Ep16 Putting Race on the Agenda

10/03/22 • 39 min

In this special episode for Black History Month, we invite our guest Maurice Mcleod (pronounced as 'Morris' by his friends), the CEO of ROTA (Race on the Agenda), to give his views on how racism has changed over his lifetime, and how we as individuals and organisations can learn from and support Black, Asian and other ethnic minority colleagues. We discuss the impact on personal judgement and decision-making and what we can each personally do to be more inclusive and become true allies.
For further information about ROTA please go to: https://www.rota.org.uk/
The Chief Psychology Officer website is now available https://www.thecpo.co.uk/
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If you have questions or would like to speak to Amanda please contact her via LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/amandapotterzircon or via email: [email protected]
Timestamps

Race on the Agenda

· 00:00 – Introduction to Race on the Agenda

· 01:24 – Maurice Mcleod Career History

· 01:45 – ROTA Explained

· 03:02 – Structurally speaking...

· 04:17 – Who does ROTA partner with?

· 05:28 – Trust & Safety panel

Breaking barriers

· 07:14 – Our allies

· 08:30 – Curiosity doesn’t kill the cat

· 09:07 – Psychological Safety revisited

· 10:36 – Watch our language

· 11:31 – Race is non-existent?

· 12:49 – Intentions are what we need to look for!

· 13:35 – Transcontinental barriers

· 14:58 – Context

Born in the USA

· 16:26 – Growing up in the Deep South...

· 17:00 – Code-switching

· 17:18 – “White Voice”

· 18:32 – Conversations with friends

· 20:39 – Watch how you speak!

· 21:28 – Accentuation

· 22:17 – The Eton choristers

· 22:45 – Interaction from a couple’s perspective

In the workplace

· 23:46 – Equity vs. Equality

· 25:00 – Being authentic

· 26:14 – The work perspective

· 27:07 – Impact of COVID and Home-working

· 29:12 – The Statistics (US based)

Hardwired

· 29:53 – Steven Bartlett vs. Malcolm Gladwell

· 30:48 – Not everybody’s existence is like this...

· 32:07 – Personal experiences of racism in the workplace

· 34:32 – Micro-aggressions

· 35:45 – Overt or Covert?

· 37:39 – Are things changing?

· 38:36 – The end.

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Race on the Agenda

· 00:00 – Introduction to Race on the Agenda

· 01:24 – Maurice Mcleod Career History

· 01:45 – ROTA Explained

· 03:02 – Structurally speaking...

· 04:17 – Who does ROTA partner with?

· 05:28 – Trust & Safety panel

Breaking barriers

· 07:14 – Our allies

· 08:30 – Curiosity doesn’t kill the cat

· 09:07 – Psychological Safety revisited

· 10:36 – Watch our language

· 11:31 – Race is non-existent?

· 12:49 – Intentions are what we need to look for!

· 13:35 – Transcontinental barriers

· 14:58 – Context

Born in the USA

· 16:26 – Growing up in the Deep South...

· 17:00 – Code-switching

· 17:18 – “White Voice”

· 18:32 – Conversations with friends

· 20:39 – Watch how you speak!

· 21:28 – Accentuation

· 22:17 – The Eton choristers

· 22:45 – Interaction from a couple’s perspective

In the workplace

· 23:46 – Equity vs. Equality

· 25:00 – Being authentic

· 26:14 – The work perspective

· 27:07 – Impact of COVID and Home-working

· 29:12 – The Statistics (US based)

Hardwired

· 29:53 – Steven Bartlett vs. Malcolm Gladwell

· 30:48 – Not everybody’s existence is like this...

· 32:07 – Personal experiences of racism in the workplace

· 34:32 – Micro-aggressions

· 35:45 – Overt or Covert?

· 37:39 – Are things changing?

· 38:36 – The end.

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Ep15 The Culture Fit Diversity Dilemma

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We have probably all heard the well used phrase from Peter Drucker that "Culture eats Strategy for Breakfast", this podcast looks at the importance of culture for success, and the question of whether we should be assessing talent for cultural fit or cultural agility and what is the impact of assessing for cultural fit or values fit on diversity?
The term culture fit has been an increasingly contentious subject in talent assessment, however there has been a move towards culture agility for assessment for recruitment in recent years. In this episode, Amanda is being interviewed by Angela Malik to understand, what is cultural agility, why is it important, and how can we bring in recruitment practices to enable organisations to be more cognitively diverse and culturally agile?
The Chief Psychology Officer website is now available https://www.thecpo.co.uk/ Please like and follow Zircon for more podcasts and articles at https://www.linkedin.com/company/zircon-consulting-ltd/
To contact Amanda via LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/amandapotterzircon
To contact Amanda via email: [email protected]
For more information about the BeTalent Values cards mentioned in this podcast please go to: https://www.betalent.com
Timestamps

Cultural Agility

· 00:00 – Introduction to Cultural Agility

· 00:43 – This could be a contentious issue...

