
44: Jealousy, Envy and Spite In Sales
08/29/17 • 9 min
Jealousy, Envy and Spite In Sales
Sales is a tough enough job without having additional complications. Clients can be very demanding, often we depend on logistics departments and production divisions, to get the purchase to the buyer. We can’t control the quality, but we have total responsibility, as far as the client is concerned. There is the constant pressure of revenue results, with bosses always pushing hard on the numbers.
If we are successful and we are doing well, you would think that life would be good. We know the emotional roller coaster that is the sales life and you are only ever as good as your last deal. So, with a little bit of success should come some respite from the turmoil of hitting the numbers. No such luck!
Our colleagues, by definition, cannot all be equally successful. The Pareto Principle says that the top 20% of salespeople will account for 80% of the revenue numbers. So that means the other 80% of the team are scrambling around for the remaining 20% of the sales. People come into sales from different backgrounds, with different levels of experience, with degrees of motivation and they join at certain points in the annual results cycle. This means that some will be in the top group, a chunk will be in the middle and the rest are at the bottom.
In the West, the usual way sales teams are managed is based on the Darwinian theory of the survival of the fittest. Those who can’t cut it are cut loose. Those who can continue to produce get to stay. If they can survive a couple of recessions, they may even be moved up into management positions. This means that those at the bottom are basically on their own. This should spur them on to greater efforts to move up the sales ranks and to strike for the top position in the sales results table. Yet often this doesn’t happen.
In Japan, most salespeople are on a salary and bonus structure, rather than salary and commission. Almost nobody is on 100% commission arrangements. This means the financial ambition to get ahead in sales is not as strong as we see in the West. Often the base salaries are large by foreign standards and so people can live on the base.
In some cases, there can be pushback against the top salespeople, by those failing, because the successful are making everyone else look bad. Snide comments can be made, negative inferences drawn and a host of other petty signals that says “we don’t like you”. This is driven by jealousy and envy. This is their “the way to build the tallest building in town, is to tear down all the taller buildings” approach to greatness.
In a small sales team this can be very uncomfortable. There is a degree of mutual cooperation involved in sales teams and this is usually where the disputes arise. Who owns the client, who owns the deal, and how is the revenue going to be split up?
If the sales politicians in the firm get going they can really do damage to the morale of the organisation. These people are usually excellent at whining, gathering whiners together and hosting whine parties. They use their energy to pull down those who are successful, instead of trying to become a success themselves.
When you are the top performer or if you are in the top ranks, you can feel you have become a target. Instead of just worrying about getting sales done, you now have to waste precious energy walking around on egg shells, to avoid criticism from your colleagues. This is kept below the radar, so the boss is often unaware of what is really going on. However, often they don’t care anyway. They are looking for numbers and they don’t want to have to deal with sales soap operas in the office.
If the bosses are any good, they would be sorting out the toxic few, but often they don’t. The top salespeople are razor focused on serving clients and doing all the hard yards needed to get the sale, so they are not politically minded. The whole mess gets made worse because in the current climate, organisations are looking at their salesperson retain strategies. They do this because they know they cannot recruit enough salespeople replacements. This means the internal war goes on for much longer that it should. We lose sight of the external competition and fight amongst ourselves.
Bosses – sack the toxic! If you don’t, you will find the whole organisation will start failing as the wrong culture takes command. For top salespeople, insulate and isolate yourself from losers. They don’t work as hard or as long, so there is plenty of opportunity to get into the work, without having to engage with them much. Winners start early and concentrate on their Golden Time – 9.00am-5.00pm.
This is when we can see clients for meetings and create business. All of the administrivia needs to be fitted in around those hours. Writing proposals, holding sales meetings, collecting data, putting together sales information, recording activities in the CRM, etc., are what h...
Jealousy, Envy and Spite In Sales
Sales is a tough enough job without having additional complications. Clients can be very demanding, often we depend on logistics departments and production divisions, to get the purchase to the buyer. We can’t control the quality, but we have total responsibility, as far as the client is concerned. There is the constant pressure of revenue results, with bosses always pushing hard on the numbers.
If we are successful and we are doing well, you would think that life would be good. We know the emotional roller coaster that is the sales life and you are only ever as good as your last deal. So, with a little bit of success should come some respite from the turmoil of hitting the numbers. No such luck!
Our colleagues, by definition, cannot all be equally successful. The Pareto Principle says that the top 20% of salespeople will account for 80% of the revenue numbers. So that means the other 80% of the team are scrambling around for the remaining 20% of the sales. People come into sales from different backgrounds, with different levels of experience, with degrees of motivation and they join at certain points in the annual results cycle. This means that some will be in the top group, a chunk will be in the middle and the rest are at the bottom.
In the West, the usual way sales teams are managed is based on the Darwinian theory of the survival of the fittest. Those who can’t cut it are cut loose. Those who can continue to produce get to stay. If they can survive a couple of recessions, they may even be moved up into management positions. This means that those at the bottom are basically on their own. This should spur them on to greater efforts to move up the sales ranks and to strike for the top position in the sales results table. Yet often this doesn’t happen.
