
Real Talk About Fentanyl, Opioids, & Marijuana
04/04/24 • 53 min
Like it or not, fentanyl, other opioids, and marijuana are part of our boys’ world.
“It is very easy to get drugs on social media,” says Michelle Leopold, a mother who’s son, Trevor, died after taking a pill he purchase online.
Ignoring these uncomfortable fact isn’t helpful. We have to educate ourselves and educate our boys. Here’s why:
Marijuana harms young brainsToday’s marijuana and marijuana-based products are far stronger than those of the past.
“It’s so important to learn about today’s marijuana,”Michelle says. Although marijuana and THC products are now legal in many states, study after study has shown that these products are not safe for developing brains.
Fentanyl killsIn 2019, Trevor, age 18, swallowed a blue pill he thought was oxycodone. It wasn’t.
Despite its markings, there was no oxycodone in the pill. The pill Trevor purchased was a counterfeit pill, & it contained fentanyl, a narcotic that’s 100 times more powerful than morphine, 50 times more powerful than heroin—and lethal at just a few grains.
Trevor didn’t get high; Trevor died.
According to the US. Dept of Justice, over 150 people die every day from overdoses related to synthetic opioids like fentanyl. As many as 7 in 10 counterfeit pills — pills sold online & purported to be oxycodone or other “prescription” meds — may now contain a lethal dose of fentanyl.
“People now need to assume that any drug they don’t get from their pharmacist has fentanyl in it,” Michelle says. “The odds are not in your favor.”
“I am going to use Trevor’s story to prevent other parents from losing their children.” — Michelle Leopold
In this episode, Jen, Janet, & Michelle discuss:- How marijuana can affect teens & families
- Recognizing signs of drug use
- Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome
- Parenting a child who is using substances
- Just Say KNOW vs. Just Say No
- Where teens and young adults are getting drugs & pills
- Getting & using naloxone (Narcan)
- Recognizing & responding to an overdose
Marijuana to Fentanyl: My Son is More Than a Statistic — post by Michelle
www.wearenotalone.community — Michelle’s blog (packed w info!)
Addiction Inoculation w Jessica Lahey — ON BOYS episode
Troubled Boys (w Kenneth R Rosen) — ON BOYS episode
Another View of Wilderness Therapy — ON BOYS episode
http://drugfree.org/ and toll-free Helpline (1-855-DRUGFREE / 1-855-378-4373)
SAMHSA National Helpline 1-800-662-4357 (Confidential free help, from public health agencies, to find substance use treatment and information)
dancesafe.org (Fentanyl Test Strips and Drug Checking Kits)
Adding Naloxone to Your First Aid Kit — Decipher Your Health post (NOTE: Jen now has naloxone in her home)
shatterproof.org — includes a Narcan training video
Al-Anon — support for family & friends of people w alcohol use disorder
Nar-Anon — support for family & friends of people who use narcotics
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Like it or not, fentanyl, other opioids, and marijuana are part of our boys’ world.
“It is very easy to get drugs on social media,” says Michelle Leopold, a mother who’s son, Trevor, died after taking a pill he purchase online.
Ignoring these uncomfortable fact isn’t helpful. We have to educate ourselves and educate our boys. Here’s why:
Marijuana harms young brainsToday’s marijuana and marijuana-based products are far stronger than those of the past.
“It’s so important to learn about today’s marijuana,”Michelle says. Although marijuana and THC products are now legal in many states, study after study has shown that these products are not safe for developing brains.
Fentanyl killsIn 2019, Trevor, age 18, swallowed a blue pill he thought was oxycodone. It wasn’t.
Despite its markings, there was no oxycodone in the pill. The pill Trevor purchased was a counterfeit pill, & it contained fentanyl, a narcotic that’s 100 times more powerful than morphine, 50 times more powerful than heroin—and lethal at just a few grains.
Trevor didn’t get high; Trevor died.
According to the US. Dept of Justice, over 150 people die every day from overdoses related to synthetic opioids like fentanyl. As many as 7 in 10 counterfeit pills — pills sold online & purported to be oxycodone or other “prescription” meds — may now contain a lethal dose of fentanyl.
“People now need to assume that any drug they don’t get from their pharmacist has fentanyl in it,” Michelle says. “The odds are not in your favor.”
“I am going to use Trevor’s story to prevent other parents from losing their children.” — Michelle Leopold
In this episode, Jen, Janet, & Michelle discuss:- How marijuana can affect teens & families
- Recognizing signs of drug use
- Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome
- Parenting a child who is using substances
- Just Say KNOW vs. Just Say No
- Where teens and young adults are getting drugs & pills
- Getting & using naloxone (Narcan)
- Recognizing & responding to an overdose
Marijuana to Fentanyl: My Son is More Than a Statistic — post by Michelle
www.wearenotalone.community — Michelle’s blog (packed w info!)
