
Ambitious Like a Mother with Lara Bazelon
10/17/22 • 41 min
This week on Maximum Mom, your host Elise Buie joined Lara Bazelon.
Lara is a law professor at the University of San Francisco School of Law, where she directs the Criminal & Juvenile Justice and Racial Justice Clinics and holds the Barnett Chair in Trial Advocacy.
Before that, she worked as a deputy federal public defender and the director of a Los Angeles-based innocence project. Along the way, she got married, had two children, divorced, and worked to create a different kind of family. Advocating for criminal defendants and writing about systemic breakdowns in courtrooms and in families have always felt interrelated and important.
So often, people stay within their silos, unaware of the rich possibilities for collaboration, support, and mutual understanding. Her writing seeks to break down those barriers and ask that her readers open their minds to unexpected—even unlikely—ways of thinking about problems that may not be so intractable after all.
To learn more, check out the profiles in MM LaFleur’s Lives with a Purpose and The Sun Magazine.
4:37 they're at great risk
7:24 it sparked a huge reaction
12:01 we’re choosing what to do
16:41 opening your mind
20:28 great lesson
24:21 missing a couple of hours, she was going to learn more
29:25 how do you look at these issues
34:40 turning that mirror on yourself
38:00 is it really anything such as too much information
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This week on Maximum Mom, your host Elise Buie joined Lara Bazelon.
Lara is a law professor at the University of San Francisco School of Law, where she directs the Criminal & Juvenile Justice and Racial Justice Clinics and holds the Barnett Chair in Trial Advocacy.
Before that, she worked as a deputy federal public defender and the director of a Los Angeles-based innocence project. Along the way, she got married, had two children, divorced, and worked to create a different kind of family. Advocating for criminal defendants and writing about systemic breakdowns in courtrooms and in families have always felt interrelated and important.
So often, people stay within their silos, unaware of the rich possibilities for collaboration, support, and mutual understanding. Her writing seeks to break down those barriers and ask that her readers open their minds to unexpected—even unlikely—ways of thinking about problems that may not be so intractable after all.
To learn more, check out the profiles in MM LaFleur’s Lives with a Purpose and The Sun Magazine.
4:37 they're at great risk
7:24 it sparked a huge reaction
12:01 we’re choosing what to do
16:41 opening your mind
20:28 great lesson
24:21 missing a couple of hours, she was going to learn more
29:25 how do you look at these issues
34:40 turning that mirror on yourself
38:00 is it really anything such as too much information
Watch the interview here.
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Doing Your Best Work with Meg Garavaglia
This week on Maximum Mom, your host Elise Buie joined Meg Garavaglia.
Starting and growing Woven Legal has been both rewarding and challenging. Yet, it still pales compared to Meg’s most important work helping her son, Matt, who is now 23, arrive at a life of independence, pride in his accomplishments, and a network of support from his close friends and trusted professionals.
She recognized from Matt's extreme hyperactivity as a toddler that he was different. Still, she wasn’t prepared for the difficulties which lay ahead when in 3rd grade, he was diagnosed with ADHD and a Non-Verbal Learning Disorder. Additionally, Meg was told that he was "on the Asperger's side of the spectrum." These differences would profoundly affect his academic and social success over the next nine years, not to mention his self-esteem.
It, of course, also took a toll on her family, particularly her marriage - but she had amazing mentors who told her, "Don't quit before the miracle..." and she persevered. Looking back, Meg can clearly see the gifts she received from being Matt's mom. She is more patient (most moms are!), more FUN (not taking herself so seriously), and more accepting of others. And, perhaps most importantly, through serving as Matt's advocate, she was led to become absolutely unwilling to accept a FINAL answer as the FINAL answer when there's clearly a better way.
Meg believes Woven Legal may be the byproduct of that lesson. The legal industry has been a pressure cooker for years. The broken families and mental health issues that lay in its wake are no secret. There is a better, more balanced way for attorneys to work with top talent, and that's what Woven Legal does. They place high-caliber virtual legal professionals to support busy attorneys so they can focus on growing and leading their firms.
3:25 the science of making paper
7:27 no jerk policy
12:29 practice area alignment
16:52 such rockstars
20:50 learning lunchbox
24:38 all bets were off
29:07 personality plus
34:16 and everything in between
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Being Authentic with Pamela Grady
This week on Maximum Mom, your host Elise Buie joined Pamela Grady.
Grateful for the opportunity to serve the people and businesses of Madison Parish, Louisiana, and Warren County, Mississippi, Pamela co-founded Crews Grady PLLC in 2013 with the desire to empower her clients and her community. She utilizes her love of communication, technology, research, and planning to create successful outcomes for her clients and economic prosperity for her community.
She has a heart for public service and economic development and uses her relationships with her colleagues on the Bench and in the Bar in service of those causes. Committed to access to justice and to educating her clients, she is constantly searching for ways to utilize technology to reach those in need.
Pamela brings her background in agriculture and experience as an environmental and floodplain manager for the Department of Homeland Security to her real estate practice and is a licensed title insurance agent in the states of Louisiana and Mississippi. With offices ideally located in Madison Parish, Louisiana, and Warren County, Mississippi, her real estate practice often involves the purchase and sale of large agricultural and recreational tracts situated in both the states of Mississippi and Louisiana on the Mississippi River.
In addition to maintaining a real estate practice, Pamela has prosecuted and defended civil and criminal cases in Louisiana, Mississippi, and Georgia in State Courts, Federal Courts, and before the American Arbitration Association.
Pamela and her husband, James "Bud" Grady, live in Madison Parish, Louisiana, where they are raising their two children, Wyatt and Genevieve.
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20:40 she’s a great partner
24:30 who is this person
29:05 you can take another step
34:17 yes ma’am
38:00 that was a fun game
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