In Japan, most salespeople are on a salary and bonus structure, rather than salary and commission. Almost nobody is on 100% commission arrangements. This means the financial ambition to get ahead in sales is not as strong as we see in the West. Often the base salaries are large by foreign standards and so people can live on the base.
In some cases, there can be pushback against the top salespeople, by those failing, because the successful are making everyone else look bad. Snide comments can be made, negative inferences drawn and a host of other petty signals that says “we don’t like you”. This is driven by jealousy and envy. This is their “the way to build the tallest building in town, is to tear down all the taller buildings” approach to greatness.
In a small sales team this can be very uncomfortable. There is a degree of mutual cooperation involved in sales teams and this is usually where the disputes arise. Who owns the client, who owns the deal, and how is the revenue going to be split up?
If the sales politicians in the firm get going they can really do damage to the morale of the organisation. These people are usually excellent at whining, gathering whiners together and hosting whine parties. They use their energy to pull down those who are successful, instead of trying to become a success themselves.
When you are the top performer or if you are in the top ranks, you can feel you have become a target. Instead of just worrying about getting sales done, you now have to waste precious energy walking around on egg shells, to avoid criticism from your colleagues. This is kept below the radar, so the boss is often unaware of what is really going on. However, often they don’t care anyway. They are looking for numbers and they don’t want to have to deal with sales soap operas in the office.
If the bosses are any good, they would be sorting out the toxic few, but often they don’t. The top salespeople are razor focused on serving clients and doing all the hard yards needed to get the sale, so they are not politically minded. The whole mess gets made worse because in the current climate, organisations are looking at their salesperson retain strategies. They do this because they know they cannot recruit enough salespeople replacements. This means the internal war goes on for much longer that it should. We lose sight of the external competition and fight amongst ourselves.
Bosses – sack the toxic! If you don’t, you will find the whole organisation will start failing as the wrong culture takes command. For top salespeople, insulate and isolate yourself from losers. They don’t work as hard or as long, so there is plenty of opportunity to get into the work, without having to engage with them much. Winners start early and concentrate on their Golden Time – 9.00am-5.00pm.
This is when we can see clients for meetings and create business. All of the administrivia needs to be fitted in around those hours. Writing proposals, holding sales meetings, collecting data, putting together sales information, recording activities in the CRM, etc., are what h...
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43 Rejection
Rejection
Everyone hates to be rejected, but not many people have this as a fundamental aspect of their work. We ask colleagues for help and they assist, we ask our bosses for advice and they provide it. Buyers though are a different case. They can easily find a million reasons not to buy and unashamedly tell us “no”. The rejection itself is not so much the problem, as is how we respond, how we deal with the rejection.
In Japan, the two areas our clients flag with us for special attention in sales training for their team are around understanding the client’s needs and asking for the order or closing, as it is commonly referred to in sales parlance.
The poor questioning skills are a result of salespeople wanting to tell the buyer a lot of stuff about the features, but not bothering to ask some well designed questions to uncover what their clients need. This in itself will explain a lot about why buyers say “no”. If we don’t properly understand what they need, then how do we suggest solutions that make sense and motivate the buyer to action?
The two problems are closely linked. Even assuming that the questions are well thought through and that the solution selected is professionally conveyed to the buyer, they may still say no. This is because the buyer’s hesitations have not been properly addressed. There was something unclear or unsatisfactory in what they just heard from the salesperson and they are not convinced this is the right solution to their problem.
This is why a “no” will certainly be forthcoming, especially from Japanese buyers. Risk aversion is a fundamental part of the fabric of Japan and buyers more than most, observe this in distinct detail. They would rather give up on something better, if they thought there was a possibility their decision might bring some stain on their record.
Failure is hard to recover from in Japan. There are no second chances here. People have learnt the best way to avoid failing is to take as few decisions as possible. Especially any decisions which can be traced back to you. Best to have a group decision, so the blame can be spread around and no one loses their job. Actually that works like a charm here, so no one wants to buck the system
Having given the sales presentation, many salespeople in Japan simply don’t ask for the order. They get to the end of their spiel and they just leave it there. The buyer is not asked for a decision, it is left vague on purpose, so that if it is a “no” then that will not have to be dealt with directly. The Japanese language is genius for having circles within circles of subtle obfuscation.
The end result is a “no” but nobody ever has to say it or hear it. To get a sale happening, the buyer has to do all the work here in Japan, because the salespeople don’t want commit, to take the plunge and ask for the order. If they get a “no”, their feelings of self worth are impacted, they feel depressed, that they are failing. Not doing fully competent work or being highly productive, yet keeping you job is a pretty safe bet in most Japanese companies. The level of productivity amongst white collar workers is dismally low. Collective responsibility helps because it lessens the impact of personal inability to reach targets or make deadlines.
