
E060 Military and Civilian HR with MSgt (Ret) Gayle Elliot
04/02/24 • 63 min
Passionately Wrong Podcast Episode E060
Interview - Gayle Elliot
Key takeaway: Far more important than what happens to us are the narratives we tell ourselves about what our story means. Gayle describes some of the many lessons she learned in 20 years in the Air Force and now working in HR in a private company.
Topics covered in this video:
- Gayle’s background, and her and Randy’s overlap in Colombia
- How she joined the Air Force out of high school
- Further training, in and out of the military, and further degrees
- What Organizational Development is and how Gayle works at her current job
- Myths and misconceptions about HR - decisions by matrix, do HR staff always keep a proper demeanor, what master HR ultimately serves, social issues, being the messenger
- Taking people as individuals doesn’t mean one has to be a people person
- Just one thing a man can do in the women’s restroom
- HR helps employees best if they feel this: that they are seen, heard, and considered
- The significance of narratives, and how we can use them to our advantage
- HR as party planners
- Gayle’s advice for younger generations entering the workforce
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YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCggxZuXzexBtEhsX_TpV5yQ
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James' Klugne Webpage: https://www.klugne.com/
Randy's Editor Webpage: https://randysurles.com/
Passionately Wrong Podcast Episode E060
Interview - Gayle Elliot
Key takeaway: Far more important than what happens to us are the narratives we tell ourselves about what our story means. Gayle describes some of the many lessons she learned in 20 years in the Air Force and now working in HR in a private company.
Topics covered in this video:
- Gayle’s background, and her and Randy’s overlap in Colombia
- How she joined the Air Force out of high school
- Further training, in and out of the military, and further degrees
- What Organizational Development is and how Gayle works at her current job
- Myths and misconceptions about HR - decisions by matrix, do HR staff always keep a proper demeanor, what master HR ultimately serves, social issues, being the messenger
- Taking people as individuals doesn’t mean one has to be a people person
- Just one thing a man can do in the women’s restroom
- HR helps employees best if they feel this: that they are seen, heard, and considered
- The significance of narratives, and how we can use them to our advantage
- HR as party planners
- Gayle’s advice for younger generations entering the workforce
Thanks for listening. If you enjoyed this episode, please like, comment, and subscribe.
Here are ways to connect with us.
YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCggxZuXzexBtEhsX_TpV5yQ
Passionately Wrong Podcast Webpage: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2120466
James' Klugne Webpage: https://www.klugne.com/
Randy's Editor Webpage: https://randysurles.com/
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PW E059 Hiking the Camino de Santiago with Steven Rindahl, founder of Warriors on the Way
Passionately Wrong Podcast Episode E059
Hiking the Camino de Santiago with Steven Rindahl, founder of Warriors on the Way
Key takeaway: Father Rindahl explains the nonprofit Warriors on the Way and its mission to help combat veterans deal with the trauma of PTSD and moral injury (see the prior episode for details). How does a person apply to join the Camino de Santiago pilgrimage, and what will they experience on the journey?
Topics covered in this video:
- How Father Rindahl came to the inspiration to start Warriors on the Way
- The origin story
- Results from participants -what success looks like
- Getting on the list for a pilgrimage
- What Warriors on the Way provides
- What the actual pilgrimage is like, day by day
- Sources of funding
- Being open to being challenged as part of any transformation or learning process
- Advice for people planning to hike the Camino de Santiago
Resources in this video
Thanks for listening. If you enjoyed this episode, please like, comment, and subscribe.
Here are ways to connect with us.
YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCggxZuXzexBtEhsX_TpV5yQ
Passionately Wrong Podcast Webpage: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2120466
James' Klugne Webpage: https://www.klugne.com/
Randy's Editor Webpage: https://randysurles.com/
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PW E061 Stuff – What Our Possessions Say About Us
Passionately Wrong Podcast Episode E061
Stuff – What Our Possessions Say About Us
Key takeaway: We have more stuff than ever, but is having it making us happier? If not, why not? Randy and James explore what things they had at different points in their lives, what have been the things of lasting value, and how to make our possessions serve our purposes.
Topics covered in this video:
- What was important to us as teenagers in high school
- Parents providing things for their kids
- How the military affected Randy’s attitude toward possessions
- The impact of (a) a place to put things and (b) how much one moves
- What of our possessions end up having enduring value and why?
- The transformation of media (books, music, movies) into digital form
- Why the cost of our possessions is much more than the purchase price
- Our things have utility for us and also serve a signaling function
- What would we take with us if we had only 30 seconds to grab something?
- Possessions also serve for many as a proxy of something else they’re trying to get (happiness)
- What happens to other people’s stuff when they pass away?
- People are not their wealth or their things; family heirlooms
- It can be a mistake to assume buying stuff will make us happy
- Ask yourself what purpose your possessions are serving, and to what extent they are fulfilling that purpose.
- Why having so much of our lives online makes it easier to pare down physical stuff
- Some of Randy’s and James’s favorite things
Resources in this video
What Happens To All The Obsolete Technology?
Thanks for listening. If you enjoyed this episode, please like, comment, and subscribe.
Here are ways to connect with us.
YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCggxZuXzexBtEhsX_TpV5yQ
Passionately Wrong Podcast Webpage: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2120466
James' Klugne Webpage: https://www.klugne.com/
Randy's Editor Webpage: https://randysurles.com/
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