
The Leadership Formula for Turbulence: Trust, Resilience, and Psychological Safety
01/29/25 • 25 min
Navigating high-pressure situations in the workplace requires more than just strategy—it demands trust, empathy, and a culture of psychological safety. In this episode, Maxine Legal, CEO and founder of Thrive Inclusively, shares insights from her 20+ years of leadership in healthcare to help leaders and teams thrive under pressure. Discover actionable strategies to foster resilience, communication, and trust, even in the most dynamic business environments.
Throughout this talk, we dive into:
- The importance of psychological safety and how it transforms workplace dynamics.
- Why transparent communication builds trust, especially in times of uncertainty or crisis.
- How to tailor your leadership approach to different communication styles and personalities.
- The balance between holding employees accountable and maintaining empathy as a leader.
- Practical tips on investing in self-care to lead effectively and build resilient teams.
About the Guest:
Maxine L. Legall is a dynamic speaker and the visionary founder of Thrive Inclusively LLC, a premier consulting firm based in New York. With over 20 years of groundbreaking experience across healthcare, non-profit, and corporate sectors, Maxine empowers organizations to thrive through transformative inclusion initiatives, cultural transformation, leadership development, and strategies that prioritize resilience and self-care. Her actionable insights inspire growth, drive impactful change, and foster environments where individuals and teams excel.
Maxine L. Legall is a passionate and empowering coach, dedicated to guiding leaders and teams toward unlocking their potential, building resilience, and achieving meaningful success through personalized strategies and transformative growth.
Maxine Legall’s website: www.thriveinclusively.com
About the Host:
Your host, Maartje van Krieken, brings a wealth of experience from the front lines of business turmoil. With a background in crisis management, managing transformation and complex collaboration, she has successfully guided numerous organizations through their most challenging times. Her unique perspective and practical approach make her the go to First Responder in the arena of business turmoil and crisis.
Podcast Homepage: https://www.thebusinessemergencyroom.com/
https://www.thechaosgamesconsulting.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/maartje/
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Navigating high-pressure situations in the workplace requires more than just strategy—it demands trust, empathy, and a culture of psychological safety. In this episode, Maxine Legal, CEO and founder of Thrive Inclusively, shares insights from her 20+ years of leadership in healthcare to help leaders and teams thrive under pressure. Discover actionable strategies to foster resilience, communication, and trust, even in the most dynamic business environments.
Throughout this talk, we dive into:
- The importance of psychological safety and how it transforms workplace dynamics.
- Why transparent communication builds trust, especially in times of uncertainty or crisis.
- How to tailor your leadership approach to different communication styles and personalities.
- The balance between holding employees accountable and maintaining empathy as a leader.
- Practical tips on investing in self-care to lead effectively and build resilient teams.
About the Guest:
Maxine L. Legall is a dynamic speaker and the visionary founder of Thrive Inclusively LLC, a premier consulting firm based in New York. With over 20 years of groundbreaking experience across healthcare, non-profit, and corporate sectors, Maxine empowers organizations to thrive through transformative inclusion initiatives, cultural transformation, leadership development, and strategies that prioritize resilience and self-care. Her actionable insights inspire growth, drive impactful change, and foster environments where individuals and teams excel.
Maxine L. Legall is a passionate and empowering coach, dedicated to guiding leaders and teams toward unlocking their potential, building resilience, and achieving meaningful success through personalized strategies and transformative growth.
Maxine Legall’s website: www.thriveinclusively.com
About the Host:
Your host, Maartje van Krieken, brings a wealth of experience from the front lines of business turmoil. With a background in crisis management, managing transformation and complex collaboration, she has successfully guided numerous organizations through their most challenging times. Her unique perspective and practical approach make her the go to First Responder in the arena of business turmoil and crisis.
Podcast Homepage: https://www.thebusinessemergencyroom.com/
https://www.thechaosgamesconsulting.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/maartje/
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Podcast Homepage: https://www.thebusinessemergencyroom.com/
https://www.thechaosgamesconsulting.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/maartje/
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Podcast Homepage: https://www.thebusinessemergencyroom.com/
https://www.thechaosgamesconsulting.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/maartje/
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