Addiction Inoculation w Jessica Lahey — ON BOYS episode
Troubled Boys (w Kenneth R Rosen) — ON BOYS episode
Another View of Wilderness Therapy — ON BOYS episode
http://drugfree.org/ and toll-free Helpline (1-855-DRUGFREE / 1-855-378-4373)
SAMHSA National Helpline 1-800-662-4357 (Confidential free help, from public health agencies, to find substance use treatment and information)
dancesafe.org (Fentanyl Test Strips and Drug Checking Kits)
Adding Naloxone to Your First Aid Kit — Decipher Your Health post (NOTE: Jen now has naloxone in her home)
shatterproof.org — includes a Narcan training video
Al-Anon — support for family & friends of people w alcohol use disorder
Nar-Anon — support for family & friends of people who use narcotics
Sponsor Spotlight: ArmoireClothing rental subscription that makes getting dressed easier. Visit
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50/50 Shared Parenting
50/50 shared parenting is good for boys & good for parents.
But it’s not yet the norm, despite decades of research demonstrating the value of shared parenting.
“It’s one part sexism and one part misunderstanding of the latest social science around what it best for kids,” says Emma Johnson, author of The 50/50 Solution: The Surprising Simple Choice that Makes Moms, Dads, and Kids Happier & Healthier After a Divorce. “”Thankfully, we are barreling toward a better future. No one’s really been able to quantify where or how often 50/50 is happening, but it’s definitely better than when I divorced 15 years ago.”
Why 50/50 parenting should be the defaultChildren (and parents) thrive when they have regular, close connection. The exact number of minutes or days children and parents spend together isn’t as important as regular, routine interaction — and that’s what 50/50 shared parenting schedules provide.
“Kids then know, intellectually, emotionally, and in their hearts that my mom and dad are both in it to win it. No one’s going to check out, slip out, or move away. No one’s got the upper hand,” Emma says.
Shared parenting also gives both parents time to practice parenting and time to focus on work, adult connections, and self-care. And seeing both parents actively involved in parenting and work broadens children’s ideas of work and family. As Emma writes in her book, “An equal 50/50 parenting presumption is the one policy change that could dramatically help tens of millions of children, their families, and communities, without any additional funding.”
In this episode, Jen, Janet, & Emma discuss:- Benefits of shared parenting for parents & children
- The role of sexism in parenting – & parenting decisions post-divorce
- Why you need to let go of the idea of being the “better” parent
- Parental gatekeeping
- Sharing caregiving and financial responsibility
- Co-parenting when your separation or divorce was not amicable
- Societal benefits of 50/50 parenting
The 50/50 Solution: The Surprising Simple Choice that Makes Moms, Dads, and Kids Happier & Healthier After a Divorce, by Emma Johnson
Single Parenting w Wealthy Single Mommy Emma Johnson –– ON BOYS episode
Parenting Boys Thru Divorce — ON BOYS episode
Is Shared Parenting Best for Boys After Divorce? — BuildingBoys post
Moms for Shared Parenting –– an activist organization promoting equally shared parenting
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Gifted & Twice-Exceptional (2E) Boys
Gifted & twice-exceptional boys often struggle in school, despite their intelligence & talents.
In fact, boys who are gifted or twice-exceptional (which means they are gifted & have a learning disability) are considered “problem kids.” Teachers (and other adults) may make boredom as lack of focus, or assume that poor grades indicate lack of intelligence. For many 2E boys, their learning disabilities overshadow their giftedness; for others, their giftedness hides their learning disabilities, says Deborah (Deb) Gennarelli, a gifted education specialist who is also the author of Twice-Exceptional Boys: A Roadmap to Getting it Right.
Intensity is part of giftedness — a part that frequently presents challenges for gifted & 2E boys. “Intensity is treated different in boys than in girls in this culture,” Deb says. Teachers & parents may punish or try to “fix” boys’ intensity, which typically only creates more problems.
Gifted & 2E boys need support to thrive. “We can’t ignore the fact that students that have high intelligence look at things in different ways, behave in different ways, learn in different ways,” Deb says. “With the right support, these boys can go from surviving to thriving.”
In this episode, Jen, Janet, & Deb discuss:- Myths & misconceptions about gifted & 2E boys
- Special challenges for gifted & 2E boys
- Why many smart boys struggle in school
- Advocating for gifted & 2E boys
- Parenting gifted & 2E boys
Twice-Exceptional Boys: A Roadmap to Getting it Right, by Deborah Gennarelli, M.Ed.
www.deborahgennarelli.com — Deb’s website
Twice-Exceptional Boys (w Ramsey Hootman) — ON BOYS episode
When Your Kid is the Classroom Problem Child — heartbreaking The Cut article about a 2E boy
Twice Exceptional Students — info from the National Association for Gifted Children
Twice Exceptional — classic Building Boys post
Talk with Boys Like a PRO (about anything & everything!) — Jen & Janet’s upcoming course (starts May 7, 2024)
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