From Trauma to Transformation: How Inner Work Shapes Better Business Leaders with Amy Elizabeth Fox
03/19/25 • 48 min
Mobius Executive Leadership CEO Amy Elizabeth Fox discusses how addressing trauma and fostering personal growth creates more effective business leaders and healthier corporate cultures. Learn how combining psychological insights with leadership development drives sustainable organizational change.
Key Takeaways:
💡Sustainable leadership change requires addressing underlying trauma and psychological patterns
💡Creating psychological safety is essential for organizational transformation
💡Leader self-transformation is key to facilitating broader organizational change
💡Personal trauma influences executive behavior and team dynamics.
💡Trauma-informed approaches to leadership development yield better long-term results
💡Personal healing work translates to better business outcomes and ethical decision-making
💡The pandemic of superficiality in corporate culture hinders genuine connection
Quotes:
🎤"To be a vessel of others or societal transformation, one has to place oneself in a constant process of self-transformation."
🎤"Until you can step back and turn back to pay attention to what were those defining events and start to integrate them, both the memory and the emotion - you're really inhibited by the footprint of those events in your psyche."
🎤"There are two big secrets in corporate life. The first is the level of trauma and regression that senior leaders are making their choices from... The other secret is the precious gold mine of spirituality that's under the conference table."
🎤"You don't have to teach people how to love. You don't have to teach people how to open their heart... You just have to get rid of the conditions that live in organizations that are hindrances to those things."
Keywords:
✅ Vertical Development
✅executive leadership development
✅organizational transformation
✅trauma-informed leadership
✅corporate culture change
✅business psychology
✅leadership coaching
✅emotional intelligence
✅workplace wellness
✅personal development
Hashtags: #LeadershipDevelopment #OrganizationalChange #TraumaInformed #CorporateCulture #ExecutiveCoaching #WorkplaceMentalHealth #BusinessTransformation #EmotionalIntelligence #PersonalGrowth #LeadershipTraining
🙏 Thanks to: @amyelizabethfox, @mobius-executive-leadership
Show Links:
🔥Mobius Executive Leadership YouTube Channel
🔥The Next Practice Institute - 2025 Gathering
🔥Look: How to Pay Attention in a Distracted World (Christian Madsbjerg)
🔥Trauma Informed Coaching Program
Disclaimer:
***The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only and any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. This Podcast should not be considered professional advice.***
Credits: Written, produced and hosted by: Mary Schaub. Theme song written by: Mary Schaub. Mixing Engineer: Dylan Yauch
Contact: Tell us how your transformation is going. Email us at [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at (631) 371-3240 and we may play it on a future episode.
Website: M. Schaub Advisory (MSA)
** Shobukai Shift is a MSA Production **
Mobius Executive Leadership CEO Amy Elizabeth Fox discusses how addressing trauma and fostering personal growth creates more effective business leaders and healthier corporate cultures. Learn how combining psychological insights with leadership development drives sustainable organizational change.
Key Takeaways:
💡Sustainable leadership change requires addressing underlying trauma and psychological patterns
💡Creating psychological safety is essential for organizational transformation
💡Leader self-transformation is key to facilitating broader organizational change
💡Personal trauma influences executive behavior and team dynamics.
💡Trauma-informed approaches to leadership development yield better long-term results
💡Personal healing work translates to better business outcomes and ethical decision-making
💡The pandemic of superficiality in corporate culture hinders genuine connection
Quotes:
🎤"To be a vessel of others or societal transformation, one has to place oneself in a constant process of self-transformation."
🎤"Until you can step back and turn back to pay attention to what were those defining events and start to integrate them, both the memory and the emotion - you're really inhibited by the footprint of those events in your psyche."
🎤"There are two big secrets in corporate life. The first is the level of trauma and regression that senior leaders are making their choices from... The other secret is the precious gold mine of spirituality that's under the conference table."
🎤"You don't have to teach people how to love. You don't have to teach people how to open their heart... You just have to get rid of the conditions that live in organizations that are hindrances to those things."
Keywords:
✅ Vertical Development
✅executive leadership development
✅organizational transformation
✅trauma-informed leadership
✅corporate culture change
✅business psychology
✅leadership coaching
✅emotional intelligence
✅workplace wellness
✅personal development
Hashtags: #LeadershipDevelopment #OrganizationalChange #TraumaInformed #CorporateCulture #ExecutiveCoaching #WorkplaceMentalHealth #BusinessTransformation #EmotionalIntelligence #PersonalGrowth #LeadershipTraining
🙏 Thanks to: @amyelizabethfox, @mobius-executive-leadership
Show Links:
🔥Mobius Executive Leadership YouTube Channel
🔥The Next Practice Institute - 2025 Gathering
🔥Look: How to Pay Attention in a Distracted World (Christian Madsbjerg)
🔥Trauma Informed Coaching Program
Disclaimer:
***The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only and any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. This Podcast should not be considered professional advice.***
Credits: Written, produced and hosted by: Mary Schaub. Theme song written by: Mary Schaub. Mixing Engineer: Dylan Yauch
Contact: Tell us how your transformation is going. Email us at [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at (631) 371-3240 and we may play it on a future episode.
