
The Key to Stronger Teams: Why We Need More Conflict
04/23/25 • 29 min
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Most teams assume that conflict gets in the way of success. New York Times bestselling author and organizational psychologist Liane Davey reveals how it can be the foundation for better collaboration.
About Liane Davey
Liane Davey is a New York Times Bestselling author of three books, including The Good Fight: Use Productive Conflict to Get Your Team and Your Organization Back on Track and You First: Inspire Your Team to Grow Up, Get Along, and Get Stuff Done. She is a contributor to the Harvard Business Review and is frequently called on by media outlets for her experience in leadership, team effectiveness, and productivity. As the co-founder of 3COze Inc., she advises companies such as Amazon, McDonald's, Walmart, UNICEF, 3M, and SONY. Liane has a Ph.D. in Organizational Psychology.
About Marc Wolfe
Marc A. Wolfe, at 9 years old, was removed from public school for being “too smart and disruptive” a moment that shaped his mission to empower others. Marc is professionally curious; he asks questions, sees potential that others overlook, and loves to help people find a way to get unstuck.At 16, he launched a photography business, capturing US Presidents, prominent leaders, and NFL teams. He ran two businesses while earning his marketing degree, including one supporting early Apple products at Fortune 500 companies. With decades as an innovation and strategy consultant, Marc is also an ICF-certified executive coach who's written for Forbes and mentored Inc. 5000 companies.
The “yeah, buts” covered in this episode:
- Yeah, But... It's Not Safe [3:15]
- Yeah, But... What Will Others Say Or Think? [9:06]
- Yeah, But... What If I Fail? [15:18]
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Marc’s contact details
2000 Mallory Ln, Suite 130.257
Franklin, TN 37067 USA
201 257 3545
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Most teams assume that conflict gets in the way of success. New York Times bestselling author and organizational psychologist Liane Davey reveals how it can be the foundation for better collaboration.
About Liane Davey
Liane Davey is a New York Times Bestselling author of three books, including The Good Fight: Use Productive Conflict to Get Your Team and Your Organization Back on Track and You First: Inspire Your Team to Grow Up, Get Along, and Get Stuff Done. She is a contributor to the Harvard Business Review and is frequently called on by media outlets for her experience in leadership, team effectiveness, and productivity. As the co-founder of 3COze Inc., she advises companies such as Amazon, McDonald's, Walmart, UNICEF, 3M, and SONY. Liane has a Ph.D. in Organizational Psychology.
About Marc Wolfe
Marc A. Wolfe, at 9 years old, was removed from public school for being “too smart and disruptive” a moment that shaped his mission to empower others. Marc is professionally curious; he asks questions, sees potential that others overlook, and loves to help people find a way to get unstuck.At 16, he launched a photography business, capturing US Presidents, prominent leaders, and NFL teams. He ran two businesses while earning his marketing degree, including one supporting early Apple products at Fortune 500 companies. With decades as an innovation and strategy consultant, Marc is also an ICF-certified executive coach who's written for Forbes and mentored Inc. 5000 companies.
The “yeah, buts” covered in this episode:
- Yeah, But... It's Not Safe [3:15]
- Yeah, But... What Will Others Say Or Think? [9:06]
- Yeah, But... What If I Fail? [15:18]
Liane’s contact info:
Marc’s links
Follow Marc A. Wolfe on social media for more resources:
Please like, subscribe, and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts, YouTube Podcast, and Spotify.
Marc’s contact details
2000 Mallory Ln, Suite 130.257
Franklin, TN 37067 USA
201 257 3545
[email protected]
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The “yeah, buts” covered in this episode:
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Susie’s contact info:
Marc’s links
Follow Marc A. Wolfe on social media for more resources:
Please like, subscribe, and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts, YouTube Podcast, and Spotify.
Marc’s contact details2000 Mallory Ln, Suite 130.257 Franklin, TN 37067 USA
201 257 3545
[email protected]
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