Carnegie Deli Massacre

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06/22/24 • 31 min

In this episode, Elaine, Jeremy, Josh, and Colette discuss the Netflix docu-series 'Homicide New York' and focus on the Carnegie Deli Massacre. They provide details about the crime, including the victims and the events leading up to the murders. The conversation highlights the senselessness of the crime and the impact it had on the survivors. The hosts also discuss the lack of remorse shown by the perpetrators and the lasting trauma experienced by the survivors. They express their disbelief at the extreme violence over a robbery and the tragic loss of innocent lives.

Takeaways

The Carnegie Deli Massacre was a senseless crime that resulted in the deaths of three people and the injury of two others.
The crime was motivated by robbery, but the perpetrators showed no remorse for their actions.
The survivors of the massacre experienced lasting trauma and struggled with survivor's guilt.
The crime highlights the dangers of drug dealing and the potential for violence in criminal activities.
The case was relatively straightforward, with the perpetrators being identified through witness testimony and surveillance footage.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Netflix Docu-series 'Homicide New York'

06:35 Details of the Crime and the Victims

12:17 The Lack of Remorse from the Perpetrators

24:07 The Lasting Trauma and Survivor's Guilt

28:11 Closing Remarks and Preview of the Next Episode

Takeaways

The Carnegie Deli Massacre was a senseless crime that resulted in the deaths of three people and the injury of two others.
The crime was motivated by robbery, but the perpetrators showed no remorse for their actions.
The survivors of the massacre experienced lasting trauma and struggled with survivor's guilt.
The crime highlights the dangers of drug dealing and the potential for violence in criminal activities.
The case was relatively straightforward, with the perpetrators being identified through witness testimony and surveillance footage.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Netflix Docu-series 'Homicide New York'

06:35 Details of the Crime and the Victims

12:17 The Lack of Remorse from the Perpetrators

24:07 The Lasting Trauma and Survivor's Guilt

28:11 Closing Remarks and Preview of the Next Episode

Previous Episode

True Lies: The Happy Face Killer

In this episode, the hosts discuss the Netflix series 'Catching Killers' and focus on the case of the Happy Face Killer. They explore the twists and turns of the investigation, including Laverne's changing stories and her eventual confession. They also discuss the flaws in the justice system, the power dynamics between police and suspects, and the impact of false confessions. The hosts delve into the childhood and early signs of violence in Keith Jesperson, the Happy Face Killer, and discuss his confessions and additional convictions. They also highlight the wrongful conviction of John Sosnowski and Laverne Pavlenac. In this episode, the hosts discuss the show 'Catching Killers' and its focus on killers who confess to their crimes. They highlight the fact that the show's title is somewhat misleading, as the killers in this particular episode were not caught but rather confessed. The hosts also praise the show for its detailed and informative storytelling, providing a comprehensive description of the crimes. They appreciate the real and conversational approach of the interviews with people involved in the cases. The episode concludes with a preview of the next season and a discussion on the link between cases.

Takeaways

False confessions can occur due to coercive tactics and the desire to please authority figures.
The justice system is not infallible, and wrongful convictions can occur due to flawed investigations and biased beliefs.
Early signs of violence and cruelty towards animals can be indicators of future criminal behavior.
The power dynamics between police and suspects can lead to abuses of power and wrongful convictions.
The pursuit of justice requires persistence, open-mindedness, and a commitment to finding the truth.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the episode

00:58 Discussion of the episode and initial twists

01:40 Focus on the case of Tanya Bennett

02:16 The detective's reaction and Laverne's changing stories

03:13 Implication of Laverne and John in the murder

04:37 Laverne's changing stories and implicating herself

05:34 Laverne leading the police to the body

06:00 John's arrest and the plea deal

06:50 John's conflicting statements and the detective's belief in Laverne

07:44 The district attorney's refusal to accept new evidence

08:59 The detective's persistence and Laverne's confession

09:57 The impact of false confessions and coercive tactics

11:22 The flaws in the justice system and the power dynamics between police and suspects

13:31 Introduction of Keith Jesperson and his confessions

14:19 Keith Jesperson's letters and the nickname 'Happy Face Killer'

18:00 Keith Jesperson's childhood and early signs of violence

19:29 Keith Jesperson's victims and his confessions

22:08 Keith Jesperson's suicide attempts and additional convictions

25:35 John Sosnowski and Laverne Pavlenac's wrongful conviction

27:23 Confessing Killers

28:13 Detailed and Informative

30:41 Real and Conversational

31:31 Emotional Impact

32:00 Life Sentence

33:01 Season Two Preview

34:23 Link Between Cases

Next Episode

Central Park Slaying

In this episode of Morbid Instinct, the hosts discuss the brutal murder of Michael McMorrow in Central Park. The victim was stabbed over 40 times, had his throat slashed, and was disemboweled. The shocking part is that the suspects were both 15 years old. The hosts delve into the details of the crime, the suspects' backgrounds, and the disturbing mindset behind the murder. They express their disbelief at the lenient sentences the perpetrators received and question the justice system's handling of such cases. The hosts also share personal stories and draw parallels to other similar crimes. The episode ends with a preview of the next installment, 'Vanished on Wall Street.'

Takeaways

The murder of Michael McMorrow in Central Park was a brutal and shocking crime, with the victim being stabbed over 40 times, having his throat slashed, and being disemboweled.
The fact that the suspects were both 15 years old raises questions about the capacity for such extreme violence at such a young age.
The lenient sentences given to the perpetrators highlight flaws in the justice system and raise concerns about the treatment of juvenile offenders.
The hosts discuss the disturbing mindset of the perpetrators and the lack of remorse shown by one of them.
Personal stories and comparisons to other crimes add depth and context to the discussion.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction

02:59 Disturbingly Young Suspects

11:25 Lenient Sentences and the Justice System

28:45 Personal Stories and Comparisons

34:19 Preview of Next Episode