
Fundraising Tips for Startups
04/21/20 • 57 min
Chloe Curtis (Fordham Law ‘19) and Daniel Salomon (Fordham Law ‘19) interview Gary R. Schall, Partner at WilmerHale, about fundraising tips for startup companies and specific tools for nailing a pitch to investors.
Episode Roadmap:- [:30] Chloe Curtis and Daniel Salomon introduce themselves and Gary R. Schall, Partner at WilmerHale. They define equity financing and highlight characteristics investors are looking for when considering an investment.
- [3:13] ‘How does company type influence the ability to secure funding?’ and other questions startups need to answer before seeking funding.
- [7:40] Pros and cons of asking friends and family for initial funding.
- [12:03] The importance of obtaining legal advice to evaluate securities law issues, at the federal as well as state level.
- [13:29] An overview of angel investors — an ideal source of funding.
- [16:58] Understanding the value — beyond money — that sophisticated investors can bring to the board.
- [21:57] Equity crowdfunding as an option for raising capital, legal obligations, and funding limits that companies need to comply with when crowdfunding.
- [29:48] Tips for approaching traditional venture capital firms and the first message you need to convey to them.
- [34:33] Particular recommendations for female and minority entrepreneurs
- [36:17] Recommendations for nailing the perfect pitch starts with stating the problem your company will solve and why they should care about it.
- [42:51] How many investors should you plan on pitching to before securing any funding? And what is the ideal timeline for making a pitch?
- [46:45] How to negotiate the amount of equity provided to investors.
- [50:15] The essentials checklist for the perfect pitch, and Gary’s top tips for maximizing your time with the investor.
- [53:58] Advice for maintaining positive relationships with investors over time.
- “There is a lot of homework you need to do before you even think about raising money.” — Gary R. Schall
- “For every security that gets issued in the United States, one of three things happens — it’s exempt under the securities laws, it’s registered with the SEC, or it’s illegal. We don’t like being in the last category; we typically like being in the first — it’s exempt.” — Gary R. Schall
- “There’s an expression ‘smart money and dumb money’. Sophisticated investors are considered smart money because they bring more than just a check.” — Gary R. Schall
- “Being informed about what you’re getting into is very important with equity crowdfunding.” — Gary R. Schall
- “A good investor is going to test you....and you’d better know the answers. You’d better be prepared.” — Gary R. Schall
- Fordham’s Entrepreneurial Law Clinic
- Follow us on Twitter @FordhamELC
Disclaimer:
The information contained in the Startup LAWnchpad podcast and any materials associated therewith (the “Podcast”) is for educational, informational, and entertainment purposes only. It does not constitute legal advice or tax advice with respect to any particular circumstance. The Podcast is not a complete overview or analysis of the topics presented and may contain information that varies in different jurisdictions and is subject to revision, interpretation, or nullification after the date of recording. The transmission of information to you does not create a lawyer-client relationship between you and any host, guest, or their respective employer, including but not limited to Fordham University School of Law and Lincoln Square Legal Services, Inc. None of these parties shall be liable for any loss that may arise from any reliance on the Podcast. You should not rely upon the Podcast or treat it as a substitute for legal advice. You should consult a lawyer familiar with your particular circumstances and licensed in your jurisdiction for legal advice.
Chloe Curtis (Fordham Law ‘19) and Daniel Salomon (Fordham Law ‘19) interview Gary R. Schall, Partner at WilmerHale, about fundraising tips for startup companies and specific tools for nailing a pitch to investors.
Episode Roadmap:- [:30] Chloe Curtis and Daniel Salomon introduce themselves and Gary R. Schall, Partner at WilmerHale. They define equity financing and highlight characteristics investors are looking for when considering an investment.
- [3:13] ‘How does company type influence the ability to secure funding?’ and other questions startups need to answer before seeking funding.
- [7:40] Pros and cons of asking friends and family for initial funding.
- [12:03] The importance of obtaining legal advice to evaluate securities law issues, at the federal as well as state level.
- [13:29] An overview of angel investors — an ideal source of funding.
- [16:58] Understanding the value — beyond money — that sophisticated investors can bring to the board.
- [21:57] Equity crowdfunding as an option for raising capital, legal obligations, and funding limits that companies need to comply with when crowdfunding.
- [29:48] Tips for approaching traditional venture capital firms and the first message you need to convey to them.
- [34:33] Particular recommendations for female and minority entrepreneurs
- [36:17] Recommendations for nailing the perfect pitch starts with stating the problem your company will solve and why they should care about it.
- [42:51] How many investors should you plan on pitching to before securing any funding? And what is the ideal timeline for making a pitch?
- [46:45] How to negotiate the amount of equity provided to investors.
- [50:15] The essentials checklist for the perfect pitch, and Gary’s top tips for maximizing your time with the investor.
- [53:58] Advice for maintaining positive relationships with investors over time.
