
Can Business Be a Force for Good? with Dr. Jay Jakub
08/19/24 • 66 min
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Have you ever thought about how you can solve the world's problems with your ideas? Dr. Jay Jakub believes that businesses can better position itself to solve the bigger problem; whether it be social, or environmental.
He recounts the origins of the Economics of Mutuality (EOM) from his time as Senior Director for External Research at Mars, Inc., and how he learned first-hand that businesses can shift from profit-centric models to purpose-driven practices that leverage social, human, and natural capitals.
Join us as we explore the evolving landscape of stakeholder vs. shareholder capitalism, the challenges and opportunities of artificial intelligence (AI) and the vital role of business schools in fostering a broader, purpose-driven curriculum to drive folks to embrace a more conscious approach to business.
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This show is presented by Conscious Capitalism, Inc. (https://www.consciouscapitalism.org/) and is produced by Rainbow Creative (https://www.rainbowcreative.co/) with Matthew Jones as Executive Producer, Rithu Jagannath as Lead Producer, and Nathan Wheatley as Editor.
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Timothy & Raj
Time Stamps
00:00 Merging Companies for Mutual Transformation
01:12 Meet Dr. Jay Jakub: A Leader in Economics of Mutuality
02:40 Understanding Economics of Mutuality
04:07 Core Elements of Economics of Mutuality
07:59 The Origins of Economics of Mutuality at Mars
10:50 Implementing Stakeholder Capitalism
18:55 Case Study: Novo Nordisk's Purpose Transformation
23:08 Mars' Application of Economics of Mutuality
26:29 Purpose-Driven Business Strategies
29:48 Healing Business Through Mutual Value Creation
32:12 Sponsor Message: 2024 Conscious Capitalism CEO Summit
33:02 Personal Journeys and Faith
34:32 Transition from Government to Business
35:35 Advice for CEOs on Conscious Capitalism
38:10 Challenges of Short-Term Market Focus
43:04 Private Equity and Purpose-Driven Investments
46:16 Navigating ESG and Compliance
49:48 Stakeholder Orientation and Decision-Making
52:33 Business Education and Conscious Capitalism
01:02:29 Impact of AI on Economics of Mutuality
01:05:24 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Have you ever thought about how you can solve the world's problems with your ideas? Dr. Jay Jakub believes that businesses can better position itself to solve the bigger problem; whether it be social, or environmental.
He recounts the origins of the Economics of Mutuality (EOM) from his time as Senior Director for External Research at Mars, Inc., and how he learned first-hand that businesses can shift from profit-centric models to purpose-driven practices that leverage social, human, and natural capitals.
Join us as we explore the evolving landscape of stakeholder vs. shareholder capitalism, the challenges and opportunities of artificial intelligence (AI) and the vital role of business schools in fostering a broader, purpose-driven curriculum to drive folks to embrace a more conscious approach to business.
**
If you enjoy this podcast, would you consider leaving a review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes only a few seconds and greatly helps us get our podcast out to a wider audience.
Please subscribe on Apple Podcasts / Spotify / Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts.
For transcripts and show notes, please go to: https://www.theconsciouscapitalists.com
This show is presented by Conscious Capitalism, Inc. (https://www.consciouscapitalism.org/) and is produced by Rainbow Creative (https://www.rainbowcreative.co/) with Matthew Jones as Executive Producer, Rithu Jagannath as Lead Producer, and Nathan Wheatley as Editor.
Thank you for your support!
Timothy & Raj
Time Stamps
00:00 Merging Companies for Mutual Transformation
01:12 Meet Dr. Jay Jakub: A Leader in Economics of Mutuality
02:40 Understanding Economics of Mutuality
04:07 Core Elements of Economics of Mutuality
07:59 The Origins of Economics of Mutuality at Mars
10:50 Implementing Stakeholder Capitalism
18:55 Case Study: Novo Nordisk's Purpose Transformation
23:08 Mars' Application of Economics of Mutuality
26:29 Purpose-Driven Business Strategies
29:48 Healing Business Through Mutual Value Creation
32:12 Sponsor Message: 2024 Conscious Capitalism CEO Summit
33:02 Personal Journeys and Faith
34:32 Transition from Government to Business
35:35 Advice for CEOs on Conscious Capitalism
38:10 Challenges of Short-Term Market Focus
43:04 Private Equity and Purpose-Driven Investments
46:16 Navigating ESG and Compliance
49:48 Stakeholder Orientation and Decision-Making
52:33 Business Education and Conscious Capitalism
01:02:29 Impact of AI on Economics of Mutuality
01:05:24 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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For transcripts and show notes, please go to: https://www.theconsciouscapitalists.com
This show is presented by Conscious Capitalism, Inc. (https://www.consciouscapitalism.org/) and is produced by Rainbow Creative (https://www.rainbowcreative.co/) with Matthew Jones as Executive Producer, Rithu Jagannath as Lead Producer, and Nathan Wheatley as Editor.
Thank you for your support!
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Time Stamps
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27:54 Ensuring Continuity of Purpose and Values Post-Sale
29:24 Sponsorship Announcement: 2024 Conscious Capitalism CEO Summit
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If you enjoy this podcast, would you consider leaving a review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes only a few seconds and greatly helps us get our podcast out to a wider audience.
Please subscribe on Apple Podcasts / Spotify / Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts.
For transcripts and show notes, please go to: https://www.theconsciouscapitalists.com
This show is presented by Conscious Capitalism, Inc. (https://www.consciouscapitalism.org/) and is produced by Rainbow Creative (https://www.rainbowcreative.co/) with Matthew Jones as Executive Producer, Rithu Jagannath as Lead Producer, and Nathan Wheatley as Editor.
Thank you for your support!
Timothy & Raj
Time Stamps
00:00 Welcome to The Conscious Capitalists
00:23 Introducing Victor Cho
01:44 Victor's Journey to the Fourth Stakeholder Philosophy
04:05 Operationalizing Societal Impact
06:09 Frameworks for Positive Business Impact
14:15 The Role of Data and Collaboration
19:29 AI and Social Responsibility
22:42 AI's Impact on Business Models
23:16 Cost Reduction and Efficiency
24:15 Intelligence as a Service
25:20 AI in Asynchronous Video Communication
27:23 AI's Role in Conscious Capitalism
31:15 The Future of Work with AI
36:54 Leadership in the Age of AI
38:14 The Importance of Suppliers and Authenticity
42:03 Conclusion and Further Resources
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