Episode 25- It takes a village to help heal trauma with Dr Petria Thoresen
03/23/23 • 72 min
Welcome to episode 25.
Today I had the pleasure of speaking with Dr Petria Thoresen, psychologist, from STAND for CHILDREN/Stand Tū Māia based in New Zealand.
Integrated Listening Australia is the official Distributor of the SSP and Focus System for Australia and New Zealand and has been supporting STAND for a number of years. STAND began implementing the SSP in 2019 and has over 40 staff trained. They also support their community with the Focus system and IOM2 Interactive Biofeedback program.
New Zealand has experienced a number of traumas over the last few years- earthquakes, a mass shooting, pandemic lockdowns, and floods. Petria explains how STAND embeds native culture and a philosophy that it takes a village..... in supporting children and families who have experienced trauma. Their model may be a good reference for other organizations.
Some key points...listen in to find out more.
- It takes a village to help heal trauma
- Theraplay
- Music therapy as a post-SSP session to help wire in reciprocal interactions, mirroring, vocalizations, and creativity- important elements of the Social Engagement System
- Multi-model therapy to treat trauma- ISTSS best practices
- Intense therapy model for trauma
- SSP implementation refined in real time- driven by practitioner feedback
- Community heals- we are better together
- Phased sequenced approach to complex trauma
- We are "people alongside people' in healing trauma
Petria references 3 papers:
Adolescents | Free Full-Text | Trauma-Related Internalizing and Externalizing Behaviors in Adolescence: A Bridge between Psychoanalysis and Neuroscience (mdpi.com)
Multimodal Therapy: A Unifying Approach to Psychotherapy | Psychology Today
Dr Petria Thöresen, PhD is a fully certified Theraplay® Therapist/Supervisor and
Trainer. Petria completed her PhD in Psychology at Canterbury University,
New Zealand. Petria has a Post Graduate degree in Teaching & Learning, Post Graduate Diploma in Science- Child and Family Psychology, and a Post Graduate Diploma in Psychological Practice and is a New Zealand Registered Psychologist.
Petria is currently working as a Therapeutic Practice Leader Pou Heke with Stand
Children’s Services ensuring the ethical and culturally safe practice of Theraplay®
as well as other interventions such as Clinical Hypnotherapy, Brainspotting, Safe & Sound Protocol and HRV Biofeedback, Neurofeedback, and Poly Vagal Therapy etc.
The daily focus of Stand Tū Māia is to provide transformative services to tamariki,
mokopuna, and whānau that Support responsive relationships, reduce sources of
stress in their lives and strengthen self-regulation and core executive skills. Stand Tū
Māia has seven sites across NZ.
She can be contacted at [email protected]
Please support my work by sharing this episode with a friend or colleague:)
Welcome to episode 25.
Today I had the pleasure of speaking with Dr Petria Thoresen, psychologist, from STAND for CHILDREN/Stand Tū Māia based in New Zealand.
Integrated Listening Australia is the official Distributor of the SSP and Focus System for Australia and New Zealand and has been supporting STAND for a number of years. STAND began implementing the SSP in 2019 and has over 40 staff trained. They also support their community with the Focus system and IOM2 Interactive Biofeedback program.
New Zealand has experienced a number of traumas over the last few years- earthquakes, a mass shooting, pandemic lockdowns, and floods. Petria explains how STAND embeds native culture and a philosophy that it takes a village..... in supporting children and families who have experienced trauma. Their model may be a good reference for other organizations.
Some key points...listen in to find out more.
- It takes a village to help heal trauma
- Theraplay
- Music therapy as a post-SSP session to help wire in reciprocal interactions, mirroring, vocalizations, and creativity- important elements of the Social Engagement System
- Multi-model therapy to treat trauma- ISTSS best practices
- Intense therapy model for trauma
- SSP implementation refined in real time- driven by practitioner feedback
- Community heals- we are better together
- Phased sequenced approach to complex trauma
- We are "people alongside people' in healing trauma
Petria references 3 papers:
Adolescents | Free Full-Text | Trauma-Related Internalizing and Externalizing Behaviors in Adolescence: A Bridge between Psychoanalysis and Neuroscience (mdpi.com)
Multimodal Therapy: A Unifying Approach to Psychotherapy | Psychology Today
Dr Petria Thöresen, PhD is a fully certified Theraplay® Therapist/Supervisor and
Trainer. Petria completed her PhD in Psychology at Canterbury University,
New Zealand. Petria has a Post Graduate degree in Teaching & Learning, Post Graduate Diploma in Science- Child and Family Psychology, and a Post Graduate Diploma in Psychological Practice and is a New Zealand Registered Psychologist.
Petria is currently working as a Therapeutic Practice Leader Pou Heke with Stand
Children’s Services ensuring the ethical and culturally safe practice of Theraplay®
as well as other interventions such as Clinical Hypnotherapy, Brainspotting, Safe & Sound Protocol and HRV Biofeedback, Neurofeedback, and Poly Vagal Therapy etc.
