
Abstractions and implementations
11/22/24 • 53 min
1 Listener
Hazel Weakly joins Justin and Autumn to talk about when to build abstractions and how to implement them. They also share experiences from tech conferences, and delve into the importance of building community and psychological safety in tech environments.
Changelog++ members save 9 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today!
Sponsors:
- Sentry – Code breaks, fix it faster. Use the code CHANGELOG when you sign up to get $100 off the team plan. Don’t just observe. Take action. Sentry is the only app monitoring platform built for developers that gets to the root cause for every issue. 100,000+ growing teams use sentry to find problems fast.
- Timescale – Purpose-built performance for AI Build RAG, search, and AI agents on the cloud and with PostgreSQL and purpose-built extensions for AI: pgvector, pgvectorscale, and pgai.
- Retool – The low-code platform for developers to build internal tools — Some of the best teams out there trust Retool...Brex, Coinbase, Plaid, Doordash, LegalGenius, Amazon, Allbirds, Peloton, and so many more – the developers at these teams trust Retool as the platform to build their internal tools. Try it free at retool.com/changelog
Featuring:
- Hazel Weakly – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
- Justin Garrison – GitHub, LinkedIn, X
- Autumn Nash – GitHub, LinkedIn, X
Show Notes:
InterviewSomething missing or broken? PRs welcome!
Hazel Weakly joins Justin and Autumn to talk about when to build abstractions and how to implement them. They also share experiences from tech conferences, and delve into the importance of building community and psychological safety in tech environments.
Changelog++ members save 9 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today!
Sponsors:
- Sentry – Code breaks, fix it faster. Use the code CHANGELOG when you sign up to get $100 off the team plan. Don’t just observe. Take action. Sentry is the only app monitoring platform built for developers that gets to the root cause for every issue. 100,000+ growing teams use sentry to find problems fast.
- Timescale – Purpose-built performance for AI Build RAG, search, and AI agents on the cloud and with PostgreSQL and purpose-built extensions for AI: pgvector, pgvectorscale, and pgai.
- Retool – The low-code platform for developers to build internal tools — Some of the best teams out there trust Retool...Brex, Coinbase, Plaid, Doordash, LegalGenius, Amazon, Allbirds, Peloton, and so many more – the developers at these teams trust Retool as the platform to build their internal tools. Try it free at retool.com/changelog
Featuring:
- Hazel Weakly – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
- Justin Garrison – GitHub, LinkedIn, X
- Autumn Nash – GitHub, LinkedIn, X
Show Notes:
InterviewSomething missing or broken? PRs welcome!
Previous Episode

Hosting Hachyderm
Preston Doster joins the show to tell us what it takes to run a Mastodon server with 55,000 accounts and 11,000 monthly active users.
Changelog++ members save 10 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today!
Sponsors:
- Sentry – Code breaks, fix it faster. Use the code CHANGELOG when you sign up to get $100 off the team plan. Don’t just observe. Take action. Sentry is the only app monitoring platform built for developers that gets to the root cause for every issue. 100,000+ growing teams use sentry to find problems fast.
- System Initiative – The future of DevOps automation (is here!) — System Initiative is an intuitive, powerful, collaborative replacement for Infrastructure as Code (IaC). The free tier is awesome (no credit card required) and you can get started in 3 clicks.
- Timescale – Purpose-built performance for AI Build RAG, search, and AI agents on the cloud and with PostgreSQL and purpose-built extensions for AI: pgvector, pgvectorscale, and pgai.
Featuring:
- Preston Doster – GitHub, Mastodon
- Justin Garrison – GitHub, LinkedIn, X
- Autumn Nash – GitHub, LinkedIn, X
Show Notes:
InterviewOne correction about the cost to run Hachyderm. Preston said it’s about $600/mo and after the interview emailed me to let me know it’s closer to $1000/mo
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!
Next Episode

Public safety Kubernetes
Marc Boorshtein from Tremolo Security joins Justin & Autumn to talk all about running Kubernetes in the public sector.
Changelog++ members save 8 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today!
Sponsors:
- System Initiative – The future of DevOps automation (is here!) — System Initiative is an intuitive, powerful, collaborative replacement for Infrastructure as Code (IaC). The free tier is awesome (no credit card required) and you can get started in 3 clicks.
- Retool – The low-code platform for developers to build internal tools — Some of the best teams out there trust Retool...Brex, Coinbase, Plaid, Doordash, LegalGenius, Amazon, Allbirds, Peloton, and so many more – the developers at these teams trust Retool as the platform to build their internal tools. Try it free at retool.com/changelog
- Timescale – Purpose-built performance for AI Build RAG, search, and AI agents on the cloud and with PostgreSQL and purpose-built extensions for AI: pgvector, pgvectorscale, and pgai.
Featuring:
- Marc Boorshtein – GitHub, LinkedIn, X
- Justin Garrison – GitHub, LinkedIn, X
- Autumn Nash – GitHub, LinkedIn, X
Show Notes:
- Kubernetes Authentication and Namespace as a Service
- Kubernetes Authentication and SSO
- Introduction - External Secrets Operator
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!
Ship It! Cloud, SRE, Platform Engineering - Abstractions and implementations
Transcript
Hello and welcome to Ship It, the podcast all about everything after git push. I'm your host, Justin Garrison, and with me, as always, is a very jealous Autumn Nash. How's it going, Autumn?
Autumn Nash:Just -- this is our relationship at this point. Like, you just just rub it all in. It's like, "Look at my 3D printer when you don't have one." Oh, I just went to dinner with Angie Jones, your hero in life... And no
If you like this episode you’ll love
Episode Comments
Generate a badge
Get a badge for your website that links back to this episode
<a href="https://goodpods.com/podcasts/ship-it-cloud-sre-platform-engineering-179983/abstractions-and-implementations-78697382"> <img src="https://storage.googleapis.com/goodpods-images-bucket/badges/generic-badge-1.svg" alt="listen to abstractions and implementations on goodpods" style="width: 225px" /> </a>
Copy