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638: Keep Christianity Weird & Lessons from the Church Abuse Scandal with Kristen Kobes Du Mez
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10/09/24 • 89 min
Being a cultural Christian used to be an insult, but more people are embracing the label with pride. The Holy Post crew unpacks what’s behind the growing affection for cultural Christianity, and they explain why it’s more important than ever to embrace the weird, supernatural beliefs of the faith. Historian Kristen Kobes Du Mez is back to discuss her new documentary, “For Our Daughters,” about the sexual abuse scandals that have shaken the faith of many in the church. She sees a link between the theology and culture that created and covered-up sexual abuse in the church, and the rise of political idolatry within evangelicalism. Also this week—hurricanes are now political, and a Haitian pastor in New Hampshire with a sense of humor invites pets to his church.
For Our Daughters Full Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkES4X_qb6c
Holy Post Plus:
Getting Schooled: Debt and Theology 101
https://www.patreon.com/posts/113616129/
0:00 - Intro
1:18 - Show Starts
3:24 - Theme Song
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7:18 - Terry Gilliam’s News of the Butt
10:30 - Haitian Priest Blesses Pets
15:05 - Hurricane Helene
23:02 - Cultural Christianity Michael Bird Article
34:58 - Why Christian Beliefs are Necessary for Christian Virtue
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56:00 - Interview
1:02:26 - How Women are Blamed for Men’s Sins
1:08:47 - Are Churches Better Prepared to Address Sexual Abuse?
1:14:54 - Is the Culture More Likely to Call Out Abuse Now?
1:18:17 - The Link Between January 6 and Sexual Abuse Scandals
1:24:04 - Will There Be a Church Backlash if Kamala Wins?
1:29:04 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in the News Segment:
Thanks to the Litfin Divinity School at Wheaton College for sponsoring our in person events. Learn more at www.wheaton.edu/holypost
Haitian Priest Blesses Pets:
Disaster Relief for Hurricane Helene:
The Rise of Cultural Christianity:
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11/17/21 • 82 min
Are faith and science irreconcilable belief systems? Not according to Dr. Francis Collins, the Director of the National Institutes of Health and founder of BioLogos. He talks with Phil about his journey from atheism to faith, his role in overseeing the country’s response to Covid-19, and why America’s culture war is literally killing people. Collins also explains why the Covid vaccines are safe and should be embraced by Christians as an answer to prayer.
Then, The Council for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood’s attack on a small Texas church backfires, leading to a conversation about God and gendered language. The editor of World Magazine leaves in protest as yet another evangelical institution takes a sharp turn to the right. Are we witnessing the final fury of a dying religious right? Plus, Phil was unknowingly on the Late Show with Stephen Colbert. And, a meaningless archeological discovery in Michigan.
News Segment:
November livestream details [3:41] http://patreon.com/holypost
Archaeological discovery in Michigan [5:21] https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/32486160/the-remarkable-story-man-found-162-bowling-balls-house
Phil on the Late Show [12:24]
Beth Allison Barr and our language for God [14:04]
“The Making of Biblical Womanhood” - https://amzn.to/3oSOVm3 https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-457-paul-power-patriarchy-with-beth-allison-barr
Marvin Olasky and the struggle between evangelicals and fundamentalists [28:52] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/14/business/world-magazine-marvin-olasky-trump.html
https://twitter.com/drantbradley/status/1460273263590916099
Interview with Francis Collins:
Interview Start [49:28] “Language of God” book [52:20] https://amzn.to/3qGHG2P
Response to objections after NIH nomination [55:19]
Science and faith conflicts [57:20]
COVID-19 responses and vaccines [1:00:05]
Legacy as a visible scientist of faith [1:07:23]
Culture wars and the pandemic [1:15:21]
Other resources mentioned:
Biologos: https://biologos.org
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01/15/25 • 90 min
How can we help those impacted by the L.A. wildfires? Because of A.I., climate change, and falling fertility rates, Ezra Klein says we are living “in the age of monsters,” but is he really just upset about Trump? And how is technology fundamentally rewiring our brains to avoid social interaction, and what should we do about it? Phil, Kaitlyn, and Skye offer their suggestions. Then Kaitlyn talks with Wheaton College theology professor Emily McGowin about her new book, “Households of Faith,” and what it means to think of our families formationally rather than formulaically. Also this week—the new Holy Post studio is killer!
