Safe and Sound Protocol (SSP) Podcast- A Polyvagal Theory Informed Therapy - Episode 10: Discussion of "Resilience and Relationships" with psychologists and Extra Lesson faculty, Annette Barone & Dr Mariane Judd.

Episode 10: Discussion of "Resilience and Relationships" with psychologists and Extra Lesson faculty, Annette Barone & Dr Mariane Judd.

06/21/20 • 68 min

Safe and Sound Protocol (SSP) Podcast- A Polyvagal Theory Informed Therapy

Please join Extra Lesson Healing Trauma Conference presenters - Mariane Judd, Annette Barone and Joanne McIntyre discuss key themes of the conference.
Mariane explores the cases of children who are returning to school after being in lockdown due to the current pandemic and their struggles with self-regulation. We discuss strategies to support families and children with transitioning back to school.
More importantly, we reveal some strategies that teachers could implement to facilitate feelings of "safety" and to promote connection in the classroom which will ultimately lead to better emotional regulation, attention and learning.
Marianne elaborates on one of her cases of a child with an activated "sympathetic state" and who is struggling with learning at school. She connects his story to a sense of shame and further explores this in regards to EMDR and the importance of relationships in healing.
We propose a "multi-layered approach" to effectively work with families.
Mariane shares some important research connecting Zinc to the uptake of Oxytocin and the connection to the prevalence of Gut issues in many children with ASD or individuals experiencing anxiety.
You will hear about Dr Robert Sapolsky's work and his book...."Why Zebras don't get Ulcers" covering the biology of stress. His documentary " Stress, Portrait of a Killer" is so interesting and highly recommended (I love this guys work by the way!)
Parents can often feel alone and criticized for their children's behaviour, Mariane and Annette explore our role as practitioners in providing support and a safe space.
We have a wonderful discussion about the power of using the body via movement to support the nervous systems of those who have experienced trauma. The work of Dr Bruce Perry and Dr Bessel van der Kolk, both leading thinkers in the trauma world, also speak to the importance of such rhythmical motor patterns.
Learn about the concept of "Child Study" and what that could possibly bring to education as a whole.
Of course, we also discuss the Polyvagal Theory applications in therapy!
Please see the link for the Extra Lesson Conference 2020: Healing Trauma
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undefined - Episode 9 - Kim Barthel- Relationships matter in developing resilience. "The only person you can change is yourself" practice self care as a way to help others.

Episode 9 - Kim Barthel- Relationships matter in developing resilience. "The only person you can change is yourself" practice self care as a way to help others.

Today it is my great pleasure to be speaking with Kim Barthel, Occupational Therapist, from Canada. Kim is a much-loved teacher, speaker and mentor to many. Kim has a gift for connecting diverse ideas, neuroscience and people in the service of supporting resiliency and health worldwide. Kim weaves the neurobiology of interpersonal relationships with sensory-motor neural systems to widen our understanding of the human spirit and healing. Kim has extensive experience working with individuals and communities across multiple settings such as First Nations People, children and adults who have experienced trauma, children on the autism spectrum and with sensory processing difficulties. She has worked with people who have experienced natural disasters, who live in war zones, and refugee camps.

In this interview, Kim shares her knowledge of the brain-body connection in helping people with trauma. That, when we are in a defensive state the access to our cortex, the “thinking” brain for self-talk, reasoning and listening, is inhibited or offline impacting impulsive or reactive responses but also impacting the ability to learn. Something many kids may be struggling with right now with schooling shifting to online platforms.

Helping loved ones, friends, clients and our society overall, starts with working on ourselves. Porges speaks about Neuroception, the subconscious cues of safety we send and receive. The micro-movements in body language, facial gesture and vocal inflection all indicate what state our nervous system is in.....parasympathetic-calm or sympathetic- activated. Each Nervous system impacts each other. Kim explains that creating change starts with ourselves.Please listen for more about"

Cues of Safety- Safety as "Body felt"
Relationships and resilience
Healing by giving
SSP as a body approach
Steps in healing

For more information about Kim and to learn about speaking engagements and workshops please see her website https://www.kimbarthel.ca/
Please see Kim's Book- "Conversations with a Rattlesnake" - The Book
Can be purchased through her website as well as other popular carriers
As powerful advocates for mental health, NHL legend Theo Fleury and world-renowned therapist Kim Barthel team up in the national best-seller Conversations with a Rattlesnake. The book is a raw and honest conversation, loaded with personal insights and cutting-edge information regarding healing from trauma and abuse.

Fleury calls Barthel the “Wayne Gretzky of therapy”, and within their emotionally-safe relationship, he bares his soul so that others can learn from his mistakes, triumphs and new learning. Fleury’s story will inspire not only those overcoming their own trauma, but friends, parents, teachers, coaches, therapists, and health practitioners-anyone who is in the critical position of supporting someone who needs to share their own story.

Co-author Kim Barthel, provides an in-depth explanation of early childhood attachment and addiction that tie into the reasoning behind our behaviours, and the science of how our brains work. Barthel explains how understanding groundbreaking scientific and psychological research can eliminate the unnecessary and damaging shame that so often accompanies abuse and trauma. Her dialogue with Fleury illuminates self-awareness, mindfulness and the power of relationships.

Fleury’s life experiences and Barthel’s informed interpretation combine to provide a unique look at the healing process that is easy to read, entertaining and transformation

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Episode 11: Interview with Dr Michael Graziano from Princeton about Peripersonal Space the protective bubble about our body.

When I thought about starting this podcast Michael was at the top of my list of people to speak with. I thoroughly enjoyed his book, "The Spaces Between Us." Reading it from a Polyagal lens I could not help but make many connections......I hope you do too!
Please enjoy this incredibly interesting discussion with Micheal Graziano, Professor of Neuroscience and Psychology at Princeton University, author of both novels and science books, his most recent book is Rethinking Consciousness.
In this episode, you will learn about:

Peripersonal neurons processing the space about our body like a layer of bubble wrap
Multi-sensory neurons in the motor strip of the brain....what!
A subconscious neural system with sophisticated computational processing for visual auditory and tactile stimuli moving toward the body triggering defensive responses to protect it.........what happens if these computations are inaccurate?
The vestibular system .... "acts as a glue to bind the senses together- without it- those neurons may not be able to build their properties correctly. You wouldn't know where you are with respect to the world or where objects are with respect to you- the peripersonal mechanism would be crippled."
Spatial boundaries and body schema in relation to processing self to the environment.
How stress impacts the startle reflex and rethinking the startle as a social messaging system.
How our peripersonal space expands to encompass the tools we use....eating utensils, writing implements, hammers........what happens when this system crashes!
Evolution of the smile
How our emotions impact the protective bubble about our bodies
The devastating social impact of Dyspraxia, which is the difficulty coordinating the body in space

To find out more about Michael- https://pni.princeton.edu/faculty/michael-graziano

Books by Michael- https://www.amazon.com/Michael-S-A-Graziano/e/B001JS3WKW

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