
602: When Vischer Met Reiner
01/31/24 • 92 min
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A new documentary hits theaters on February 16 about Christian Nationalism called God and Country. It features Phil and Skye, and many other Holy Post contributors. The executive producer of the movie is legendary actor, producer, and director, Rob Reiner, who’s created classics like The Princess Bride, When Harry Met Sally, and A Few Good Men. Reiner is a well-known supporter of progressive political and cultural causes and he’s not a Christian, which has triggered an avalanche of criticism from conservatives against those featured in the film. In this episode, Phil talks to Rob Reiner and Dan Partland, the director of God and Country, about why they made the movie, why they affirm Christians who are politically engaged but criticize Christian Nationalism, and what they hope the documentary accomplishes. Skye and Kaitlyn then join Phil to debrief the interview.
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0:00 - Intro
1:38 - Show Starts
4:28 - Theme Song
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7:05 - Prefacing the Interview
9:55 - The Interview Begins
13:42 - How the God & Country Documentary Came To Be
27:05 - Faith and Voting
31:40 - What is Christian Nationalism?
37:43 - The First Culture War Show
46:00 - Who Decides What Counts as Progress?
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58:52 - Debrief Begins
1:32:15 - End Credits
Links:
God & Country Movie Trailer: https://godandcountrythemovie.com/
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A new documentary hits theaters on February 16 about Christian Nationalism called God and Country. It features Phil and Skye, and many other Holy Post contributors. The executive producer of the movie is legendary actor, producer, and director, Rob Reiner, who’s created classics like The Princess Bride, When Harry Met Sally, and A Few Good Men. Reiner is a well-known supporter of progressive political and cultural causes and he’s not a Christian, which has triggered an avalanche of criticism from conservatives against those featured in the film. In this episode, Phil talks to Rob Reiner and Dan Partland, the director of God and Country, about why they made the movie, why they affirm Christians who are politically engaged but criticize Christian Nationalism, and what they hope the documentary accomplishes. Skye and Kaitlyn then join Phil to debrief the interview.
Holy Post Plus Getting Schooled - The Worship Wars
https://www.patreon.com/posts/96819726/
0:00 - Intro
1:38 - Show Starts
4:28 - Theme Song
4:50 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to www.hiyahealth.com/HOLYPOST to receive 50% off your first order
5:56 - Sponsor - Fabric by Gerber Life
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7:05 - Prefacing the Interview
9:55 - The Interview Begins
13:42 - How the God & Country Documentary Came To Be
27:05 - Faith and Voting
31:40 - What is Christian Nationalism?
37:43 - The First Culture War Show
46:00 - Who Decides What Counts as Progress?
56:45 - Sponsor - Better Help - Get 10% off your first month at www.betterhelp.com/holypost
57:43 - Sponsor - Rocket Money - Find and cancel your old subscriptions with Rocket Money at www.rocketmoney.com/holypost
58:52 - Debrief Begins
1:32:15 - End Credits
Links:
God & Country Movie Trailer: https://godandcountrythemovie.com/
Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/
Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus
Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost
Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop
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28:18 - The Roots of Polarization
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58:53 - America as a Religion
1:04:50 - Poetic Theology of the Cross
1:15:50 - The Paganization of the Cross
1:31:20 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment
With Desantis Out, Can a Christian Support Donald Trump?
https://www.christianpost.com/voices/with-desantis-out-can-a-christian-support-donald-trump.html
What Politifact Learned in 1,000 Fact Checks of Donald Trump
Science is Revealing Why American Politics Are So Insanely Polarized
https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2024/01/20/polarization-science-evolution-psychology/
America’s Lack of Faith in Our Collective Power is a Bigger Problem Than Trump
Additional Resources:
The Wood Between the Worlds: A Poetic Theology of the Cross https://a.co/d/4reF5UX
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