0:00 - Show Starts
2:16 - Theme Song
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7:57 - California Wildfires
15:22 - The Time of the Monsters
25:11 - The Time for Churches
31:25 - The Anti-Social Century
39:12 - Tiktok and Lonely Routines
45:25 - Bring Back Youth Group!
51:14 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - This episode is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. Give online therapy a try at https://www.faithfulcounseling.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off
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55:00 - Interview
56:42 - Why Write About Family?
1:00:40 - Discernment and Improvisation
1:08:04 - Family of God
1:16:05 - Sabbath for Fellowship
1:22:31 - Rhythms of Life
1:29:30 - End Credits
Households of Faith: Practicing Family in the Kingdom of God by Emily Hunter McGowin: https://a.co/d/7hd5XIW
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Ezra Klein’s “Now is the Time of the Monsters:”
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/12/opinion/ai-climate-change-low-birth-rates.html
The Anti-Social Century:
Other resources:
Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/
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Episode 527: Does God Want Public Christian Symbols? & Non-Anxious Leadership with Mark Sayers
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09/21/22 • 88 min
A court has ruled that a Christian-owned business is not required to pay for health insurance that includes drugs to prevent HIV. Is the ruling a victory for religious liberty, or a case of Christians unfairly imposing their beliefs on others? In an effort to “bring God back into public schools" Taxes now requires schools to display “In God We Trust” signs. But what happens when the sign is in Arabic? Southern governors are shipping undocumented immigrants North. But is their goal to actually solve the immigration crisis, or are they using vulnerable people for a partisan stunt? Then, pastor and culture-watcher Mark Sayers is back to talk about his new book, “A Non-Anxious Presence.” He says we’ve entered a new cultural era riddled with anxiety and uncertainty that Christian leaders relying on the previous era’s models are not equipped to handle. Drawing from Friedman’s family-systems theory, Sayers argues we must learn to patiently resist the unhealthy people in our communities, endure sabotage, and fundamentally rethink our definitions of success. Plus, annual awards for hilarious scientific achievements.
Patreon Bonus: Christian Asks...Do we actually know what happens the moment we die? https://www.patreon.com/posts/72258893/
News Segment 0:00 - Intro 2:52 - Bizarre scientific awards 11:04 - Religious freedom and health insurance coverage 23:13 - Public Christian symbols 38:39 - Southern governors sending migrants north
Sponsor 58:23 - Sponsor: Abide
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Interview with Mark Sayers “A Non-Anxious Presence: How a Changing and Complex World Will Create a Remnant of Renewed Christian Leaders” - https://amzn.to/3f3wRnO Mark Sayers - https://www.marksayers.co 1:00:18 - Mark Sayers intro 1:02:49 - Anxiety in a gray zone 1:06:26 - Friedman’s systems theory and culture 1:08:35 - How leaders can bring health 1:15:39 - Comfort and escapism 1:22:22 - Leading with God’s presence 1:27:42 - Credits
Articles referenced in news segment: Ig Nobel prize winners - https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/constipation-s-effect-on-scorpion-sex-garners-biology-ig-nobel-70504
“A Texas Judge Just Took Religious ‘Freedom’ Too Far” (Bloomberg) - https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-09-14/texas-prep-drug-ruling-in-braidwood-case-should-be-overturned?
“Southern governor sending migrants north face a crisis of faith” by Jonathan Merritt (Religion News Service) - https://religionnews.com/2022/09/16/southern-governors-sending-migrants-north-face-a-crisis-of-faith/
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11/20/24 • 77 min
After an exhausting year of politics and the re-election of Donald Trump, what is a faithful way for Christians to navigate the next four years? Should we continue to immerse ourselves in political news, or is it better to disconnect from the media? And should Christians join the political fights online, or unplug to better serve our local communities? The Holy Post crew responds to articles by a number of Christians leaders addressing these questions. Then, New Testament scholar, N.T. Wright, is back to discuss the book of Acts. Wright says an understanding of ancient temples is the key to the message of Acts. Also this week—the origin of F-words.
Holy Post Plus Bonus Interview with N. T. Wright: https://www.patreon.com/posts/116319034/
0:00 - Intro
0:38 - Show Starts
1:30 - Theme Song
1:51 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to https://www.SundaysForDogs.com/HOLYPOST or use code HOLYPOST at checkout.
