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True North with Abby & Ryan - Abby & Ryan Are Woo Woo AF
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Abby & Ryan Are Woo Woo AF

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02/05/22 • 70 min

True North with Abby & Ryan

**SORRY FOR RYAN'S WEIRD SOUND QUALITY**
Ryan is hung-up on people perceiving him as credible, and is therefore hesitant to openly admit to how woo-woo he is. His concern is that there are people out there who blindly trust in things with no solid reason, and so when he opens up about trusting them as well, he'll be lumped in with the non-critical thinking masses who will believe unfounded things with very little scrutiny or need for compelling evidence.

  • He does energy healing but is skeptical of Reiki practitioners
  • He uses crystals but distances himself from the "crystal people"
  • He uses essential oils but hates when people treat them like cure-alls and replacements for medical care
  • He's open to astrology but thinks horoscopes are bullshit
  • He actively manifests but hates The Secret and dismisses the Law of Attraction people
  • He reads Tarot but is skeptical of most Tarot practitioners
  • He uses numerology but judges others and himself for giving it any credence at all
  • He doesn't not believe in reincarnation, but definitely doesn't put stock in any existing belief system about reincarnation

Basically, he believes in woo-woo stuff only after throwing all the skepticism and scrutiny he possibly can at it, and seeing that it still stands. AND, he only trusts other people who also meet the spiritual with heavy doses of skepticism. In this episode, we unpack that.
And then we also talk about manifesting.

TIME CODES:
22:39 - Manifesting
39:29 - The realities we live in are the ones we create
44:20 - Health and unhealth as consequences of the mind
GRATITUDES:

  • Ryan is grateful that this recent snowstorm gave his toddler a much needed change of scenery.
  • Abby is grateful that this recent snowstorm has reminded her (through her son) about the value of simplicity.

MODEETS:

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**SORRY FOR RYAN'S WEIRD SOUND QUALITY**
Ryan is hung-up on people perceiving him as credible, and is therefore hesitant to openly admit to how woo-woo he is. His concern is that there are people out there who blindly trust in things with no solid reason, and so when he opens up about trusting them as well, he'll be lumped in with the non-critical thinking masses who will believe unfounded things with very little scrutiny or need for compelling evidence.

  • He does energy healing but is skeptical of Reiki practitioners
  • He uses crystals but distances himself from the "crystal people"
  • He uses essential oils but hates when people treat them like cure-alls and replacements for medical care
  • He's open to astrology but thinks horoscopes are bullshit
  • He actively manifests but hates The Secret and dismisses the Law of Attraction people
  • He reads Tarot but is skeptical of most Tarot practitioners
  • He uses numerology but judges others and himself for giving it any credence at all
  • He doesn't not believe in reincarnation, but definitely doesn't put stock in any existing belief system about reincarnation

Basically, he believes in woo-woo stuff only after throwing all the skepticism and scrutiny he possibly can at it, and seeing that it still stands. AND, he only trusts other people who also meet the spiritual with heavy doses of skepticism. In this episode, we unpack that.
And then we also talk about manifesting.

TIME CODES:
22:39 - Manifesting
39:29 - The realities we live in are the ones we create
44:20 - Health and unhealth as consequences of the mind
GRATITUDES:

  • Ryan is grateful that this recent snowstorm gave his toddler a much needed change of scenery.
  • Abby is grateful that this recent snowstorm has reminded her (through her son) about the value of simplicity.

MODEETS:

🤯😭🎁

Previous Episode

undefined - Trust and Soap Boxes

Trust and Soap Boxes

What is trust, really? In the first 20 minutes, we settle on this loose definition:

  • Trust is about safety. You know what needs to be put in place for you to feel safe.
  • If you feel the need to put them in place yourself (because if you don't, you won't be safe), that's the antithesis of you trusting someone.
  • If you believe the other person will/has put those things in place on their own (such that you don't feel the need to do it yourself), that equals you trusting them.

