
E265: Detox, Heal & Thrive: Infrared, Red Light & PEMF Therapy with Robby Besner of Therasage
04/16/25 • 64 min
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In this powerful episode, Marnie and Stephanie sit down with Robby Besner, founder and Chief Science Officer of Therasage, to explore cutting-edge wellness tools designed to support detoxification, reduce pain, and boost vitality.
Robby shares the personal journey that led him to create Therasage, sparked by his daughter’s battle with chronic Lyme disease. From infrared saunas and red light therapy to PEMF (Pulsed Electromagnetic Field) technology, he breaks down the science behind these natural healing tools and how they help mobilize toxins, support circulation, and enhance overall well-being.
You'll learn:
- How daily sauna use supports detox and immune health
- The key differences and benefits of red light vs. PEMF therapy
- Why mimicking nature’s frequencies is essential for healing
- The emerging role of nitric oxide in vascular health
- How portable, affordable tech can empower your wellness journey
Plus, for a limited time, enjoy 25% off sitewide at Therasage.com with code ARTOFLIVINGWELL — valid for 72 hours after this episode drops!
Chapters
05:41 The Genesis of Therisage 12:51 Exploring Popular Wellness Products 26:40 Diving into Red Light Therapy 39:03 Understanding PEMF Technology 42:00 The Science Behind Pulsing Frequencies 46:04 Enhancing Blood Flow and Circulation 47:29 Comparing PEMF and Red Light Therapy 49:56 Emerging Therapies and Innovations 53:55 The Future of Health TechnologiesHelpful links and resources:
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7-Day Vitality Reboot: Start anytime! Revitalize your body and turn inward this winter with our self-guided 7-Day Vitality Reboot designed to leave you feeling refreshed, energized, and ready to embrace the season ahead! We now have a program where you can do it on your own schedule but still receive all the wonderful support and recipes of the full program. Register here!
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Thanks to our amazing Sponsor, Good Health Saunas.
Good Health Saunas is proud to provide top-of-the-line infrared saunas that deliver the most impactful results for overall health and wellness. For more information and for your special discount please visit, www.goodhealthsaunas.com and mention The Art of Living Well Podcast. ---------------------------------------------------------
Thanks to our amazing Sponsor, ZBiotics
ZBiotics Pre-Alcohol Probiotic is the world’s first genetically engineered probiotic. It was invented by PhD scientists to tackle rough mornings after drinking. Just remember to drink ZBiotics before drinking alcohol, drink responsibly, and get a good night’s sleep to feel your best tomorrow. ZBiotics is backed with 100% money back guarantee so if you’re unsatisfied for any reason, they’ll refund your money, no questions asked.
Go to ZBiotics to get 15% off your first order when you use code AOLW at checkout.
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Check out these amazing, high quality products from Kion, especially their essential amino acids, creatine and protein powders, which we both use daily. Use code 'ARTOFLIVING' for a discount off your purchase.
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In this powerful episode, Marnie and Stephanie sit down with Robby Besner, founder and Chief Science Officer of Therasage, to explore cutting-edge wellness tools designed to support detoxification, reduce pain, and boost vitality.
Robby shares the personal journey that led him to create Therasage, sparked by his daughter’s battle with chronic Lyme disease. From infrared saunas and red light therapy to PEMF (Pulsed Electromagnetic Field) technology, he breaks down the science behind these natural healing tools and how they help mobilize toxins, support circulation, and enhance overall well-being.
You'll learn:
- How daily sauna use supports detox and immune health
- The key differences and benefits of red light vs. PEMF therapy
- Why mimicking nature’s frequencies is essential for healing
- The emerging role of nitric oxide in vascular health
- How portable, affordable tech can empower your wellness journey
Plus, for a limited time, enjoy 25% off sitewide at Therasage.com with code ARTOFLIVINGWELL — valid for 72 hours after this episode drops!
