
Unmixer: Loop Extraction with Repetition, with Dr. Jordan Smith and Tim de Reuse
08/24/20 • 60 min
Music technology PhD Candidate Tim de Reuse recommends “Unmixer: An Interface for Extracting and Remixing Loops” by Jordan Smith,Yuta Kawasaki, and Masataka Goto, published in the proceedings of ISMIR 2019. Tim and Finn interview Jordan about the origins of this project, the algorithm behind the loop extraction, the importance of repetition in music, and the creative and playful applications of Unmixer.
Note: This conversation was recorded in December 2019. Techically issues with some tracks contributed to delays. Apologies for the choppy audio quality.
Time Stamps- [0:01:40] Project Summary
- [0:05:05] Demonstration of Unmixer
- [0:14:27] Origins of the UnMixer project
- [0:19:44] Factorisation algorithm
- [0:28:37] Computational and musical objectives for factorisation
- [0:36:15] The Unmixer web interface
- [0:41:30] 2nd Demonstration, parameters and track selection
- [0:49:13] What Unmixer tells us about music
- Recommended article:
- Smith, J, Kawasaki, Y, & Goto, M. (2019) Unmixer: An Interface for Extracting and Remixing Loops. Proceedings of 20th ISMIR meeting, Delft Netherlands.
- UnMixer website: https://unmixer.ongaaccel.jp/
- Project webpage
- Interviewee: Dr. Jordan BL Smith, Research Scientist at Tik Tok.Website, twitter
- Co-host: PhD Candidate Tim de Reuse, website, twitter
- Papers cited in the discussion:
- Smith, J. B., & Goto, M. (2018, April). Nonnegative tensor factorization for source separation of loops in audio. In 2018 IEEE International Conference on Acoustics, Speech and Signal Processing (ICASSP) (pp. 171-175). IEEE.
- Schmidhuber, J. (2009). Simple algorithmic theory of subjective beauty, novelty, surprise, interestingness, attention, curiosity, creativity, art, science, music, jokes. Journal of SICE, 48(1).
- Rafii, Z., & Pardo, B. (2012). Repeating pattern extraction technique (REPET): A simple method for music/voice separation. IEEE transactions on audio, speech, and language processing, 21(1), 73-84.
- Music sampled:
- Daft Punk, Random Access Memories (2013): Doing it Right (ft. Panda Bear)
- Martin Solveig & Dragonette, Smash (2011): Hello – Single Edit
- Mura Masa, Soundtrack To a Death (2014): I’ve Never Felt So Good
- Other references:
- Madeon’s Adventure Machine
- Chocolate Rain by Tay Zonday
The So Strangely Podcast is produced by Finn Upham, 2020. The closing music includes a sample of Diana Deutsch’s Speech-Song Illusion sound demo 1.
Music technology PhD Candidate Tim de Reuse recommends “Unmixer: An Interface for Extracting and Remixing Loops” by Jordan Smith,Yuta Kawasaki, and Masataka Goto, published in the proceedings of ISMIR 2019. Tim and Finn interview Jordan about the origins of this project, the algorithm behind the loop extraction, the importance of repetition in music, and the creative and playful applications of Unmixer.
Note: This conversation was recorded in December 2019. Techically issues with some tracks contributed to delays. Apologies for the choppy audio quality.
Time Stamps- [0:01:40] Project Summary
- [0:05:05] Demonstration of Unmixer
- [0:14:27] Origins of the UnMixer project
- [0:19:44] Factorisation algorithm
- [0:28:37] Computational and musical objectives for factorisation
- [0:36:15] The Unmixer web interface
- [0:41:30] 2nd Demonstration, parameters and track selection
- [0:49:13] What Unmixer tells us about music
- Recommended article:
- Smith, J, Kawasaki, Y, & Goto, M. (2019) Unmixer: An Interface for Extracting and Remixing Loops. Proceedings of 20th ISMIR meeting, Delft Netherlands.
- UnMixer website: https://unmixer.ongaaccel.jp/
- Project webpage
- Interviewee: Dr. Jordan BL Smith, Research Scientist at Tik Tok.Website, twitter
- Co-host: PhD Candidate Tim de Reuse, website, twitter
- Papers cited in the discussion:
- Smith, J. B., & Goto, M. (2018, April). Nonnegative tensor factorization for source separation of loops in audio. In 2018 IEEE International Conference on Acoustics, Speech and Signal Processing (ICASSP) (pp. 171-175). IEEE.
- Schmidhuber, J. (2009). Simple algorithmic theory of subjective beauty, novelty, surprise, interestingness, attention, curiosity, creativity, art, science, music, jokes. Journal of SICE, 48(1).
- Rafii, Z., & Pardo, B. (2012). Repeating pattern extraction technique (REPET): A simple method for music/voice separation. IEEE transactions on audio, speech, and language processing, 21(1), 73-84.
- Music sampled:
- Daft Punk, Random Access Memories (2013): Doing it Right (ft. Panda Bear)
- Martin Solveig & Dragonette, Smash (2011): Hello – Single Edit
- Mura Masa, Soundtrack To a Death (2014): I’ve Never Felt So Good
- Other references:
- Madeon’s Adventure Machine
- Chocolate Rain by Tay Zonday
The So Strangely Podcast is produced by Finn Upham, 2020. The closing music includes a sample of Diana Deutsch’s Speech-Song Illusion sound demo 1.
Previous Episode

Scale Degree Qualia in Context with Prof. Claire Arthur and Dr. David Baker
In western classical music, theorists have long argued (and mostly agreed) that individual notes of the major and minor scale have sensations associated, feelings often described in terms of tension, motion, sadness, and stability. Dr Baker recommends Prof. Clair Arthur’s paper “A perceptual study of scale-degree qualia in context” from Music Perception (2018) which describes testing these associations through the subjective reports of musicians and non-musicians when presented scale degrees in different harmonic contexts. Together we discuss the challenges of the probe tone paradigm, interactions of musicianship training and perception of tonality, and ambiguity in note qualia perception.
Time Stamps- [0:00:10] Introductions
- [0:02:40] Summary of Paper
- [0:09:50] Origins and Experiment 1 – free association
- [0:16:57] Experiment 2 – probe tone ratings
- [0:23:25] Results and surprises
- [0:28:59] Inconsistency in qualia reports
- [0:34:20] Stimulus examples and experiment limitations
- [0:41:21] Implications of findings
- [0:50:43] Using Musically trained participants
- [0:53:51] Closing summary
- Recommended article:
- Arthur, C. (2018). A perceptual study of scale-degree qualia in context. Music Perception: An Interdisciplinary Journal, 35(3), 295-314
- Interviewee: Prof. Claire Arthur of Georgia Tech University
- Co-host: Dr. David Baker, Lead Instructor of Data Science at the Flatiron School
- David Huron’s Sweet Anticipation, 2006 from MIT Press
The So Strangely Podcast is produced by Finn Upham, 2020. The closing music includes a sample of Diana Deutsch’s Speech-Song Illusion sound demo 1.
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