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6:15 - Trump Cabinet Picks and Praying for Leaders
15:33 - Russell Moore on Getting Through the Trump Years
27:20 - Is the Church a Turtle?
33:39 - The Wisdom Literature
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43:30 - Interview
47:18 - The Holy Spirit Before Pentecost?
52:09 - Ananias and Sapphira
56:17 - Why Did Early Christians Still Go to the Temple?
1:04:55 - The Church, Division, and Revelation
1:16:55 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in the News Segment:
Thanks to the Litfin Divinity School at Wheaton College for sponsoring our in person events. Learn more at www.wheaton.edu/holypost
Farming Gave Us “F” and “V”
How to Get Through the Next Four Years: https://www.christianitytoday.com/2024/11/next-four-years-donald-trump-russell-moore-election-2024/?utm_medium=widgetsocial
Go Slow and Repair Things:
https://www.christianitytoday.com/2024/11/go-slow-and-repair-things-evangelicals-diverse-democracy/
All Sides News Source
https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news
Of Time and Turtles: Mending the World, Shell by Shattered Shell: A Heartwarming Compassionate Portrait of Injured Turtles, Perfect for Nature Lovers by Sy Montgomery and Matt Patterson: https://a.co/d/fTEnlVg
Other resources:
The Challenge of Acts: Rediscovering What the Church Was and Is by N. T. Wright: https://a.co/d/exFbNRH
Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/
Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus
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02/14/24 • 89 min
The “He Gets Us” campaign ran a Super Bowl ad showing culture war combatants washing each other’s feet. It has conservative Christians upset and non-Christians confused. Phil, Kaitlyn, and Skye react to the ad and unpack the many ways we misunderstand the meaning of Jesus washing his disciples’ feet. Then, New Testament professor Nijay Gupta is back to discuss his new book “Strange Religion” about what made early Christianity so weird and compelling. He explains what Roman religion looked like before Christianity, and how those pagan values and practices are returning. Plus, Chinese spy pigeons and swearing parrots.
Holy Post Plus
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0:00 - Sponsor - World Relief - Visit https://worldrelief.org/holypost/ to download your family refugee guide and learn more about the Path Community
1:11 - Intro
2:41 - Show Starts
3:29 - Theme Song
3:51 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to www.hiyahealth.com/HOLYPOST to receive 50% off your first order
5:02 - Skye and U2 in Las Vegas
10:27 - Foul-Mouthed Fowls
16:50 - Spies in Disguise as Pigeons
21:40 - Foot-Washing Superbowl Ad
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48:09 - Sponsor - Wheaton Graduate School - Learn in a rich, rigorous Christian environment - www.wheaton.edu/holypost
49:16 - Interview
51:38 - Strange Religion
1:05:31 - What was Roman religion like?
1:13:40 - Modern Pagan Christianity
1:32:15 - End Credits
Links:
Strange Religion: How the First Christians Were Weird, Dangerous, and Compelling: https://a.co/d/1BL9BXf
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09/14/22 • 87 min
The water crisis in Jackson, Mississippi, was foreseeable and preventable. Did white evangelicalism's anti-government attitude contribute to the catastrophe? Washington Post columnist Michael Gerson has yet another take on the evangelical infatuation with Trump. Do we need any more? And a recent article by theologian Kirsten Sanders says we’ve entered a new era of evangelicalism where online influencers are shaping the movement more than pastors or institutions. Then, Skye and Kaitlyn discuss the belief held by some American Christians that the Constitution was inspired by God. Where did this view come from? Why is it dangerous? And why is it finding new popularity today? Plus, Phil plops a headline.
News Segment 0:00 - Intro 4:54 - News of the Butt headline 6:10 - Jackson water crisis 17:52 - Another article on evangelicalism and Trump?
