Criminals like everyone else want to relax and have a good time on Saturday night. By being patient they would frequently settle negotiations on Saturday morning.
- [09:47] The four steps to negotiations. Use the late night FM DJ voice. Start with I'm sorry. Mirror. At least four seconds of silence to let the mirror work it's magic. Repeat.
- [10:33] Everything is learned it's just that some people put their 10,000 hours in before others.
- [11:33] There is nothing wrong with I'm sorry. It's the context. It's a great warning device.
- [13:04] Mirror the last three words. People will expand.
- [14:32] The difference between you are right and that's right.
- [15:55] Show that you understand and summarize the perspective and get to that's right.
- [16:45] We negotiate five or six times a day, especially with commitments of time.
- [18:33] Some people want silence so they can think, but others think of it as an interpretation of anger. If you treat people the way you want to be treated you are wrong 2/3 of the time.
- [19:51] Emotional intelligence is unlimited all you really have to do is try.
- [23:00] Chris is a regular guy. He's from a basic blue collar culture. He knew he wanted to go into law enforcement when he was 16, but he just envisioned himself at the police department.
- [24:36] He was attracted to the big city environment and Kansas City. He was also in New York City for 14 years.
- [25:06] Managing stress comes down to attitude. The difference between ordeal and adventure is mindset.
- [27:19] Chris shares a hostage situation in Harlem. He practiced one-way dialogue. Calling out negative emotions diffuses them. Eventually, after 6 hours of no response the suspects came out.
- [31:05] Chris has learned that he loves helping people make great deals. He has an impact and it is ongoing.
- [31:58] They have a strategy of calling out all of the negatives that the other party may be feeling. This is called an accusations audit.
- [33:20] One of Chris's colleagues turned the tables on him.
- [34:32] Chris's biggest influences in life were his father and his mother.
- [35:54] Both of Chris's parents were entrepreneurs, and he always knew he wanted to be an entrepreneur.
- [36:36] He has close colleagues, and his family is involved, and he's helping the people who work with him.
- [37:18] To be a good entrepreneur you need a team.
- [39:04] Let the other side go first. Hear them out. Never be so right that you won't go for something better.
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Exploring Career Wanderlust and Being a Lifelong Learner with John Lim
How do you go from lawyer to actor to entrepreneur and podcaster? Find out with my next guest who is an expert in wanderlust. John Lim is an entrepreneur, TEDx speaker, author, and podcaster who I had the pleasure of connecting with on Twitter. John is a lifelong learner, and began his first career as an attorney at the age of 25.
While developing his presentation skills, he stumbled upon his interest in acting. Through a series of events he ended up being on National Geographic, the History Channel, and commercials. He also played Sulu on Star Trek the Next Voyage across from George Takei. John shares his journey and explains how he ended up becoming an entrepreneur and podcaster.
Show Notes
- [04:30] John's career wanderlust has been more of a reflection of his own journey.
- [06:05] When John was in law school, he took an acting class because he thought it would help his career.
- [06:51] He fell in love with acting.
- [07:27] He was an attorney at 25 years old. He chose the wrong firm, and he was unhappy.
- [08:58] Sometimes young attorneys go to law school for the wrong reasons.
- [09:20] John left his practice and shifted into educational consulting.
- [09:55] He developed his presentation skills and was advised by an acting coach that maybe he should try getting back into acting.
- [10:17] He took more acting classes.
- [11:08] Being on camera really stretched John past his comfort zone. His acting teacher also encouraged him to take up acting.
- [11:21] He started auditioning and actually got some rolls. He acted for National Geographic, the History Channel, and did some commercials.
- [12:12] He discovered independent films called fan films.
- [12:54] He was blown away by Star Trek New Voyage.
- [13:44] John auditioned for the role of Sulu and even played across from George Takei.
- [15:24] While still trying to act he had a life-changing event. His mother had a heart attack. He was crushed when he lost his mother in 2008.
- [17:03] He started consulting again.
- [17:58] He decided to go back to school and get his MBA.
- [18:24] He met some great professors who were entrepreneurs.
- [18:52] John decided to take the leap and become an entrepreneur. Launching his podcast has been part of the journey.
- [20:24] John is a lifelong learner and being an entrepreneur fits perfectly with that lifestyle.
- [21:14] John and Deirdre connected on Twitter.
- [24:47] John stumbled upon podcasts accidentally and started listening to Robert Kiyosaki's radio show.
- [25:14] He became immersed in podcasts and realized that he might want to try it.
- [27:09] The podcast helped him develop relationships and find connections on social media.
- [29:14] John has been working on a project helping his dad take his business online.
- [30:38] Because of his podcast, John was invited to give his first TEDx Talk.
- [31:28] He is working on his first book and starting a second podcast.
- [32:34] John has been able to grow and try new things because of failures and setbacks.
- [32:53] For John, success is about family and health.
- [34:20] He considers business success being on your own and being able to pay the bills.
- [35:20] When you become an entrepreneur sometimes your outlook changes. Even relationships sometimes require an audit.
- [36:38] Trying something different can be a lens to see who in your life really support you.
- [37:47] As an entrepreneur, John has failures every week.
- [39:28] Making your own decisions can be stressful. You need a tolerance for ambiguity and a tolerance to know that everything you try may not work out.
- [40:17] John's biggest failure last year was probably saying yes to too many things which detracted from his real priorities.
- [41:32] It's also important to know your worth and guard your time when necessary.
- [43:07] Consume as much content as you can. Start creating content. Put yourself out there, because the content you create will become part of your branding.
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