Chapters
05:41 The Genesis of Therisage 12:51 Exploring Popular Wellness Products 26:40 Diving into Red Light Therapy 39:03 Understanding PEMF Technology 42:00 The Science Behind Pulsing Frequencies 46:04 Enhancing Blood Flow and Circulation 47:29 Comparing PEMF and Red Light Therapy 49:56 Emerging Therapies and Innovations 53:55 The Future of Health TechnologiesHelpful links and resources:
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7-Day Vitality Reboot: Start anytime! Revitalize your body and turn inward this winter with our self-guided 7-Day Vitality Reboot designed to leave you feeling refreshed, energized, and ready to embrace the season ahead! We now have a program where you can do it on your own schedule but still receive all the wonderful support and recipes of the full program. Register here!
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Thanks to our amazing Sponsor, Good Health Saunas.
Good Health Saunas is proud to provide top-of-the-line infrared saunas that deliver the most impactful results for overall health and wellness. For more information and for your special discount please visit, www.goodhealthsaunas.com and mention The Art of Living Well Podcast. ---------------------------------------------------------
Thanks to our amazing Sponsor, ZBiotics
ZBiotics Pre-Alcohol Probiotic is the world’s first genetically engineered probiotic. It was invented by PhD scientists to tackle rough mornings after drinking. Just remember to drink ZBiotics before drinking alcohol, drink responsibly, and get a good night’s sleep to feel your best tomorrow. ZBiotics is backed with 100% money back guarantee so if you’re unsatisfied for any reason, they’ll refund your money, no questions asked.
Go to ZBiotics to get 15% off your first order when you use code AOLW at checkout.
---------------------------------------------------------
Need more protein and energy in your day?
Check out these amazing, high quality products from Kion, especially their essential amino acids, creatine and protein powders, which we both use daily. Use code 'ARTOFLIVING' for a discount off your purchase.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Ask us a question/make a recommentation
We'd love to hear from you! Click here to share your feedback and suggestions.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Sign-up for your 15 minute Health Transformation Audit - Click here. -----------------------------------------------------------
Let us help you get to the root cause of your unwanted symptoms. Schedule a 15 minute consultation to discuss at-home functional medicine lab testing here.
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E264: Hope 4 Cancer: A Holistic Approach to Healing & Prevention with Dr Tony Jimenez
Episode Summary: Why is cancer on the rise—especially among younger generations? In this powerful episode of The Art of Living Well Podcast, we sit down with Dr. Tony Jimenez to discuss the root causes of cancer, the role of integrative oncology, and his seven key principles for cancer therapy.
Dr. Tony shares his personal journey into holistic cancer care, highlighting the importance of nutrition, detoxification, immune support, and emotional healing. He also breaks down non-toxic treatments, the significance of dental health, and why practices like coffee enemas and oxygenation can make a profound impact on overall wellness.
If you’re looking to take proactive steps toward cancer prevention, boost your health, and gain insights into holistic healing, this episode is a must-listen!
Key Takeaways: ✅ Toxicity & lifestyle choices play a major role in cancer development ✅ A personalized approach to nutrition is key to healing & longevity ✅ Detoxification & immune system support are crucial for disease prevention ✅ Coffee enemas can enhance cognitive function & boost glutathione levels ✅ Oxygenation is essential for overall health—and it’s free! ✅ Your oral microbiome & dental health directly impact your body’s wellness ✅ Emotional healing & trauma work are vital for long-term health
Tune in now to learn how you can take charge of your health and longevity!
Chapters
08:26 Understanding Cancer: Causes and Growth
19:47 Trends in Cancer: What We’re Seeing Today
20:16 The Seven Key Principles of Cancer Therapy
34:05 The Power of Coffee Enemas
38:38 Understanding the Microbiome
41:27 Dental Health and Toxicity
53:00 The Emotional Component of Healing
01:00:10 Practical Steps for Longevity
We’d love to hear your thoughts! Connect with us on social media or email us at [email protected]
🔗 Listen now & take action toward a healthier future!
Helpful links and resources:
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7-Day Vitality Reboot: Start anytime! Revitalize your body and turn inward this winter with our self-guided 7-Day Vitality Reboot designed to leave you feeling refreshed, energized, and ready to embrace the season ahead! We now have a program where you can do it on your own schedule but still receive all the wonderful support and recipes of the full program. Register here!
---------------------------------------------------------
Thanks to our amazing Sponsor, Good Health Saunas.