Where do you place your trust, and why do you place it there?
Reasons Ryan has extended trust in the past (which isn't the same as trusting them):

  1. Conflict aversion. If I tell someone I don't trust them, they'll take it as me questioning their character, may become offended, and might hurt me. So I've extended trust to people I didn't trust, to avoid conflict.
  2. Outsourcing self. I know that I'm not trustworthy my default. Just like love, respect, value affirmation, etc., if I find something lacking within myself, I look for others to affirm it for me. I wanted people to trust me to compensate for my lack of trustworthiness, and the best way to get trust is to give it.

One component of Tribalism is Implied Trust - meaning, it can be assumed that anyone in a given tribe has a certain set of things in common. So, if you vet people's trustworthiness based on certain characteristics, and you find they belong to a certain tribe, that one piece of information implies a whole collection of boxes you could reasonably check in the "do I trust them" checklist (i.e. if you're in my tribe, I find you more trustworthy because it's assumed that the characteristics of people in my tribe are things I've found trustworthy).
When someone knows you well and loves you well, it doesn't occur to them to get offended at the prospect of you being who you are.

  • If they love you well but don't know you well, they love a nonexistent version of you that only exists in their head, such that the idea of being your true self can seem like a threat to the relationship.
  • If they know you well but don't love you well, they likely harbor some level of attachment to you becoming the version of you they imagine they would love more.

TIME CODES:
13:17 - Why Ryan extends trust
24:00 - Tribalism and Trust
29:19 - Trust yourself most
42:04 - How is success in relationship defined? (spoiler, it's not longevity)
45:04 - ANNOUNCEMENT: This is our last season!
57:18 - Ryan epiphanizes the idea of extending too much benefit of the doubt
GRATITUDES:

  • Ryan is grateful for the editor/illustrator who worked on his first book with him.
  • Abby is grateful her dogs, for teaching her patience and empathy, and also for giving her a new form of connective stillness practice.

MODEETS:

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Next Episode

undefined - We Interview Ryan's Brother!

We Interview Ryan's Brother!

Ryan is a second-born middle child. Anyone who puts stock in birth order dynamics just learned a lot about Ryan from those two pieces of information.
In this episode, we interview his older brother Brandon, who has lived in Japan for the past several years. We start by discussing the differences between American and Japanese culture, and what it was like to pack up their entire lives into 16 bags and move across the ocean.
"I am a specific person. I have specific gifts and abilities that are unique to me, and I also have limitations that are also unique to me, and this does not detract from who I am as a person or the types of things that I can hope for. But it does mean that I need to be able to be realistic about the times that I can help and the times that I can't. Because if I can't be realistic about that, then I'll hamstring the impact that I could be making, in favor of the impact that I can't make. So in the end it became a process of, 'Let's not make it anything; let's just see it.' "
"People use their head to establish the direction and their heart for the method, when really it should be the other way around."
"It's not about understanding the truth; it's about understanding your place within it."
"You're looking to your insecurity voice for validation, when you should be looking to it for growth imperatives. It's not telling you wrong, you're listening wrong."
"We want people to get to know us, not contextualize us."
"I don't have to understand why they do what they do, to accept that that's what they do."
TIME CODES:
5:30 - Downsizing life
12:11 - Getting our dad back
17:26 - Father wounds and childcare workers
27:12 - The tension between our desire to help and the limits of our helpfulness
41:51 - Japan Brandon vs. America Brandon
45:01 - Addressing the problem vs. solving the problem
59:00 - Feeling like a foreigner in your own land
GRATITUDES:

  • Brandon is grateful that his collection of hard-earned life lessons can and will be passed down to his kids as just the way the world works.
  • Abby is grateful for the roles Ryan and Brandon have played in her own self-actualization journey.
  • Ryan is grateful for his brother for modeling what it looks like to "run his lap" of parenthood.

MODEETS:

🦴😬🎵🎁

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