Sponsor 54:22 - Sponsor: Abide Get 25% off a premium Abide subscription by texting “holypost” to 22433
Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess 55:40 - Getting Schooled intro 57:57 - Divine inspiration of the Constitution - overview 1:15:24 - Dangers of holding this view 1:22:54 - Resources
Resources from Getting Schooled: “We the Fallen People” by Robert Tracy McKenzie - https://amzn.to/3qzgkuf
“The Bible in Politics” by Richard Bauckham - https://amzn.to/3U1zQgF
“Every Leaf, Line, and Letter” edited by Timothy Larsen - https://amzn.to/3U9M7ja
Articles mentioned: “Jackson water crisis deepens as state deploys National Guard” - https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/09/01/jackson-mississippi-water-crisis/
“Trump should fill Christians with rage. How come he doesn’t?” by Michael Gerson (The Washington Post) - https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/09/01/michael-gerson-evangelical-christian-maga-democracy/
“The Evangelical Question in the History of American Religion” by Kirsten Sanders (The Hedgehog Review) - https://hedgehogreview.com/issues/the-use-and-abuse-of-history/articles/the-evangelical-question-in-the-history-of-american-religion
Join us on Patreon for more episodes of Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess and other great bonus content!
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09/25/12 • 55 min
Free Speech + Faith = Riots? Will Science eliminate God? These questions PLUS a conversation about the portrayal Christians in Hollywood and the history of Christian art... this week on the podcast!
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602: When Vischer Met Reiner
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01/31/24 • 92 min
A new documentary hits theaters on February 16 about Christian Nationalism called God and Country. It features Phil and Skye, and many other Holy Post contributors. The executive producer of the movie is legendary actor, producer, and director, Rob Reiner, who’s created classics like The Princess Bride, When Harry Met Sally, and A Few Good Men. Reiner is a well-known supporter of progressive political and cultural causes and he’s not a Christian, which has triggered an avalanche of criticism from conservatives against those featured in the film. In this episode, Phil talks to Rob Reiner and Dan Partland, the director of God and Country, about why they made the movie, why they affirm Christians who are politically engaged but criticize Christian Nationalism, and what they hope the documentary accomplishes. Skye and Kaitlyn then join Phil to debrief the interview.
Holy Post Plus Getting Schooled - The Worship Wars
https://www.patreon.com/posts/96819726/
0:00 - Intro
1:38 - Show Starts
4:28 - Theme Song
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7:05 - Prefacing the Interview
9:55 - The Interview Begins
13:42 - How the God & Country Documentary Came To Be
27:05 - Faith and Voting
31:40 - What is Christian Nationalism?
37:43 - The First Culture War Show
46:00 - Who Decides What Counts as Progress?
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58:52 - Debrief Begins
1:32:15 - End Credits
Links:
God & Country Movie Trailer: https://godandcountrythemovie.com/
Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/
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12/08/21 • 46 min
A recent survey found that 49 percent of pastors reported conspiracy theories were spreading within their congregations. This is especially prevalent within evangelical communities. Although evangelicals are supposed to be known as people of the “good news”—which is what the word “evangelical” literally means—in many places they’ve become the largest consumers and spreaders of “fake news.” In this special episode co-produced with the Love Thy Neighborhood podcast, Skye Jethani and Jesse Eubanks take a closer look at the origins and impact of fake news. How we should define what’s “fake”, why it’s become such a problem, and what can Christians do about it.
Love Thy Neighborhood podcast: https://lovethyneighborhood.org/ltnpodcast/ Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com 0:00 - Intro 2:04 - War of the Worlds 7:40 - What is fake news? https://www.newsguardtech.com/special-reports/special-report-2020-engagement-analysis/ https://lifewayresearch.com/2021/01/26/half-of-u-s-protestant-pastors-hear-conspiracy-theories-in-their-churches/ https://guides.lib.umich.edu/fakenews 10:25 - Fake news in the church https://www.businessinsider.com/pastors-quit-after-qanon-radicalize-congregation-2021-3 12:01 - Follow the money https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-science-review/article/abs/partisan-polarization-is-the-primary-psychological-motivation-behind-political-fake-news-sharing-on-twitter/3F7D2098CD87AE5501F7AD4A7FA83602 23:17 - Episode sponsors With God Daily: http://withgoddaily.com The Movie Proposal: https://www.themovieproposal.com 25:35 - Technology Jason Thacker: https://jasonthacker.com https://news.mit.edu/2018/study-twitter-false-news-travels-faster-true-stories-0308 31:03 - Reclaiming truth https://www.allsides.com https://www.businessinsider.com/christians-are-often-victims-of-conspiracy-theories-health-falsehoods-2021-4
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