
#29 - Protests At The Heart Of Our Growth
01/31/25 • 21 min
The heart of the creative process that allows us to grow is: receiving a protest
WE ALLLLLL are ready to
not like something
complain
need something
AND want to say something about it.
So, if we are able to receive a protest, we can build our confidence. And get out of the suffering that is so common in contexts with protests.
Building blocks 8 and 9 will go into how we can organize ourselves as we get ready to receive protests. But first, we must commit to growing oneself, so we have a reason to be doing this work!
One of the goals we can have is simply "not the same old place."
How can we find new ways to experiment with the places we go into suffering? We might not solve it or have no suffering, but when we are able to get out of a stuck place of suffering ("same old place"), then at least it's a little different/better.
Bonnie's book is available in paperback!
"Me And We: Finding Your Voice and Influencing Relational Interactions"
Send us your questions! Email them to [email protected]
Find out more about our work:
Bonnie's Website: bonniemacbride.com
Mallika's Website: rootedrelationships.com
Thank you to Jessica Carson Chen for the music for the show.
Listen On Spotify
Thank you to Positron Productions for producing and editing the show.
The heart of the creative process that allows us to grow is: receiving a protest
WE ALLLLLL are ready to
not like something
complain
need something
AND want to say something about it.
So, if we are able to receive a protest, we can build our confidence. And get out of the suffering that is so common in contexts with protests.
Building blocks 8 and 9 will go into how we can organize ourselves as we get ready to receive protests. But first, we must commit to growing oneself, so we have a reason to be doing this work!
One of the goals we can have is simply "not the same old place."
How can we find new ways to experiment with the places we go into suffering? We might not solve it or have no suffering, but when we are able to get out of a stuck place of suffering ("same old place"), then at least it's a little different/better.
Bonnie's book is available in paperback!
"Me And We: Finding Your Voice and Influencing Relational Interactions"
Send us your questions! Email them to [email protected]
Find out more about our work:
Bonnie's Website: bonniemacbride.com
Mallika's Website: rootedrelationships.com
Thank you to Jessica Carson Chen for the music for the show.
Listen On Spotify
Thank you to Positron Productions for producing and editing the show.
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#28 - It Ends With Us (Skill Application)
Bonnie and Mallika look at how we can apply the "Me & We" frames to the characters, Lily and Ryle, in the movie version of "It Ends With Us."
How might Lily's friend or therapist support Lily with holding both her desire to stay in her relationship with Ryle and our own desire to protect her?
How might we accept perfection in Lily?
How might we accept perfection in Ryle?
Listen in for how we can apply the frames and tools for less suffering for ourselves as well as for others!
Bonnie's book is available in paperback!
"Me And We: Finding Your Voice and Influencing Relational Interactions"
Send us your questions! Email them to [email protected]
Find out more about our work:
Bonnie's Website: bonniemacbride.com
Mallika's Website: rootedrelationships.com
Thank you to Jessica Carson Chen for the music for the show.
Listen On Spotify
Thank you to Positron Productions for producing and editing the show.
Next Episode

#30 - Building Block 8: Organizing Self
This episode, Bonnie and Mallika begin to look at the skills needed for building an Independent Self:
We can use the 3 Cs: Compassion (Empathy), Claiming, Curiosity
Putting on our warrior suit: Relentlessly coming back to things, Righteously fighting for integrity and our values, Ruthlessness as in not shying away because it's not ok for anyone to get hurt.
Mallika brings up the prompt to explore the difference between a pseudo independency (that's more of a guard or defense) and the choice place that is independent, holding onto ourselves.
Giving = Receiving: When we have access to our dependent self, and image the dependent self of the other person, we can listen and receive more effectively.
Holding on to self: A Self that is able to hold our dependent self. Sometimes, to stay self-organizing, we drop the we, we get just in our me and be self-absorbed, self-focused, selfish, etc. Sometimes we drop the me, and then have to find our way back.
Protests really give us an opportunity to develop our independent self.
To come in BB 9 - Trust in self leads to self-authority and claiming truth!
React, Remove, Regroup, Rehearse, Redo = Repair or Redirect
Wake up! to receive and OPEN the gift that is coming our way.
Bonnie's book is available in paperback!
"Me And We: Finding Your Voice and Influencing Relational Interactions"
Send us your questions! Email them to [email protected]
Find out more about our work:
Bonnie's Website: bonniemacbride.com
Mallika's Website: rootedrelationships.com
Thank you to Jessica Carson Chen for the music for the show.
Listen On Spotify
Thank you to Positron Productions for producing and editing the show.
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