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The Inner Game of Change

The Inner Game of Change

Ali Juma

Welcome to The Inner Game of Change Podcast where we focus on exploring the multi layers of managing organisational change effectively. Our guests cover a diverse number of critical topics to enable change adoption including communication, leadership, training, change practice, process design, change capability and much more. Check out our episodes on www.theinnergameofchange.com.au

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The Inner Game of Change - E64 - AI Change by Design for Impact - Podcast with Sarah Kaur
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05/01/24 • 44 min

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Welcome to the Inner Game of Change Podcast, where I explore the intricate layers of organizational change alongside insightful professionals.
Today I welcome Sarah Kaur, a Design Thinking Practitioner at the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (CSIRO's) Data61. With a robust background, Sarah brings over a decade of experience collaborating across disciplines to embed human-centric design in machine learning and AI research.
Her work focuses on Responsible AI, striving to enhance policy and consumer experiences through ethical and technically sound AI applications. Sarah's dedication shines through in her projects.
Today, Sarah and I go through the rabbit hole of AI design for impact exploring the intersection of creativity, ethics, and technology.
I am grateful to have Sarah chatting with me today.
About Sarah (In her own words)
Sarah Kaur is a strategic designer and HCD researcher. Her passion is supporting the creative work of teams across disciplines to collaborate, and come up with smart ways to create impact through using participatory design. She now works as a Design Thinking Practitioner at CSIRO's Data61, where she focusses on research into Responsible AI, and embedding human insight in machine learning and AI research and product development.
Sarah realises both the incredible potential for AI to support positive outcomes in policy and consumer experiences, and the lack of awareness about appropriate ethical, and technical governance in the AI space.
She holds a Master of Business Analytics and a Bachelor in Fine Arts, and 12 years of professional experience supporting NFP, Government and Private organisations realise their business objectives by placing humans and quality data, at the centre of their decisions and investments. Sarah has designed and led stakeholder engagements on projects delivering algorithmic decision-making models to users. This includes Australia’s Family Court’s first machine learning product amïca, helping couples separate by automating a two-party workflow to gather data, and suggesting a fair division of assets for their agreement.
Prior to becoming a strategic designer, Sarah was a video artist working with dancemakers, and a curator and artistic producer for multidisciplinary festivals. Making a tough choice between staying an arts professional and a sustainable income meant a career change and an entry into the world of digital. She joined Tundra as a Digital Producer, and later Portable to lead the Production team and becoming the Chief of Operations and Strategy, Head of Account Management before founding the Business Design discipline.
Sarah is on the Australian Red Cross Humanity First Advisory Panel to support the development of a humanitarian framework to guide ethical technology development.
Contact Sarah
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linkedin.com/in/sarah-tamara-kaur

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The Inner Game of Change - E63 - Mastering The Change Experience - Podcast with Andrew Butow
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04/17/24 • 54 min

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Welcome to the Inner Game of Change Podcast, where I explore the intricate layers of organizational change alongside insightful professionals.

Today, my guest is Andrew Butow; a change catalyst in the truest sense. As the founder and CEO of Earth2Mars, Andrew has dedicated his career to assisting organizations and individuals in understanding and navigating the complexities of change. With his expertise, Andrew brings a unique and invaluable perspective on how to thrive in an ever-evolving business landscape.

Andrew's passion for people-centric change and his hands-on approach have made him an influential figure in shaping future work environments for clients.
In this episode, Andrew and I have covered few key topics including the evolution of the change management profession, the healthy 'discomfort' we all need, the change experiences we would like to drive and many other topics including the GenAI capability.
I have learned so much from Andrew here. I hope you do too.
I am grateful to have Andrew chatting with me today.
About Andrew (In His own words)
As a change facilitator, I help businesses navigate the complex and ever-changing landscape of the future of work. With a focus on people-centric change, I work with organizations to define, plan, and execute change initiatives that achieve real outcomes through systemic alignment of people, processes, and technology.
With experience in HR, learning and development, coaching, and change initiatives, I bring a unique blend of consulting, design thinking, and behavioural science to any challenge. Some of my key achievements include co-founding Earth2Mars, working with leading brands like QBE and Lend Lease, and leading a project stream on the world's largest SAP/process transformation project with Africa’s energy giant Eskom.
I am passionate about people and believe that true success can only be achieved through people-centric change. I love helping force-for-good organizations, leaders, teams, and individuals shift their mindsets so that they are fully committed and empowered to find their space in the universe, now and in the future, so we can make history.
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LinknedIn
linkedin.com/in/abutow1
Website
earth2mars.com.au (Company)

