Episode 2: You're Not Wrong Walter, You're Just an A$$hole
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06/05/18 • 61 min
In this episode, Yoel and Mickey tackle problems of tone and incivility in online discussions of the scientific literature. What constitutes bullying and is the term abused to derail legitimate criticism? What is an ad hominem attack and when is it a fallacy? Finally, who's our favorite member of the Black Goat podcast?
Links:
- When the Revolution Came for Amy Cuddy - The New York Times
- Here’s How Cornell Scientist Brian Wansink Turned Shoddy Data Into Viral Studies About How We Eat
- Some Points On Bullying, Attacks and Criticism
- Simone Schnall's replication response
- Issues with data and analyses: Errors, underlying themes, and potential solutions | PNAS — Scientists are often protected by academic freedom, and in the United States, individuals are afforded First Amendment rights for free speech. However, freedoms are not immune to legal or social recourse, as in the case where a biotech chief executive officer was convicted of wire fraud for a misleading press release about a product (88). Individuals engaging in ad hominem attacks in scientific discourse should be subject to censure.
- No, we can't censure people for ad hominem attacks in scientific discourse. |
- Stop accusing me of ad hominem fallacies you stupid idiots | The Logic of Science
- PsychMAP
- PsychMAD
- Sanjay's blog
- Simine's blog
- The Black Goat – A podcast about doing science
- Wheat — Side Launch Brewing Company
- Great Lakes Brewery - Octopus Wants to Fight IPA
In this episode, Yoel and Mickey tackle problems of tone and incivility in online discussions of the scientific literature. What constitutes bullying and is the term abused to derail legitimate criticism? What is an ad hominem attack and when is it a fallacy? Finally, who's our favorite member of the Black Goat podcast?
Links:
- When the Revolution Came for Amy Cuddy - The New York Times
- Here’s How Cornell Scientist Brian Wansink Turned Shoddy Data Into Viral Studies About How We Eat
- Some Points On Bullying, Attacks and Criticism
- Simone Schnall's replication response
- Issues with data and analyses: Errors, underlying themes, and potential solutions | PNAS — Scientists are often protected by academic freedom, and in the United States, individuals are afforded First Amendment rights for free speech. However, freedoms are not immune to legal or social recourse, as in the case where a biotech chief executive officer was convicted of wire fraud for a misleading press release about a product (88). Individuals engaging in ad hominem attacks in scientific discourse should be subject to censure.
- No, we can't censure people for ad hominem attacks in scientific discourse. |
- Stop accusing me of ad hominem fallacies you stupid idiots | The Logic of Science
- PsychMAP
- PsychMAD
- Sanjay's blog
- Simine's blog
- The Black Goat – A podcast about doing science
- Wheat — Side Launch Brewing Company
- Great Lakes Brewery - Octopus Wants to Fight IPA
Previous Episode
Episode 1: In Search of the Campus Free Speech Crisis
In their first episode, Yoel and Mickey tackle the alleged free speech crisis on campus. Is there reason to worry or are reports of left-wing intolerance overblown? We take a closer look and talk about what we do and don't feel comfortable saying on campus.
Also: who are we and why are we doing this?
Links:
- The ‘campus free speech crisis’ is a myth. Here are the facts. - The Washington Post
- The Skeptics are Wrong Part 1: Attitudes About Free Speech On Campus are Changing – Heterodox Academy
- The Skeptics Are Wrong Part 2: Speech Culture on Campus is Changing – Heterodox Academy
- Disinvitation Database - FIRE
- Charles Murray at Middlebury
- Christina Sommers at Lewis & Clark
- Collective Arts: Prophets & Nomads
- Collective Arts: Lunch Money
Next Episode
Episode 3: WTF is the IDW?
Yoel and Mickey take a deep dive into the so-called Intellectual Dark Web (IDW). What is the IDW and who are the prominent members of this group? Why do members of the IDW seem so cranky? Are members of the IDW actually being silenced, and given their massive popularity, who is silencing them? Is the IDW a positive and new development in our culture? Should the members of the IDW be concerned about some of their fans and followers?
Bonus: Why did Yoel decide to have us drink the champagne of beers?
Links:
- Meet the Renegades of the Intellectual Dark Web — An alliance of heretics is making an end run around the mainstream conversation. Should we be listening?
- After Evergreen - The Stranger — One Year Later, Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying Look Back
- The Sam Harris-Ezra Klein debate - Vox — Ezra and Sam Harris debate race, IQ, identity politics, and much more.
- Sam Harris and the Myth of Perfectly Rational Thought | WIRED — The famous proponent of New Atheism is on a crusade against tribalism but seems oblivious to his own version of it.
- Can Things Be Both Popular And Silenced? | Slate Star Codex — CAN THINGS BE BOTH POPULAR AND SILENCED?
- Pretty Loud For Being So Silenced | Current Affairs — Critics of the left aren’t oppressed and they don’t believe in “rational debate.”
- Intellectual Dark Web: Bari Weiss’s Analysis Is a Little Off | National Review — First, let me say that the phrase “Intellectual Dark Web” strikes me as a marketing label — and not necessarily a good one.
- Quillette Magazine
- Most in U.S. Oppose Colleges Considering Race in Admissions — - Seven in 10 Americans say merit should be only basis for college admissions - 65% disagree with Supreme Court decision allowing race to be a factor - By 50% to 44%, blacks favor merit, not race
- Miller High Life | The Champagne of Beers
- Fireball Cinnamon Whisky
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