Sales though is totally crystal clear about success and failure. It is very hard to argue with numbers – you either made the target or you didn’t. Sales is also a numbers game. You are not going to hit a homerun every time, so the number of times becomes important.
You will have certain ratios of success that apply right through the sales value chain and the only way to increase your sales, is to improve these ratios. You have to up the ante, regarding the volume of activity. This sounds easy, but it isn’t when you are feeling depressed, insecure and plummeting in confidence.
The key is to see sales in a different way. The increased volume of activity will even out the rejections. The way you think about rejection has to change. Rejection isn’t about you personally. Buyers don’t care that much about salespeople as people. They are rejecting your offer. As it is made today. In this part of the budget process. At this point in the economic cycle. In this current construction. At this price, with these terms. We haven’t shown enough value yet, to get a “yes’.
As these aspects change, the answer can go from a “yes” to a “no” and from a “no” to a “yes”. That decision is irrelevant of the salesperson and how the buyer feels about them. These are macro and micro factors which can impact the decision one way or another. The answer is to see more people. In that way you can have a better chance of meeting a buyer for whom all the stars align and they can say “yes”.
At the same time, you need to keep working on getting better, at showing more value. You need to harden up and become tougher. Whatever you are selling, you ...
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45: Boozing Your Way To Sales Success In Japan
Boozing Your Way To Sales Success in Japan
A LinkedIn post I read recorded how an American sales guy got off the booze and the client entertainment rat race. It got a lot of coverage and comment because it obviously struck a chord with many fellow salespeople. It got me thinking about the same conundrum for those of us selling in Japan.
This is a tricky issue here because, traditionally, so much client entertainment was involved. “I gave my liver for my company” is a common refrain amongst Japanese salespeople. The other one is “I gave up my weekends for golf with the client”. What about foreigners selling here? Do we have to donate our liver to the cause and get divorced, because we are never spending any time with the family?
There is a difference between bribing the buyer through entertainment and having a business relationship. I think we can provide a quality service and leave it at the professional level. You might be spending your evenings wining and dining the buyer, but every couple of years they rotate positions within the company and your guy has moved on.
Also, depending on the sector where you are working, your “guy”, could well be a “gal” these days and being taken out by you, may be of very little interest. Younger people value their private time more than previous generations and don’t necessarily want to be spending it with salespeople.
If we concentrate on providing a reliable and quality service, then we can make sales here. We can have a business relationship that doesn’t have to cross the boundaries of bribery to get the business. I have noticed some firms in Japan are applying a stricter compliance aspect to their dealing with vendors and typical client visit gifts are being refused. I visited Mazda recently and took some cookies for the people we were visiting and they politely, but very firmly, rejected receiving the gift. In the finance business, compliance rules are very strict and staff entertainment is very carefully monitored.
For many Japanese companies, the good old days of big expense accounts for staff have gone. When I was visiting Japan from Australia to sell in the 1980s and 1990s, I thought I was a really popular guy with my Japanese clients. Every visit, everyone wanted to take me out at night to restaurants and night clubs. We would have our sales meeting and they would say, “What are you doing tonight” and then the invitation would be extended. I was a slow learner. I eventually realized, rather than my considerable charm being the draw card , I was the excuse these guys needed to have a great night out on the town on the company’s dime.
Golf is also a killer here. The travelling distance to and from the course sucks up time. The game tee off isn’t until 9.00am after you had your obligatory coffee, then there is the hour for lunch, then the obligatory bath afterwards, then dinner together. There goes the whole day and night. Sadly, if you are a hacker like me, you hardly see anyone on the links anyway. You are hunting for your ball in the rough all the time. I found I only occasionally bumped into people in my party when we had the tee off or when doing the putting on the green. I thought “so much for the networking, relationship building opportunity!”. It is very hard to justify the time these days, given the demands of business. Yes, it is always pleasant to get out of the city and enjoy some nature, but can we really justify the time anymore.
Lunches are a good way to get to know people. Usually, they are booze free or are imbibed in very moderate amounts. The infamous Australian contribution to Tokyo culture, the B&B (Beefsteak and Burgundy Club) long luncheon monthly gathering on Fridays would be the exception. It may seem an anachronism in this modern age, but it still has diehard fans who keep it going. Usually though, we can get together with the client for a lunch and get to know each other a bit better. The check is often split these days, again because of compliance regulations. Breakfasts are not big with Japanese clients, usually because they are traveling long distances in the morning to get to work. Your 7.30am breakfast probably means for them a 5.30am departure from home to get there in time.
Rather than trying to buy business through entertainment, we can do very well here in Japan, if we concentrate on being the best at satisfying the buyer’s needs. Ultimately the person being entertained has to answer to their boss and the latter is all about results. Their interest in their staff ‘s good times being paid for by us is minimal.
Understand the client’s real needs, deliver value, follow up, do what you say you will and clients here will continue to do business with you. Your liver will thank you!
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