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The Inner Game of Change - E61 - Laws Of UX For Impactful Change - Podcast with Jon Yablonski
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03/13/24 • 37 min

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Welcome to the Inner Game of Change Podcast, where I explore the intricate layers of organizational change alongside insightful professionals.
Today, my guest is Jon Yablonski; Author, speaker and a distinguished figure in the world of digital design. Jon brings a wealth of knowledge from a dynamic career that spans across e-commerce , mobile apps, and cutting-edge vehicle platforms.
In this episode, we dive into the 'Laws of UX,' psychological principles that shape intuitive and functional user interfaces. Jon discusses the challenges of weaving these principles into digital product design, and the crucial balance between innovative and user-focused design.

We also explore the impact of UX design on managing change, particularly as AI and machine learning become integral to our digital tools. Jon offers his perspective on how these advances are transforming the UX landscape, urging designers to innovate and adapt.
This episode is about the fascinating intersection of design, technology, and the human experience .
I am grateful to have Jon chatting with me today.
About Jon (In his own words)
I’m Jon Yablonski 👋🏼. My passion is designing digital tools that empower people and augment their abilities in order to achieve their goals. I’ve had the opportunity to learn and grow from a variety of challenges throughout my career — from e-commerce platforms, mobile apps and internal products to HMI systems within state-of-the-art vehicle platforms. I’m currently helping the world learn from its data as a Senior Product Designer at Mixpanel. Previously, I worked on the next generation of in-vehicle digital experiences at General Motors.
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The Inner Game of Change - E35 - Bad Change - Podcast with Peter Phan & Gilbert Kruidenier
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10/26/22 • 35 min

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Welcome and thank you for checking in at the Inner Game of Change Podcast where I focus on exploring the multi layers of managing organisational change.

My guests today are Peter Phan and Gilbert Krudenier; Authors and passionate change professionals.

Two great minds who worked together to publish a book Bad Change that is fun, easy to read and full of practical pieces of advice and effective tips to avoid bad change.

In this episode, as well as chatting about their drive to write Bad Change, Peter and Gilbert share their thoughts on better ways to create good change in the workplace.

I am grateful to have Peter and Gilbert chatting with me today.
Topics include

1. The idea behind the book Bad Change

2. The usual change characters in the workplace

3. Characteristics of bad change

4. Are change managers superheroes?

5. What writing a book about change can teach us

6. What change managers need to learn from other practices

7. The value a change manager can add

8. Advice to the change practice community

And much more
About Peter (In his own words)

I simplify the complexities of organisational change into engaging videos and visuals that help to implement and bring change to life. Whether it's an organisation-wide transformation, that key initiative everyone talks about or an overdue IT project, I've helped them all to 'get visual'!

About Gilbert (In his own words)

Change | Quality & Safeguarding | Human Rights | Communication | Helper of people and animals | Proud co-author of "Bad Change - 50 ways Change doesn't work", The Chameleon Cards and Purpose in Practice.

Contacts

Peter Phan

linkedin.com/in/flimpstudios

Website flimpstudios.com (Company)

Gilbert Kruidenier

linkedin.com/in/kruidenierconsulting

Website kruidenierconsulting.com.au (Company)

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The Inner Game of Change - E22 - The Design Thinking Playbook - Podcast with Patrick Link
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02/16/22 • 45 min

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Welcome and thank you for checking in at The Inner Game of Change Podcast where I focus on exploring the multi layers of managing organisational change.

My guests cover a diverse number of critical topics to enable effective and sustainable change in the workplace.

My guest today is Patrick Link; The Editor and co-author of the Amazon bestseller The Design Thinking Playbook.

A professor and co-founder of the Trihow framework, Patrick is a wealth of practical knowledge and thought leadership in the area of Design Thinking.

I am grateful to have Patrick sharing his knowledge and insight with me today.

