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The Standards Show

The Standards Show

Matthew Chiles & Cindy Parokkil

The Standards Show - the podcast that brings you the stories behind the standards. Join Matthew Chiles and Cindy Parokkil - and their guests along the way - for conversations on the concepts, history, people, and organizations involved in standards. And how they shape and improve the world around us, making life easier, safer, and more enjoyable. From facilitating international trade, to fixing potholes, to brewing the perfect cup of tea. Expect a mixture of bite-sized and in-depth episodes and frequent series, such as the monthly Standards Desk of News and Standards in 10 Minutes. And regular features too, including the popular My Favourite Standard. Sometimes serious, sometimes light-hearted, though always informative, educational and engaging, The Standards Show is the podcast for anyone working in standards, using standards, studying and researching standards, or just plain curious about standards. Matthew Chiles is a stakeholder relations specialist and has been communicating policy ideas and programmes for over 20 years. Cindy Parokkil is an experienced economist and international development practitioner. [The Standards Show was formerly the BSI Education Podcast]
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Goodpods has curated a list of the 10 best The Standards Show episodes, ranked by the number of listens and likes each episode have garnered from our listeners. If you are listening to The Standards Show for the first time, there's no better place to start than with one of these standout episodes. If you are a fan of the show, vote for your favorite The Standards Show episode by adding your comments to the episode page.

The Standards Show - Consumer Protection | ISO 22458 - consumer vulnerability
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05/13/25 • 29 min

This series of The Standards Show looks at how three key standards protect consumers, promote fairness, and tackle real-world challenges, highlighting the UK's leadership in developing them.

  • PAS 7055 - button and coin battery safety
  • ISO 22458 - consumer vulnerability
  • ISO 21800 - online terms and conditions

Developed in association with CPIN and published to coincide with the ISO COPOLCO Annual Meeting in London, bringing together over 120 National Standards Bodies to champion consumer protection worldwide.

In this episode, Matthew speaks to Karen Smyth from the Consumer Council Northern Ireland about how ISO 22458 for consumer vulnerability is being used to promote fairer and more inclusive services.

Series | Consumer protection

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ISO 22458 – consumer vulnerability

CPIN

ISO COPOLCO

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This series of The Standards Show looks at how three key standards protect consumers, promote fairness, and tackle real-world challenges, highlighting the UK's leadership in developing them.

  • PAS 7055 - button and coin battery safety
  • ISO 22458 - consumer vulnerability
  • ISO 21800 - clearer online terms and conditions

Developed in association with CPIN and published to coincide with the ISO COPOLCO Annual Meeting in London, bringing together over 120 National Standards Bodies to champion consumer protection worldwide.

In this episode, Matthew speaks to trading standards specialist and CPIN representative Peter Stonely about how ISO 21800 will tackle improving consumer understanding of online terms and conditions.

Series | Consumer protection

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ISO 21800 – online terms and conditions

CPIN

ISO COPOLCO

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The Standards Show - Revisiting ISO/IEC 42001 | AI management systems
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04/22/25 • 39 min

Artificial Intelligence (AI) holds immense promise to transform lives, benefit society, and support a sustainable future. But as AI advances rapidly, it’s crucial to understand what AI is—and isn’t—and how it can be developed and used responsibly.

In this episode, Matthew welcomes back Pauline Norstrom, CEO of AI business Anekanta, to discuss ISO/IEC 42001—the AI management systems standard. Designed to help organizations maximize the benefits of AI while ensuring responsible development, the standard also helps build public trust.

Pauline shares the key features of ISO/IEC 42001, its global adaptability, and its potential to bring structure to the “wild west” of AI. She also reflects on the shifts in the global AI landscape since December 2023, including major policy moves in the US, China, Europe, and the UK - and offers insights into what’s next for AI and standards development.

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ISO/IEC 42001

AI and standards

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The Standards Show - BSI Healthcare Week 2025

BSI Healthcare Week 2025

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05/14/25 • 11 min

BSI Healthcare Week 2025 takes place from 9–13 June, featuring five webinars focused on the key challenges and developments shaping healthcare and MedTech. The event is designed for professionals across the sector - including manufacturers, providers, and policymakers - looking for clear, practical insight in a fast-moving landscape.

In this episode, Matthew talks to Lena Cordie-Bancroft, BSI’s Healthcare Sector Lead, about why the event was created, what each session will cover, and how the topics were chosen. They also discuss the speakers involved, who the event is for, and what attendees can expect to gain from the week.

  • 9 June - Digital and AI in healthcare
  • 10 June - PFAS phase out and its impact on medical devices
  • 11 June - Regulatory update - what's happening in the world of medical devices
  • 12 June - Circularity of healthcare
  • 13 June - The power of in silico trials: AI, innovation and its impact on healthcare

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The Standards Show - Sizegiver

Sizegiver

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05/13/23 • 72 min

This special episode of the podcast is an in-depth conversation with Corinne Quin, lecturer in design at Goldsmiths, University of London.

Matthew speaks to her about sizegiver - an art and design project which explores the use of standards in an unusual and interesting way.

A sizegiver is an object placed into a photograph to enable judgement of another object’s size or scale. They are mass-produced, designed and standardized objects, which are iconic and familiar, but also commonplace.

Examples of sizegivers include coins, bottle caps, paperclips, matchsticks, coke cans, or golf balls. They create object-object relationships, which communicate scale faster than a ruler, but are are often strange, playful and unusual.

Corinne explains how sizegiving is becoming an international visual shorthand to describe the meaning of images, tell stories and bring together communities.