Good Health Saunas is proud to provide top-of-the-line infrared saunas that deliver the most impactful results for overall health and wellness. For more information and for your special discount please visit, www.goodhealthsaunas.com and mention The Art of Living Well Podcast. ---------------------------------------------------------
Thanks to our amazing Sponsor, ZBiotics
ZBiotics Pre-Alcohol Probiotic is the world’s first genetically engineered probiotic. It was invented by PhD scientists to tackle rough mornings after drinking. Just remember to drink ZBiotics before drinking alcohol, drink responsibly, and get a good night’s sleep to feel your best tomorrow. ZBiotics is backed with 100% money back guarantee so if you’re unsatisfied for any reason, they’ll refund your money, no questions asked.
Go to ZBiotics to get 15% off your first order when you use code AOLW at checkout.
---------------------------------------------------------
Need more protein and energy in your day?
Check out these amazing, high quality products from Kion, especially their essential amino acids, creatine and protein powders, which we both use daily. Use code 'ARTOFLIVING' for a discount off your purchase.
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E266: Why we all need more fiber with Marnie & Stephanie
In this episode of The Art of Living Well Podcast, Stephanie and Marnie shine a spotlight on one of the most overlooked yet essential components of a healthy diet: Fiber. 🌾✨
With a staggering 95% of Americans not getting enough fiber, they dive into the why behind this dietary shortfall and explain how fiber plays a powerful role in supporting gut health, digestion, detoxification, and overall wellness.
You’ll learn about the different types of fiber, how much you really need (hint: it’s more than you think!), and simple, delicious ways to incorporate more fiber-rich foods like raspberries and beans into your meals.
Stephanie and Marnie also explore the importance of tracking your fiber intake, staying hydrated, and when fiber supplements may be helpful—without replacing the benefits of whole foods.
Whether you’re on a health journey or just want to stay regular (yep, we said it!), this episode will leave you inspired and informed to make easy, lasting changes.
Key Takeaways:
- 95% of Americans are fiber-deficient
- Women need 25–30g daily; men need even more
- Fiber improves digestion, detox, and the gut microbiome
- Beans and berries = budget-friendly, fiber-packed superstars
- Supplements can help, but whole foods should lead the way
- Regular bowel movements = major health marker
Chapters:
00:00 – Introduction and what is fiber 05:06 – Understanding Digestive Health 12:29 – Incorporating Fiber into Your Diet
🎧 Listen now and take the first step toward a healthier gut and a more energized you! 📲 Don’t forget to subscribe, share with a friend, and tag us with your biggest takeaways!
Helpful links and resources:
- Download our free fiber guide here
- Pull up the Bristol Stool Chart and see if your poop is ideal 80+% of the time
- Try Sugar-to-fiber: use code LIVINGWELL for 15% off https://zbiotics.com/LIVINGWELL
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7-Day Vitality Reboot: Start anytime! Revitalize your body and turn inward this winter with our self-guided 7-Day Vitality Reboot designed to leave you feeling refreshed, energized, and ready to embrace the season ahead! We now have a program where you can do it on your own schedule but still receive all the wonderful support and recipes of the full program. Register here!
---------------------------------------------------------
Thanks to our amazing Sponsor, Good Health Saunas.
Good Health Saunas is proud to provide top-of-the-line infrared saunas that deliver the most impactful results for overall health and wellness. For more information and for your special discount please visit, www.goodhealthsaunas.com and mention The Art of Living Well Podcast. ---------------------------------------------------------
Thanks to our amazing Sponsor, ZBiotics
ZBiotics Pre-Alcohol Probiotic is the world’s first genetically engineered probiotic. It was invented by PhD scientists to tackle rough mornings after drinking. Just remember to drink ZBiotics before drinking alcohol, drink responsibly, and get a good night’s sleep to feel your best tomorrow. ZBiotics is backed with 100% money back guarantee so if you’re unsatisfied for any reason, they’ll refund your money, no questions asked.
Go to ZBiotics to get 15% off your first order when you use code AOLW at checkout.
---------------------------------------------------------
Need more protein and energy in your day?
Check out these amazing, high quality products from Kion, especially their essential amino acids, creatine and protein powders, which we both use daily. Use code 'ARTOFLIVING' for a discount off your purchase.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Ask us a question/make a recommentation
We'd love to hear from you! Click here to share your feedback and suggestions.
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