Topics include:

· What is Design Thinking?

· HIPO vs VOC

· Good testing does not cost much

· Small, big and wicked problems

· Start small but start

· Change practitioners’ seat at the table

· How to make change tangible

· Tear down the silos

and much more...

About Patrick (In His Own Words)

Editor of the two Amazon bestsellers "The Design Thinking Playbook" and "The Design Thinking Toolbook". Both books are available in German and many other languages.
Design Thinking is very well known, and many tools and templates are available, see. e.g. www.dt-toolbook.com/tools or www.leancanvas.ch
However, there is a gap between Design Thinking and agile development. Which are the key tools in this gap, often called "Lean Start-up"? I am looking for an exchange about this gap.
Before Covid-19 all the workshops where analog, during the Corona crisis, all the workshops needed to be done digitally. Analog workshops are not always possible. Digital workshops are not always working. How will the future normality look like? How can we do hybrid workshops?
The hybrid world of Trihow combines ease of use and haptics from the sensory, analog world with the editability and reusability of the efficient digital world.
If you are interested in offering a Bachelor or master thesis in the area of Business Engineering, in particular in product management, innovation or hybrid spaces, please contact me.
Contact

LinkedIn

linkedin.com/in/patrick-link-

Website

hslu.ch/smart-up (Company Website)

leancanvas.ch (Personal Website)

trihow.com/ (Company Website)

Email

[email protected]

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The Inner Game of Change - E21 - Change : Make it Visual - Podcast with Simon Banks
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02/02/22 • 43 min

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Welcome and thank you for checking in at The Inner Game of Change Podcast where I focus on exploring the multi layers of managing organisational change.

My guests cover a diverse number of critical topics to enable effective and sustainable change in the workplace.

My guest today is Simon Banks; An international Keynote Speaker on creativity, innovation & design.

With over 2 decades in the field, Simon discusses the power of visual communication as a key pillar to help communicate and simplify change in the workplace.

I am grateful to have Simon sharing his knowledge and insight with me today.

Topics include:

  1. Primary and secondary memory
  2. Re imagining communication
  3. Make it interesting
  4. Make it human
  5. The power of a visual story
  6. The 4 faces of change
  7. Visualisation tools to use
  8. How to experiment quickly

and much more...

About Simon (In his own words)

I am an Author, Podcaster & International Keynote Speaker on creativity, innovation & design & recovering artist.
I work with large organisations & teams to innovate & design great solutions to big problems.
How? Through embracing modern ways of working reigniting the essential 21st-century skills of imagination, creativity, fresh thinking & curiosity.
I use my creative background across all my work including co-designing strategies, rapidly bringing ideas to life, helping organisations simplify complex problems & communicate ideas
& stories in a way people can connect with.
Creativity; our ability to connect the dots in different ways & think differently has NEVER been more needed. Our ability to imagine new ideas & design new solutions at pace is at the heart of navigating the most curious landscape we are in.
The great news is that this is what humans are designed to do.
Contact
LinkedIn
linkedin.com/in/simonbanksvisualfunk
Websites

simonbanks.com.au (Simon Banks: My personal site)

visualfunk.com.au (VisualFunk)

occupationalphilosohers.com (My Podcast site )
Email
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Welcome and thank you for checking in at the Inner Game of Change Podcast where I focus on exploring the multi layers of managing organisational change.

My guests cover a diverse number of critical topics to enable effective and sustainable change in the workplace.

My guest today is Antonio Nieto-Rodriguez : Antonio is a global champion of project management and author of the "Harvard Business Review Project Management Handbook" which was released late 2021.

As well as discussing his book, Anotnio argues that we are living in a project economy and Projects are the lingua franca of the business and personal worlds from the C-suite to managing your careers.

I am grateful to have Antonio sharing his thoughts on re-imagining project management.
Topics include :

  1. Project Managers need to do 80% of their current practices differently.
  2. How to prepare people for the current project economy
  3. Project Portfolio management
  4. Projects are permanent and operations are temporary
  5. From COO to Chief Projects / Transformation Officer
  6. The gig economy within an organisation
  7. Output trumps input
  8. The battle amongst PM, Agile PM, CM, etc.
  9. The pandemic taught us to be good at prioritisation

and much more.