Website: M. Schaub Advisory (MSA)
** Shobukai Shift is a MSA Production **
Previous Episode
Tolerating Unexpected Change
A deeply personal discussion of change management, self-discovery, and transforming unexpected challenges into opportunities for growth. The episode delves into personal change appetite, mindset flexibility, and the power of embracing life's unpredictable moments.
Takeaways:
💡 Change can be uncomfortable, but it often leads to unexpected insights and opportunities
💡 Our reaction to unexpected changes often stems from past experiences and learned behaviors
💡 Developing a flexible mindset is crucial for personal and professional growth
💡 Mistakes and unexpected events can be reframed as valuable learning experiences
💡 Self-awareness is key to understanding and managing our emotional responses to change
Compelling Quotes:
🎤 "The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance." - Alan Watts
🎤 "We don't make mistakes, we just have happy accidents." - Bob Ross
🎤 "We can only contribute positively to the outside world if we're operating positively from within." - Mary Schaub
🎤 "Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell." - Edward Abbey
🎤 "Each one of us is the writer and protagonist of our story, of our lives. I hope you're writing something amazing for your lead character to experience." - Mary Schaub
Keywords:
✅ Personal transformation ✅Change management ✅Mindset resilience
✅Self-discovery ✅Emotional intelligence ✅Personal growth ✅Adaptability
✅Mistake learning
Disclaimer:
***The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only and any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. This Podcast should not be considered professional advice.***
Credits: Written, produced and hosted by: Mary Schaub. Theme song written by: Mary Schaub. Mixing Engineer: Dylan Yauch
Contact: Tell us how your transformation is going. Email us at [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at (631) 371-3240 and we may play it on a future episode.
Website: M. Schaub Advisory (MSA)
** Shobukai Shift is a MSA Production **
Next Episode
Embracing Uncertainty: Why It's Hard & How to Navigate It
In this conversation, Mary Schaub explores the theme of uncertainty in today's world, emphasizing the importance of self-discovery and inner work. She discusses the challenges of navigating change and the necessity of embracing equanimity to foster personal growth. Through personal anecdotes and philosophical insights, she encourages listeners to reflect on their own experiences with uncertainty and to prioritize their inner well-being as a means to contribute positively to society.
Key Takeaways:
💡Uncertainty is inevitable. The world has always been unpredictable, and resisting change only makes it harder.
💡Our aversion to change is deeply rooted. From societal norms to neurological wiring, humans are primed to prefer stability.
💡Control is an illusion. The need for control often stems from past experiences, anxiety, or fear of failure.
💡Equanimity is the answer. Developing inner stability helps us navigate change with resilience.
💡You are the protagonist of your story. Embracing self-awareness and intentionality shapes a meaningful life.
Compelling Quotes:
🎤“We may be in distress, but we’re not damsels. No one is coming to rescue us.”
🎤“Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.” – Edward Abbey
🎤“When the winds of change blow, some people build walls, and others build windmills.” – Chinese Proverb
🎤“Only when you can be extremely pliable and soft, can you be extremely hard and strong.” – Zen Proverb
🎤“You are the protagonist of the story you are writing for yourself.”
Keywords:
✅Dealing with uncertainty
✅Fear of change
✅How to embrace change
✅Why change is hard
✅Letting go of control
✅Psychological resistance to change
✅Stoicism and change
✅Growth mindset and transformation
✅Navigating uncertainty in life
Hashtags:
#ShobukaiShift #ChangeManagement #EmbracingUncertainty #FearOfChange #PersonalGrowth #MindsetShift #Stoicism #SelfDiscovery #LettingGo #Equanimity #NavigatingChange
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Disclaimer:
***The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only and any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. This Podcast should not be considered professional advice.***
Credits: Written, produced and hosted by: Mary Schaub. Theme song written by: Mary Schaub. Mixing Engineer: Dylan Yauch
Contact: Tell us how your transformation is going. Email us at [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at (631) 371-3240 and we may play it on a future episode.
Website: M. Schaub Advisory (MSA)
** Shobukai Shift is a MSA Production **
Shobukai Shift - From Trauma to Transformation: How Inner Work Shapes Better Business Leaders with Amy Elizabeth Fox
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Mary Schaub (00:10)
since 2005, Amy Elizabeth Fox has served as the founder and CEO of Mobius Executive Leadership, a global firm advising Fortune 500 companies on transformational leadership. She's a psychotherapist, trauma-informed coach, and she leads the groundbreaking Trauma-Informed Coaching Certification Program. Amy is also on the guest faculty for the African Leadership Institute's Desmond Tutu Fellow Program at Oxford and the University of Chicago's Leadership and Society Progr
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