The daily focus of Stand Tū Māia is to provide transformative services to tamariki,
mokopuna, and whānau that Support responsive relationships, reduce sources of
stress in their lives and strengthen self-regulation and core executive skills. Stand Tū
Māia has seven sites across NZ.
She can be contacted at [email protected]
Please support my work by sharing this episode with a friend or colleague:)
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Episode 24 Stress model and Functional Neurological Disorder (FND) with Clinical Psychologist, Michael Romeo
Welcome to Episode 24. I have the pleasure of speaking with Michael Romeo, Clinical Psychologist, about Functional Neurological Disorder (FND).
Michael has been practicing as a Clinical Psychologist for over 20 years. He began his career as an Adolescent Psychologist. He worked in Bali treating ex-patriates experiencing PTSD following the Bali Bombing in 2002. He has worked as an educator and supervisor for most of his career. Michael lectured at Macquarie University for over ten years and was the International Student Counsellor at The University of Newcastle Counselling Service. Most of his career has focused on treating suicidal behaviours and complex trauma with EMDR, Schema Therapy, DBT and other strengths-based approaches. He currently works in private practice, where his primary clinical interest is treating Functional Neurological Disorders.
This is such a rich discussion as not only is Michael an expert on FND but has lived experience. Listen in for a wealth of information pertinent to both the practitioner and the individual who may be experiencing unexplainable neurological symptoms.
Some of the key points covered include:
- What is FND?
- Disconnection between the brain's hardware and the brain's software
- Neurological symptoms- brain stress response
- Why getting an accurate diagnosis is so important
- The diagnosis acceptance process
- Importance of engaging with therapy to reduce negative neuroplasticity
- Need for a team approach for FND- OT, PT, Yoga, Psychology, .......
- Energy Systems Hypothesis for Functional Seizures
- Stress Model and FND
- Children and Adolescents and FND
- Michael's personal journey with FND
- Virtual Reality for FND
- FND Resources
- Managing the boom and bust of FND
- Role of distraction in recovery
- Dispelling negative expectations and recovery
- SSP for FND- Michael's experience with the SSP- improved mood, energy, less brain fog, and a sense of calm.
Resources we spoke about include:
https://www.neurosymptoms.org/en/
https://fndhope.org/
https://fndaus.org.au/
SSP and FND Paper in Harvard Review of Psychiatry tells the story of MT, a 10-year-old girl with Functional Neurological Disorder (FND) (Rajabalee, et al. 2022).
Neuromodulation Using Computer-Altered Music to Treat a Ten-Year-Old Child Unresponsive to Standard Interventions for Functional Neurological Disorder
SSP Course is designed for practitioners to implement the Safe and Sound Protocol in their therapy
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Episode 26- Dr Rebecca Bailey- Polyvagal Equine Assisted Therapy & SSP for Horses.
It is with the utmost pleasure I speak with Rebecca Bailey PhD. Polyvagal Equine Institute (PVEI) Founder.
Dr . Bailey is a leading trauma therapist who specializes in complex case scenarios. She has over 30 years of experience in the field and continues to be dedicated to the notion that authenticity, common sense, and kindness are the most important elements of effective treatment. She is a lifelong equestrian and animal lover who continues to believe animals, in particular horses, have much to teach humans about curiosity and compassion.
She is the author of two books: Safe Kids: Smart Parents and Equine Connections: Polyvagal Principles as well as articles on Polyvagal principles in the courtroom and the application of equine interventions to a variety of populations.
I loved speaking with Rebecca and am so looking forward to our ongoing collaboration about implementing SSP with stressed and anxious horses as well as horse and rider connection. I hope you enjoy our conversation, some of the topics we discuss include:
- How Equines were pivotal in her work with supporting Jaycee Dugard who was abducted for 18 years
- Rethinking Stockholm Syndrome to a new "Appeasement" Framework- Published paper the result of a collaboration including Dr Stephen Porges- see link below
- Forming the Polyvagal Equine Institute with Co-Founders Jaycee Dugard and Margie McDonald
- What is it about horses that make them an ideal collaborator to help humans learn about their nervous systems?
- Horses' entire existence is neuroception
- How PVEI differs from other equine-assisted therapies
- Carousel analogy as another metaphor option from Deb Dana's Polyvagal Ladder
- Polyvagal Equine work- moving away from talk therapy to body-based work
- Polyvagal principles working with Law Enforcement and Judges.
- The lessons practitioners can learn about their own nervous systems from Equine work to help them better support clients
- Horses as conduits for connection
- Horses and "mind reading"- or highly tuned neuroceptive systems
- "Sensing in"- how horses help teach us humans to be attuned to other humans
- SSP for horses to help decrease anxiety- an exciting project we plan to collaborate on together- contact us for more information- [email protected]
- Our personal experience using the SSP with our horses
- Training opportunities at PVEI
Link to Polyvagal Equine Institute
Appeasement: replacing Stockholm syndrome as a definition of a survival strategy
Rebecca Bailey, Jaycee Dugard, Stefanie F. Smith & Stephen W. Porges
Article: 2161038 | Received 25 Jul 2022, Accepted 07 Dec 2022, Published online: 19 Jan 2023
Books
Equine Connections: Polyvagal Principles
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