About Antonio (in his own words)
Antonio Nieto-Rodriguez is the global champion of project management and author of the "Harvard Business Review Project Management Handbook" (HBR 2021) and HBR magazine's featured article "The Project Economy Has Arrived" (Nov 2021), which argues that Projects are the lingua franca of the business and personal worlds from the C-suite to managing your careers.
Antonio’s research and global impact in modern management has been recognized by Thinkers50 with the prestigious award “Ideas into Practice” and is ranked #17 in the global gurus Top 30 list. He is part of Marshall Goldsmith 100 coaches.
He was the global Chairman of the Project Management Institute in 2016 and has been recognized as a Fellow of PMI for his contribution to the project management profession. He led the creation of the Brightline Initiative, founded of Projects & Co, and co-founded the Strategy Implementation Institute. Antonio is also the author of “Lead Successful Projects” (Penguin, 2019), “The Project Revolution” (LID, 2019). and “The Focused Organization” (Taylor&Francis, 2014), and has contributed to seven other books. A pioneer and leading authority in teaching and coaching senior executives the art and science of strategy execution and project management. Currently visiting professor at Duke CE, Instituto de Empresa, Solvay, Vlerick, Ecole des Ponts, and Skolkovo.
He is the Director of the Program Management Office at GlaxoSmithKline Vaccines. Previously he worked as Head of Project Portfolio Management at BNP Paribas Fortis. Prior he was Head of Post-Merger Integration at Fortis Bank, leading the acquisition of ABN AMBRO, the largest in financial service history. He also worked for ten years at PricewaterhouseCoopers, becoming the global lead practitioner for project and change management.
Contact Details

linkedin.com/in/antonionietorodriguez

Websites

E antonio.nieto.rodriguez@gm

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The Inner Game of Change - E68 - Storytelling to Inspire Change - Podcast with Steve Rawling
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07/24/24 • 65 min

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Welcome to the Inner Game of Change Podcast, where I explore the intricate layers of organizational change alongside insightful professionals in the field.
Today, I am thrilled to welcome Steve Rawling: a master storyteller, author, strategic learning facilitator, and leadership development expert.

Drawing from his rich personal experiences, journalistic curiosity, and continuous reflection, Steve has cultivated a value-based approach to helping clients communicate through the art of storytelling. His publications are globally considered among the most effective tools for anyone aspiring to become a storyteller.

In this episode, Steve and I dive into the profound impact of storytelling—how it enriches our experiences, inspires action, and transforms our perspectives.

I am truly grateful to have Steve with me today.

About Steve (In his own story)

It's March 2020 and my order book has shrunk to zero. I was supposed to be in Estonia, speaking at a conference and running workshops with clients. Then Covid killed it all. But hey, I'm a TV journalist - I know how to communicate via a screen. I shifted all my training to Zoom, I rescued 80% of my cancelled work - and new clients started coming in.
2020 has turned into a boom year. I miss working face to face with clients. I miss Meeting-Biscuits and coffee break chats. But I sell stories - and stories work across any medium.
I've spent 30 years telling stories. I've chased people with a camera crew; I've walked through petrol bombs; I've been bitten by a dog once, sworn at many times and welcomed into strangers' homes again and again. All so I could get people to tell their side of the story.
But I was amazed how bad most people were at telling stories when it came to their work. I'd listen to the rehearsed soundbites and the PR spin. Eventually I'd go: "So what you're really saying is... [insert much more interesting story]."
Now I do this for a living. I help people find the great stories that are buried beneath the business-speak. I help them tell simple stories to connect with customers, staff and investors. I work with media companies, designers, innovators, charities, CEOs and universities across Europe.
My book on innovation techniques - Be Creative Now - was published by Pearson Business in 2016 and is translated into Chinese, Russian and Arabic.
Contact
Steve’s Profile
linkedin.com/in/steverawling

Websites
stories-that-work.com (Company)
pipdecks.com/products/storyteller-tactics (Company)

