
Should We Get A Sleep Divorce? with Dr. Shelby Harris
08/22/23 • 48 min
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Some people get FOMO (the Fear of Missing Out) but I have FOMS (the Fear of Missing Sleep.) I go to bed early and I am an extremely light sleeper. Penn, on the other hand, likes to say up a bit later than me and... is a snorer. Recently, Penn had a cold and slept in the guest room and I had some of the best sleep of my life. It got me wondering, are there couples who have happy marriages and sleep in separate rooms?
This week we have Dr. Shelby Harris, a licensed clinical psychologist who specializes in behavioral sleep medicine to talk all about it. She says there is nothing wrong with a sleep alliance for couple who has different sleep styles or nighttime routines. Is this happening at your house? Let us know and learn more about Dr. Harris here: https://www.drshelbyharris.com/.
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Some people get FOMO (the Fear of Missing Out) but I have FOMS (the Fear of Missing Sleep.) I go to bed early and I am an extremely light sleeper. Penn, on the other hand, likes to say up a bit later than me and... is a snorer. Recently, Penn had a cold and slept in the guest room and I had some of the best sleep of my life. It got me wondering, are there couples who have happy marriages and sleep in separate rooms?
This week we have Dr. Shelby Harris, a licensed clinical psychologist who specializes in behavioral sleep medicine to talk all about it. She says there is nothing wrong with a sleep alliance for couple who has different sleep styles or nighttime routines. Is this happening at your house? Let us know and learn more about Dr. Harris here: https://www.drshelbyharris.com/.
Ask a question or just say hi, by calling 323-364-3929 or emailing us at [email protected]. If you like this podcast please consider leaving us a review!
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Kim and Penn are online content creators known for their award-winning videos, including original music, song parodies, and comedy sketches. Their videos have resulted in over 2 billion views and 8 million followers across their social media platforms since they (accidentally) went viral in 2013. They have a best-selling book on marriage communication, a top-rated podcast, a fun-filled family card game, and most recently, they were the winners on Season 33 of The Amazing Race.
The Holderness Family Podcast is edited and engineered by Max Trujillo of Trujillo Media and produced by Ann Marie Taepke, Sam Pressman, and Ashley Cimino.
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The Holderness Family Podcast is edited and engineered by Max Trujillo of Trujillo Media and produced by Ann Marie Taepke, Sam Pressman, and Ashley Cimino.
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