- “There is a lot of homework you need to do before you even think about raising money.” — Gary R. Schall
- “For every security that gets issued in the United States, one of three things happens — it’s exempt under the securities laws, it’s registered with the SEC, or it’s illegal. We don’t like being in the last category; we typically like being in the first — it’s exempt.” — Gary R. Schall
- “There’s an expression ‘smart money and dumb money’. Sophisticated investors are considered smart money because they bring more than just a check.” — Gary R. Schall
- “Being informed about what you’re getting into is very important with equity crowdfunding.” — Gary R. Schall
- “A good investor is going to test you....and you’d better know the answers. You’d better be prepared.” — Gary R. Schall
- Fordham’s Entrepreneurial Law Clinic
- Follow us on Twitter @FordhamELC
Disclaimer:
The information contained in the Startup LAWnchpad podcast and any materials associated therewith (the “Podcast”) is for educational, informational, and entertainment purposes only. It does not constitute legal advice or tax advice with respect to any particular circumstance. The Podcast is not a complete overview or analysis of the topics presented and may contain information that varies in different jurisdictions and is subject to revision, interpretation, or nullification after the date of recording. The transmission of information to you does not create a lawyer-client relationship between you and any host, guest, or their respective employer, including but not limited to Fordham University School of Law and Lincoln Square Legal Services, Inc. None of these parties shall be liable for any loss that may arise from any reliance on the Podcast. You should not rely upon the Podcast or treat it as a substitute for legal advice. You should consult a lawyer familiar with your particular circumstances and licensed in your jurisdiction for legal advice.
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The Funding Spectrum — From Seed Financing to Private Equity
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Episode Description: William de Wolff (Fordham Law ‘20) and Kei Komuro (Fordham Law ‘21) interview Robert B. Nolan, Jr. (Fordham Law ’77), Managing Partner at Halyard Capital about various stages of capital raising including seed capital, venture capital, and private equity; how to attract investors; and how to raise money for your business.
Episode Roadmap:- [:30] William de Wolff and Kei Komuro introduce themselves and Robert B. Nolan, Jr, who shares the beneficial role that legal training played into his transition from law to private equity.
- [5:06] The spectrum of funding within the world of seed capital, venture capital, and private equity, and key characteristics of each stage.
- [11:04] At what stage do investors want to see a profit from their investments?
- [12:35] The importance of receiving operational expertise and guidance, in addition to financing.
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- [27:14] Why investors need to be kept well informed by struggling entrepreneurs.
- [29:34] The value of social innovation and positive environmental, social, and governance (ESG) factors in the investment world.
- [38:42] Options beyond certified B corps or benefit corporations that companies can take advantage of to incorporate a social mission.
- [42:18] A look at the future of capital funding supporting social initiatives.
- [44:54] Mr. Nolan’s recommendations for entrepreneurs who are attempting to become investors or to get access to pools of capital, and the importance of intellectual property in attracting investors.
- “Seek more than capital when talking to investors — seek those with expertise who can help you penetrate or disrupt a marketplace.” — Robert B. Nolan, Jr.
- “Always remember the first and foremost rule with a venture capital or private equity professional is that they believe management can deliver its promise.... It’s usually based on an entrepreneur’s vision and their perception of how they will make a difference in the marketplace.” — Robert B. Nolan, Jr.
- “Investors don’t expect you to be profitable from day one, but you do need to ultimately figure out a path to profitability.” — Robert B. Nolan, Jr.
- “The best thing an entrepreneur can do for its investors is to be transparent. Be open with information and tell them in advance if you see a problem coming.” — Robert B. Nolan, Jr.
- “The opportunity to have a dream developed and nurtured is the greatest reward one can have in the business world.” — Robert B. Nolan, Jr.
- “One of the most attractive elements for an investor is the potential — let alone the realization — of intellectual property that is derived from the business idea being touted by the individual entrepreneur.” — Robert B. Nolan, Jr.
- Fordham’s Entrepreneurial Law Clinic
- Follow us on Twitter @FordhamELC
Disclaimer:
The information contained in the Startup LAWnchpad podcast and any materials associated therewith (the “Podcast”) is for educational, informational, and entertainment purposes only. It does not constitute legal advice or tax advice with respect to any particular circumstance. The Podcast is not a complete overview or analysis of the topics presented and may contain information that varies in different jurisdictions and is subject to revision, interpretation, or nullification after the date of recording. The transmission of information to you does not create a lawyer-client relationship between you and any host, guest, or their respective employer, including but not limited to Fordham University School of Law and Lincoln Square Legal Services, Inc. None of these parties shall be liable for any loss that may arise from any reliance on the Podcast. You should not rely upon...
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Immigration Law Considerations for Entrepreneurs
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- [3:10] Considerations for startups if a founding member is a foreign student, including the types of visas foreign students must maintain while in the U.S.
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- [53:25] Neil shares the path that led him to practicing immigration law and advice for law students who are considering the field.
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- Fordham’s Entrepreneurial Law Clinic
- Follow us on Twitter @FordhamELC
Disclaimer:
The information contained in the Startup LAWnchpad podcast and any materials associated therewith (the “Podcast”) is for educational, informational, and entertainment purposes only. It does not constitute legal advice or tax advice with respect to any particular circumstance. The Podcast is not a complete overview or analysis of the topics presented, and may contain information that varies in different jurisdictions and is subject to revision, interpretation, or nullification after the date of recording. The transmission of information to you does not create a lawyer-client relationship between you and any host, guest, or their respective employer, including but not limited to Fordham University School of Law and Lincoln Square Legal Services, Inc. None of these parties shall be liable for any loss that may arise from any reliance on the Podcast. You should not rely upon the ...
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