
The Counselor and the Farmer: Autumn Setzler and Isaac Manobla
03/22/22 • 39 min
Lily connects with Autumn and Ike in their home in Del Norte, Colorado. Autumn is in graduate school to be a counselor and shares about how she decided to take this path and what it means to her, AND how she balances her work and studies with adventure and creativity. Ike manages a small organic farm in the Foothills of the San Luis Valley with his two partners, does landscaping work, and helps to put on tons of community events like the local farmers market, an annual music festival, harvest festival and bike race.
Lily connects with Autumn and Ike in their home in Del Norte, Colorado. Autumn is in graduate school to be a counselor and shares about how she decided to take this path and what it means to her, AND how she balances her work and studies with adventure and creativity. Ike manages a small organic farm in the Foothills of the San Luis Valley with his two partners, does landscaping work, and helps to put on tons of community events like the local farmers market, an annual music festival, harvest festival and bike race.
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Link the full poem, Famous by Naomi Shihab Nye, which Lily shares a segment of in the episode intro: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/47993/famous
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Allen Berger is Wendy's husband/Lily's uncle.
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