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Sizegiver

Instagram @sizegiver

Department of Design | Goldsmiths

ISO 7304 | Boiling pasta

BSI Student Research Programme

Press conference episode | Submit a question

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The Standards Show - Audiobook | CSN Report - Carbon Management Standards
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03/26/25 • 30 min

The Commonwealth is a voluntary association of 56 independent and equal countries. It is home to 2.7 billion people and includes both advanced economies and developing countries. 33 of its members are small states, including many island nations. It’s member governments agree to shared goals like democracy, trade and development.

The Commonwealth Standards Network (CSN) was established in 2018 to promote the use of standards to boost trade and development in low and middle-income Commonwealth countries. The UK Government helps fund CSN activities via its International Development budget and the programme delivery is managed by BSI.

The CSN collaborates with National Standards Bodies (NSBs) - from throughout the Commonwealth – helping to improve the services they offer to their stakeholders to enhance the effective use of standards, leading to economic, sustainability and society benefit.

This episode of The Standards Show is an audio-abridged version of a CSN Report: Carbon Management Standards - Supporting Sustainable Infrastructure and Reducing Costs.

As nations work toward climate goals and economic growth, carbon management has emerged as a crucial tool for achieving a net-zero economy while enhancing cost efficiency. Commonwealth countries face diverse economic and geographical challenges in implementing standardized approaches to infrastructure development. By adopting consistent carbon management standards, waste can be minimized, costs reduced, and sustainability reinforced, ultimately strengthening economic resilience.

Series | Audiobooks

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CSN Report | Carbon Management Standards

Commonwealth Standards Network

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The Standards Show - My Favourite Standard

My Favourite Standard

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02/22/23 • 31 min

One of the most loved features of The Standards Show is My Favourite Standard, where people share their professional and personal stories about why a particular standard means so much to them.

In this episode Matthew and Cindy welcome 8 storytellers from around the world - from Bristol, to Brussels, to Bolivia.

Telling stories about very 8 very different standards, from one for pavements to one for plastic pellets.

And on 8 very different themes, from consumer vulnerability to caring for an ageing society.

  • Amanda McCarthy - ISO 22000 – food safety management
  • Gavin Jones - BS 7533-101 - pavements
  • Deborah Wautier – EN 1078 – cycling helmets
  • Aristea Kyriakati - IEC 60601-2-4 - defibrillators
  • Stefania Nikolakopoulou - ISO 22458 – consumer vulnerability
  • Andrea Sandi - ISO 17065 – conformity assessment
  • Helena Barrell - ISO 25551 – caring for an ageing society
  • Joanna Griffiths PAS 510 – plastic pellets

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The Standards Show - Inclusive Service Kitemark Series | Power NI
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06/05/23 • 9 min

The BSI Inclusive Service Kitemark combines the best practice from the international standard ISO 22458 for consumer vulnerability and the requirements of some of the UK’s leading regulatory bodies. It was created to help consumers have confidence in services when they need them most and to allow organizations to demonstrate their best inclusive service practices.

In this series, Matthew speaks to organizations who have been certified to the Inclusive Service Kitemark. They describe the operational improvements they made to achieve the Kitemark. What achieving the Kitemark means in terms of delivering positive outcomes for consumers. And the advice they would give to other organizations wanting to start their own journeys to achieve this Kitemark.

This episode of the series features Power NI – Northern Ireland’s largest electricity supplier, energizing over half a million homes and organizations for almost 90 years. Matthew speaks to Power NI’s CSR Manager Gwyneth Compston about what achieving the Inclusive Service Kitemark means to them.

Series | Inclusive Service Kitemark

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BSI Kitemark for Inclusive Service

BSI Kitemark

ISO 22458 | Consumer vulnerability

Power NI

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The Standards Show - Standards Desk of News | May 2023
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05/26/23 • 6 min

One of the favourite features of the regular episodes of The Standards Show is the Standards Desk of News - news about standards and standards in the news.

So, Matthew and Cindy have brought the Standards Desk of News out into the limelight. And given it a regular monthly episode all of its own.

The Standards Desk of News for May 2023 covers stories on:

  1. New cable ties standard
  2. US standards strategy for critical technologies
  3. Standards and medical devices online course
  4. Public consultation on new gender equality standard

Series | Standards Desk of News

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This series of The Standards Show looks at how three key standards protect consumers, promote fairness, and tackle real-world challenges, highlighting the UK's leadership in developing them.

  • PAS 7055 - button and coin battery safety
  • ISO 22458 - consumer vulnerability
  • ISO 21800 - online terms and conditions

Developed in association with CPIN and published to coincide with the ISO COPOLCO Annual Meeting in London, bringing together over 120 National Standards Bodies to champion consumer protection worldwide.

In this episode, Matthew speaks to Katrina Phillips from the Child Accident Prevention Trust about how PAS 7055 for button and coin battery safety is protecting consumers - especially children - from serious harm.

Series | Consumer protection

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PAS 7055 – button and coin batteries

CPIN

ISO COPOLCO

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FAQ

How many episodes does The Standards Show have?

The Standards Show currently has 193 episodes available.

What topics does The Standards Show cover?

The podcast is about Management, Podcasts, Education and Business.

What is the most popular episode on The Standards Show?

The episode title 'Business Growth Toolkit Series | Innovation management' is the most popular.

What is the average episode length on The Standards Show?

The average episode length on The Standards Show is 32 minutes.

How often are episodes of The Standards Show released?

Episodes of The Standards Show are typically released every 9 days.

When was the first episode of The Standards Show?

The first episode of The Standards Show was released on Jun 30, 2020.

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