· 01:19 – Culture is the word!

· 02:01 – What is Culture?

· 02:47 – Culture vs. Climate

· 03:58 – “Culture eats strategy for breakfast!”

· 04:36 – Effects of poor Organizational Culture

· 05:18 – $200 billion, gone in 5 years!

Building a Culture, for Culture

· 05:35 – When we get it right...

· 06:07 – Good Culture vs. Bad Culture

· 07:02 – A shared understanding

· 07:38 – We all need to be on the same page

· 08:35 – Core values on the bulletin board

· 11:31 – Do away with the values?

· 12:41 – Values for recruitment

· 13:33 – Change was in the air...

Diversity & Factionalism

· 14:42 – Selective hiring, undermines Diversity

· 15:33 – Strengths + Culture doesn’t always mix

· 16:04 – Culture Fit => Cultural Agility

· 16:42 – What is Cultural Agility?

· 17:23 – Silo Mentality

· 17:54 – Aspired Values vs. Actual Values

· 18:52 – The value of using Values

Just from looking at this next bit...

· 19:43 – Unconscious Bias

· 20:39 – Amygdala & Pre-frontal Cortex

· 21:45 – Similarity Bias

· 22:24 – Were they the right fit?

· 23:15 – First Impression Bias

· 24:32 – Contrast Effect

· 25:19 – Overcoming Bias in recruiting

· 26:29 – Hiring through Cultural Agility

· 27:59 – Summary of the list

This is right for you!

· 28:21 – We still believe in Strengths

· 29:22 – Curiosity may not kill the cat...

· 29:53 – The value of

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Ep17 Creating a Culture of Accountability

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With quiet quitting being a hot topic in both business and HR recently, many might wonder what how responsibility and accountability influence their workplaces, colleagues and themselves. In this episode, Dr Amanda Potter is being interviewed by Tim Hepworth to talk about how to build a culture of accountability that leads to a thriving organisation and engaged employees. They will explore this through the lens of psychology, neuroscience, and topics like whistleblowing, wellbeing and inclusion.
The Chief Psychology Officer website is now available https://www.thecpo.co.uk/ Please like and follow Zircon for more podcasts and articles at https://www.linkedin.com/company/zircon-consulting-ltd/
If you have questions or would like to speak to Amanda please contact her via LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/amandapotterzircon or via email: [email protected].
For more information on Quiet Quitting and Quiet Fleecing, Amanda was interviewed for the following article. https://www.hcamag.com/ca/specialization/leadership/quiet-fleecing-are-you-robbing-top-talent-of-time-and-money/423524
Timestamps

Creating a Culture of Accountability

· 00:00 – Introduction to Culture of Accountability

· 00:56 – Responsibility vs. Accountability

· 01:57 – Owning your mistakes and successes

· 03:15 – What’s stopping us?

· 03:53 – Whistleblowing

· 05:44 – Managing Expectations

· 06:26 – It’s a cultural thing...

· 07:11 – Specifics?

Communication is key

· 08:06 – The meek, shall not inherit the business

· 08:53 – I need commitment first...

· 10:07 – I don’t understand what you haven’t told me!

· 11:00 – Wellbeing

· 12:49 – Times they are a changin’

· 13:39 – Trust

· 14:42 – They are tracking us!

· 16:19 – Ideals when working from home

What seems to be the problem?

· 18:31 – Undermining Accountability

· 19:31 – Top-down control

· 20:29 – Bias

· 21:08 – Consensus seems to suggest...

· 22:06 – Confirmation bias

· 23:15 – Bystander Apathy revisited

· 24:19 – Fundamental Attribution Error

· 25:08 – Neuroscience!

Let’s finish this discussion in a quiet place...

· 27:44 – I’m with (functionally) stupid

· 29:28 – Burnout revisited

· 30:00 – Shh! I’m trying to quit

· 31:11 – The increase of quiet quitting

· 35:47 – Summary of undermining accountability

· 36:32 – Positives of accountability

· 37:38 – The end.

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