Physician NonClinical Careers with John Jurica

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Dr. Jennie Byrne completed her MD and PhD in Neurophysiology at the NYU Grossman School of Medicine. She completed her psychiatry residency at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai. She has worked in many roles during her long career and continues to practice psychiatry part-time. She has held advisory and executive leadership roles as well.

Dr. Byrne is the founder and CEO of Constellation PLLC and the Co-Founder and Advisor at Belong Health. She has been called a “Triple Threat” because of her work as a physician leader, a healthcare executive, and an entrepreneur. She is a brain and behavior specialist with extensive training and experience in psychiatry, psychotherapy, and neuroscience.

Her book Moral Injury: Healing the Healers illuminates the often-overlooked concept of moral injury, offering a fresh perspective on the challenges facing healthcare professionals today. Dr. Byrne asserts that the issue lies not in individuals' resilience but in the systemic factors perpetuating moral injury within healthcare systems. Drawing parallels between healthcare and other workplaces, the book highlights the damaging consequences of outdated models and language.

During our interview, Dr. Byrne describes the hallmark features of moral injury and provides examples of colleagues, clients, and patients who have experienced it. She offers a metaphor for understanding moral injury. She closes our interview with examples of ways to help others overcome moral injury at both a personal level and as leaders in a large organization.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/overcome-moral-injury/

Dr. Jessica Lubahn is a urologist, health writer, and consultant. She is also the founder of ONDRwear, an apparel company that sells luxe leakproof underwear. Jessica tells me that she created this company to destigmatize urinary, menstrual, and other leakage through the creation of products that are highly effective and beautiful.

Dr. Lubahn received her medical degree at the Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis. Then, she completed her surgical internship and urology residency at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical School.

Here are the major steps that Jessica followed in creating her new apparel company:

1. Identify a problem experienced by her patients.
2. Create the prototype of a potential solution, in this case, a tangible product.
3. Research the industry, network, and determine if creating the product is feasible.
4. Establish the business, and engage an accountant, attorney, and other necessary professionals.
5. For her physical product, create a design or blueprint and find a manufacturer.
6. Create a website and social media accounts, and develop a marketing plan.
7. Start selling the product.

The process Jessica followed is quite similar to the way that Greg Hanson started his business in last week’s episode #170.

If you’d like to check out the Onderwear company, go to ondrwear.com. It's a very nicely designed and presented website, and I think you can still get a 15% discount on its well-designed clothing.

Go to the show notes at nonclinicalphysicians.com/best-new-business-solves-a-problem for all of the links.

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In this week’s show, John provides a short update on what’s going on with NewScript, and the Nonclinical Career Academy. And he spends a minute or two sharing updates on two of his most popular guests.

He spends the rest of the show sharing his answer to a question offered by one of his listeners: Is coaching/consulting by a career expert to overcome very specific challenges worth the cost of the coaching?

As John explains during the episode, it depends on severral factors, including the complexity of the problem, the specificity of the problem, and the skills and reputation of the coach.

While there is sometimes no objective answer to a question like this, John describes how he would approach the question. And he offers advice on how to optimize your chance of getting the most from the relationship. He also explains why coaching and consulting appear to be expensive, yet offer abundant value to the coachee.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/whats-new/

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Dr. Mark Olszyk completed his medical degree at the Columbia University Vagelos College of Physicians and Surgeons in New York City, and a residency in Emergency Medicine at the Naval Medical Center in San Diego. He completed his MBA in 2006. He is a Certified Physician Executive through the Certifying Commission in Medical Management.

He practiced emergency medicine before taking on management and leadership positions in a variety of settings. For the past 11 years, he has served as the Chief Medical Officer for Carroll Hospital in Westminster, Maryland.

In 2023, working with the American Association for Physician Leadership’s publishing arm, Mark brought together a team of experts to write and edit The Chief Medical Officers’ Essential Guidebook. As Dr. Peter Angood, AAPL CEO, writes in the forward to the book, ”The book was written for those interested in pursuing, refining, or hiring the role of chief medical officer...The authors provide a timely and well-constructed treatise on the many aspects of being, or becoming, a successful CMO...In short, there is no other resource in the market on this topic that can rival the thoroughness and completeness of the book.”

In today’s interview, Mark shares the story of his leadership journey and the challenges of editing the Guidebook. He also shares advice for fledgling physician leaders based on the book and his personal experiences leading healthcare organizations.

You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/outstanding-cmo/

The Medical Science Liaison (MSL) in the pharmaceutical industry is a popular position for physicians who wish to leave clinical practice. This is true because it is possible to qualify for the job regardless of the extent of training (i.e., whether residency-trained or board certified, or not) or specialty; it does not require special certifications or degrees (beyond a medical degree); and it provides a moderate amount of flexibility to work part of the time from home. However, it often involves traveling to meet with clients up to 60% of the time.

John created a six-lesson course called How to Secure a Career as a Medical Science Liaison for the Nonclinical Career Academy. And he has taken excerpts from that course for PNC Podcast Episodes 276 and 277. By presenting the pros and cons, and an overview of the steps you can take to prepare for a job as an MSL, you will gain a much deeper understanding of the position and whether to pursue it.

He also goes into detail about common tactics used to find a nonclinical career, including converting your CV to a resumé, engaging mentors; networking effectively, creating a LinkedIn profile, and identifying professional organizations that can hasten your progress. The course can be found at: https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/mslcourse.

You will find links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/captivating-career-as-an-msl.

NewScript, a Community of clinicians writing a new script for their careers and lives, is accepting new members. The easiest way to check it out is to go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/newscript. The monthly fee of under $5 is locked in for life.

However, the fee will be going up to $7.99 per month on Sunday, December 11, 2022. So, get all of the fantastic resources and join a community of like-minded healthcare professionals by going to nonclinicalphysicians.com/newscript TODAY before the monthly fee increases.

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