
Nicky Billou: Reframing Sales as Service
02/21/25 • 21 min
In this conversation, Nicky Billou shares his inspiring journey from being an immigrant in Iran to becoming a successful entrepreneur and thought leader. He emphasizes the importance of freedom, human connection, and reframing sales as service. Nicky discusses the challenges of navigating the digital age while maintaining authentic relationships and outlines essential qualities for business success. He also defines thought leadership and its significance in the business world.
Key Takeaways:
- Nicky's journey from Iran highlights the value of freedom.
- Entrepreneurs must champion freedom to thrive.
- Sales should be reframed as service to help others.
- Human connection is vital in business, especially post-COVID.
- Digital marketing is noisy; authentic connections matter more.
- Successful business owners must be decisive and committed.
- Investing in personal development is crucial for success.
- Thought leaders are known for their unique insights and contributions.
- Building relationships creates opportunities for business growth.
- Loving the process is essential to achieving desired results.
In this conversation, Nicky Billou shares his inspiring journey from being an immigrant in Iran to becoming a successful entrepreneur and thought leader. He emphasizes the importance of freedom, human connection, and reframing sales as service. Nicky discusses the challenges of navigating the digital age while maintaining authentic relationships and outlines essential qualities for business success. He also defines thought leadership and its significance in the business world.
Key Takeaways:
- Nicky's journey from Iran highlights the value of freedom.
- Entrepreneurs must champion freedom to thrive.
- Sales should be reframed as service to help others.
- Human connection is vital in business, especially post-COVID.
- Digital marketing is noisy; authentic connections matter more.
- Successful business owners must be decisive and committed.
- Investing in personal development is crucial for success.
- Thought leaders are known for their unique insights and contributions.
- Building relationships creates opportunities for business growth.
- Loving the process is essential to achieving desired results.
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Exerpts:
Abbey Crane What other things have led to more growth for you? We were recently talking with Kelvin Dorsey who's got an unconventional newsletter, which made me think about non-traditional marketing efforts...Are there any other things that your shop has kind of led to that you've been really excited about?
Jon Stager You know, since moving here, I have mostly focused on online sales. And Etsy's been great to expand my horizons because it's such a wide marketplace, literally worldwide. Although I focus mostly on North America. I've had some sales in Australia and England. But yeah, so it's really expanded my horizons. I almost haven't needed to sell locally as much. I guess when I moved here, I had my client base already, because I had started in Pennsylvania.
So now I'm trying to kind of tap into the local market more, like forcing myself to just not be content with online sales, but really. Yeah, I'm excited to start going to local markets and selling in person. The local art scene in Cookville is really awesome. And I feel like just a matter of focusing and building up an inventory, that's the hardest part. I get busy with these online sales and whatnot. It takes up a lot of your time and then just a matter of setting aside time to make these items to have in stock to bring to shows. That's something I look forward to exploring.
Abbey Crane: You've maintained a simple business model as a sole proprietorship. Tell us about that decision.
Jon Stager: I'm sort of a minimalist within reason! I I prefer the warm comfort of cabins over luxury cabo experiences. There's something authentic about living simply, surrounded by natural materials. My shop is about 30 feet from my cabin, so my home and work life are very entwined. I chose to remain a sole proprietorship because I want to keep things as simple as possible.
I'm not trying to become a big corporation with people working under me and building things that just have my name on them. I respect the craft too much for that. I'm sort of a minimalist within reason, though my shop can be a little cluttered! My shop is about 30 feet from my cabin, so my home and work life are very entwined.
I chose to remain a sole proprietorship because I want to keep things as simple as possible. I'm not trying to become a big corporation with people working under me and building things that just have my name on them. I respect the craft too much for that.
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