
Episode 5: Work Smarter, Not Harder: When to Let Go & Outsource
11/21/24 • 25 min
In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, attorneys and moms Lacey and Lauren dive into the important topic of outsourcing, both in business and home life. The episode begins with a brief Q&A about probate records, explaining that wills are public records and heirs should receive notice from the court when they're named in a will.
They then share their experiences with business outsourcing, emphasizing how although hiring staff and delegating tasks, such as marketing, can be scary for small business owners, it often leads to increased profitability and better work-life balance. Lauren discusses how hiring a paralegal has allowed her firm to bill more hours, while Lacey shares how bringing on an associate attorney has helped her return to doing work she enjoys, like bond court. They also stress the importance of treating staff well and creating an open, family-like office environment where employees feel comfortable discussing personal challenges.
Lacey and Lauren also discuss outsourcing in personal life, particularly as working moms. Both advocate for letting go of guilt associated with hiring house cleaners, ordering takeout, or paying for lawn care, emphasizing that outsourcing household tasks allows them to spend more quality time with their families. Consider outsourcing when possible and recommend supporting small local businesses when doing so!
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In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, attorneys and moms Lacey and Lauren dive into the important topic of outsourcing, both in business and home life. The episode begins with a brief Q&A about probate records, explaining that wills are public records and heirs should receive notice from the court when they're named in a will.
They then share their experiences with business outsourcing, emphasizing how although hiring staff and delegating tasks, such as marketing, can be scary for small business owners, it often leads to increased profitability and better work-life balance. Lauren discusses how hiring a paralegal has allowed her firm to bill more hours, while Lacey shares how bringing on an associate attorney has helped her return to doing work she enjoys, like bond court. They also stress the importance of treating staff well and creating an open, family-like office environment where employees feel comfortable discussing personal challenges.
Lacey and Lauren also discuss outsourcing in personal life, particularly as working moms. Both advocate for letting go of guilt associated with hiring house cleaners, ordering takeout, or paying for lawn care, emphasizing that outsourcing household tasks allows them to spend more quality time with their families. Consider outsourcing when possible and recommend supporting small local businesses when doing so!
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If you have a question for The Lawmas, email [email protected]
#podcast #legalmoms #thelawmas #outsourcing
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Episode 4: The Lawmas and Juggling Families and Clients
This week, Lauren and Lacey talk about the challenges of being both a mom and a lawyer, dealing with difficult children and clients.
Lacey shares frustrations over her young son's frequent tantrums and refusal to listen, contrasting his behavior with her client's inability to make decisions about their criminal case. Lauren relates similar experiences with her own young daughters, noting how children can behave worse for their parents than others.
They commiserate over how the stresses of their jobs dealing with difficult personalities can exacerbate the challenges at home. Lauren and Lacey are very grateful for having supportive partners, both at work and in their personal lives, to help them through these trying times. Having someone who can step in when they've reached their limit with a client or child provides much-needed relief.
Lauren & Lacey agree that running on caffeine gets them through many of these tough days juggling parenting and lawyering!
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Episode 6: The Susan Smith Case, After the Parole Hearing
In this episode of the The Lawmas podcast, hosts Lacey and Lauren discuss Susan Smith's recent parole hearing, where she was denied release after serving time for murdering her two sons in 1994. Lacey & Lauren dive into the details of the hearing, highlighting key moments and reasons for her parole denial, including her lack of family support and multiple infractions while incarcerated.
The discussion focuses on critical aspects of the parole hearing, such as Smith's legal representation, her responses to questioning, and the testimony from the victims' family. Notable speakers included David Smith (the children's father), his wife, and his daughter, who powerfully spoke about the lasting impact of the tragedy. The hosts emphasized the importance of taking accountability and showing genuine remorse during parole hearings.
Lacey and Lauren explore the legal nuances of parole in South Carolina, noting that before 1996, life sentences came with the possibility of parole. They discuss Smith's ability to reapply for parole every two years and share their perspectives on what might improve her chances in future hearings, including the need for more transparency about her mental health treatment and a more compelling narrative of personal growth and accountability.
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