
Behind the scenes: Kai’s trip to China with Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen
07/10/23 • 18 min
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Kai Ryssdal breaks the fourth wall and shares highlights from his trip to China with Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen (it was “amazeballs”). Plus, U.S. pandemic relief packages helped millions of businesses stay afloat in 2020. But cybersecurity holes paved the way for fraudulent claims. Can the federal government hold these scammers accountable? And how Morocco’s national women’s soccer team is making history.
Here’s everything we talked about today:
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- “The Trillion-Dollar Grift: Inside the Greatest Scam of All Time” from Rolling Stone
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- “Earth is at its hottest in thousands of years. Here’s how we know.” From The Washington Post
Got a question about the economy, business or technology for the hosts? Leave us a voicemail at 508-U-B-SMART or email us at [email protected].
Kai Ryssdal breaks the fourth wall and shares highlights from his trip to China with Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen (it was “amazeballs”). Plus, U.S. pandemic relief packages helped millions of businesses stay afloat in 2020. But cybersecurity holes paved the way for fraudulent claims. Can the federal government hold these scammers accountable? And how Morocco’s national women’s soccer team is making history.
Here’s everything we talked about today:
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- “The Trillion-Dollar Grift: Inside the Greatest Scam of All Time” from Rolling Stone
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- “Earth is at its hottest in thousands of years. Here’s how we know.” From The Washington Post
Got a question about the economy, business or technology for the hosts? Leave us a voicemail at 508-U-B-SMART or email us at [email protected].
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- “Twitter is threatening to sue Meta over Threads” from Semafor
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- “Meta’s Threads Proves That Social Media Cannot Die” from The Atlantic
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The dirty side of the fast-fashion business
It’s time to air out some of fast fashion’s dirty laundry. Recently, fast-fashion retailer Shein was in the headlines over a paid influencer trip to one of its factories in China. It’s also facing allegations that range from labor rights abuses to high levels of carbon emissions.
Sustainable-fashion writer Alden Wicker’s new book, “To Dye For: How Toxic Fashion Is Making Us Sick,” documents another gritty side of the industry: the toxic chemicals used to make the clothing many companies sell.
As it turns out, there aren’t many laws in the U.S. to prevent those chemicals from ending up in our clothes.
On the show today, Wicker explains why harmful chemicals are in our clothing, how flight attendants became a breakthrough case for toxic clothing and how more regulation could help ensure safer practices in the fashion industry. Plus, what consumers can do to reduce their exposure.
Then, more on harmful chemicals: A recent study found that a type of “forever chemical” is uncomfortably common in the U.S. water supply. And, the pending merger between Microsoft and Activision Blizzard got a big push forward from a federal judge this week. We’ll get into why the decision is a major blow to the Federal Trade Commission.
Later, a listener shares an adorable cartoon that has Kimberly Adams written all over it. Plus, this week’s answer to the Make Me Smart question comes from Major Jackson, host of “The Slowdown” poetry podcast.
Here’s everything we talked about today:
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- “Shein, the fast-fashion giant, hits roadblocks” from The Washington Post
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- “The incredible story of how hatmakers really did ‘go mad’ 300 years ago” from Business Insider
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- “What Is Prop 65? And Why Is There a Warning Label on This Thing I Bought?” from The New York Times
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- “Tap water study detects PFAS ‘forever chemicals’ across the US” from U.S. Geological Survey
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- “Microsoft Can Close Its $75 Billion Buy of Activision Blizzard, Judge Rules” from The Wall Street Journal
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- ‘“USA Geography” Features Humorous Illustrations Of Each State” from Bored Panda
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- “The Slowdown” podcast from APM
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