Email
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Welcome to the "Inner Game of Change Podcast," where I explore the intricate layers of organizational change alongside insightful professionals.
In this episode, I am diving into great conversation with Jeroen Kraaijenbrink, a strategy thought leader who recognizes that the journey through organizational change is an emotional roller coaster — a critical aspect often overlooked in the designing and implementation of change.
His well received post on the "Emotional Roller Coaster of Change" sheds light on the turbulent human experience that accompanies any strategic shift. For leaders, acknowledging this emotional landscape is not peripheral; it is central to steering their teams effectively through change.
I am grateful to have Jeroen chatting with me today.
Topics include :

  1. Why is change akin to a roller coaster?
  2. The human dynamics at play during transitional times.
  3. Change is universal and not just at work.
  4. The whole person change empathy.
  5. How to deal with change transition.
  6. The power of people ingenuity during change.
  7. The value of time to "let it simmer" for better adoption results.
  8. Are MVPs effective approaches to introduce change?
  9. Real resistance is a fallacy.

About Jeroen (In his words)
As the leader of your organization, unit or department, you have your goals:
• Serve your customers in the best possible way
• Get and keep your people focused and inspired
• Balance performance and organizational health
• Center on the long-term purpose and continuity
...and a whole lot more
Despite having in mind how you will achieve these goals, unforeseen things always happen that keep you from getting where you want your organization to be. As research shows, no less than two-third of formulated strategy plans fail. To beat these odds, you need an actionable and engaging strategy that your employees and stakeholders believe in.
I help companies generate and execute exactly that type of strategy. Once we work together, I support you in your strategy and leadership skills and help you discover, formulate, and execute the right strategy for your organization. Whether your existing strategy needs to be adjusted, or you need to build it from scratch, there are proven tools and clear steps to follow. Together, we can have a look at where your pain points are and where your moment of opportunity lies.
Based on my combined academic and professional experience, my key strength is turning fragmented ideas and plans into a crisp and coherent strategy that your people will and want to execute.
Let's have a virtual coffee!
Contact Jeroen
LinkedIn
linkedin.com/in/jeroenkraaijenbrink
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The Inner Game of Change - E77 - Highlights From 2024

E77 - Highlights From 2024

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12/26/24 • 116 min

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In this special highlights episode of The Inner Game of Change podcast, we revisit some of the most impactful moments from our top episodes. While every conversation this year has been rich with invaluable insights, these highlights showcase standout lessons and perspectives that have resonated deeply with our audience. Join me as we explore key themes in leadership, change, and transformation.
I am grateful for all of my guests' time, insight and wisdom.
As we wrap up 2024, I want to thank you for being part of The Inner Game of Change. Your support and engagement have made every episode truly meaningful. Wishing you and your loved ones a happy, safe, and restful holiday season. I can’t wait to kick off 2025 with another amazing lineup of guests, creative conversations, and transformative ideas. Until next year, stay well, stay curious, and approach every change with courage and curiosity!
Episodes in this summary include :

E76 - Rethinking Change: From Behavioural Conditioning to Regenerative Transformation - Podcast with Carol Sanford
E75 - Change Journey : Performer to Master - Podcast with Dr Jess Tayel
E73 - Change Leadership In Higher Education - Podcast with Vice Chancellor Professor Theo Farrell
E71 - Winning Against Resistance To Change - Podcast with Dr. David Weiss
E67 - What's Organizational Change Management? - Podcast with Paula Anastasiade
E65 - The Change Management Flywheel - Podcast with Terri Block & Susan Bartlett
E64 - AI Change by Design for Impact - Podcast with Sarah Kaur
E62 - Becoming a Change Maker - Podcast with Alex Budak
E60 - How AI will Revolutionise Change Management - Podcast with Jason Little

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How many episodes does The Inner Game of Change have?

The Inner Game of Change currently has 77 episodes available.

What topics does The Inner Game of Change cover?

The podcast is about Life Sciences, Adoption, Training, Change, Game, Management, Design, Podcasts, Science, Business, Change Management, Project and Communication.

What is the most popular episode on The Inner Game of Change?

The episode title 'E67 - What's Organizational Change Management? - Podcast with Paula Anastasiade' is the most popular.

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The average episode length on The Inner Game of Change is 43 minutes.

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Episodes of The Inner Game of Change are typically released every 14 days, 2 hours.

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The first episode of The Inner Game of Change was released on Apr 7, 2021.

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