
064: What's in a name? Diversity and inclusion to avoid workplace bias
01/06/22 • 34 min
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"If you are making a judgment just based on my name, then that's a problem more about you than me. That's not my issue or my burden to carry. ...."
Sope Agbelusi, Making Conversations Count (January 2022)
We're Making Conversations about inclusion Count!
"If you are making a judgment just based on my name, then that's a problem more about you than me. That's not my issue or my burden to carry."
Sope Agbelusi tells us the story of his name, and the challenges he's endured just for using it, from a young age.
And he's still hugely aware of bias that's happening all around him, all the time.
He's learned to embrace his name and appreciate its uniqueness, as well as the identity of those that share it.
In this, the latest of our most powerful conversations, he's appealing to all of us to do our own bit to recognise our own bias.
Have a listen to learn:
- How Sope handled his name as a young boy
- What his name means in his Nigerian origins
- How all of us have a bias and what we can do to correct that
- Bias isn't just about names or colour - it can impact in many other ways including gender
- How Tchaikovsky managed something many don't!
- The importance of intention
- The strategies for inclusion
- The conversation that counted
Want to carry on the conversation with Sope? Sope's website - https://mindsetshift.co.uk
Email Sope: [email protected]
"Making Conversations Count" is a podcast from WAG Associates founder and telemarketing trainer Wendy Harris.
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"If you are making a judgment just based on my name, then that's a problem more about you than me. That's not my issue or my burden to carry. ...."
Sope Agbelusi, Making Conversations Count (January 2022)
We're Making Conversations about inclusion Count!
"If you are making a judgment just based on my name, then that's a problem more about you than me. That's not my issue or my burden to carry."
Sope Agbelusi tells us the story of his name, and the challenges he's endured just for using it, from a young age.
And he's still hugely aware of bias that's happening all around him, all the time.
He's learned to embrace his name and appreciate its uniqueness, as well as the identity of those that share it.
In this, the latest of our most powerful conversations, he's appealing to all of us to do our own bit to recognise our own bias.
Have a listen to learn:
- How Sope handled his name as a young boy
- What his name means in his Nigerian origins
- How all of us have a bias and what we can do to correct that
- Bias isn't just about names or colour - it can impact in many other ways including gender
- How Tchaikovsky managed something many don't!
- The importance of intention
- The strategies for inclusion
- The conversation that counted
Want to carry on the conversation with Sope? Sope's website - https://mindsetshift.co.uk
Email Sope: [email protected]
"Making Conversations Count" is a podcast from WAG Associates founder and telemarketing trainer Wendy Harris.
Missed our previous episodes?
You can catch up with any of the other guests we've been making conversations count with, here.
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"Making Conversations Count" is a podcast from WAG Associates founder and telemarketing trainer Wendy Harris.
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"Making Conversations Count" is a podcast from WAG Associates founder and telemarketing trainer Wendy Harris.
Missed our previous episodes?
You can catch up with any of the other guests we've been making conversations count with, here.
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Once you've listened, remember to leave us a review!
NEVER MISS AN EPISODE AGAIN!!
Follow the show on Apple Podcasts here!
Follow the show on Spotify, here!
You are following the show on socials, right?
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