
Is Your Hybrid Work Strategy a Mule or a Platypus?
09/23/24 • 19 min
Wayne Turmel and Marisa Eikenberry dive into the hybrid work debate, comparing two very unlikely animals: mules and platypuses. Wayne introduces his humorous yet insightful analogy, explaining how a “mule” model of hybrid work is intentional and strategic, while a “platypus” model is a chaotic, unplanned combination of different parts.
They discuss the challenges many organizations face when trying to make hybrid work “work” and provide practical advice on moving from a disjointed model to one that serves both teams and the business. With the rapid evolution of remote and hybrid environments, the question becomes: is your team a well-planned mule or a hodgepodge platypus?
Key Takeaways- What hybrid work really means and why most companies are just coping rather than strategizing.
- The difference between a mule and platypus approach in hybrid work.
- How strategic hybrid teams balance not only where but also when work happens.
- Practical steps to move from a platypus hybrid model to a mule-like, intentional approach.
- The importance of understanding both asynchronous and synchronous work in a hybrid setting.
00:00 Introduction 01:05 Hybrid Work Explained 02:30 Mules vs. Platypuses 04:20 The Platypus Problem 06:10 What Makes a Good “Mule” Hybrid Model? 08:45 Hybrid Work Strategies 10:30 Asynchronous Work and Its Benefits 12:00 Building Intentional Hybrid Teams 14:00 Steps to Transition from Platypus to Mule 16:40 Closing
Related Episodes- Navigating Hybrid Havoc with John Forsythe
- Deciphering the Dynamics of Hybrid Work with Henry O'Loughlin
- Solving the Challenges of Hybrid Teams with AI Technology with Projjal (PJ) Ghatak
- Learn more about Wayne Turmel
- Email Wayne Turmel
- Connect with Wayne Turmel on LinkedIn
- Learn more about Marisa Eikenberry
- Email Marisa Eikenberry
- Connect with Marisa Eikenberry on LinkedIn
- Purchase a copy of The Long-Distance Leader
- Purchase a copy of The Long-Distance Teammate
- Purchase a copy of The Long-Distance Team
- The Kevin Eikenberry Group
Perfect your remote leadership skills with the updated edition of "The Long-Distance Leader" by Kevin Eikenberry and Wayne Turmel, featuring new principles and proven strategies for today's hybrid work environments. https://longdistanceworklife.com/LDL
Your HostsWayne Turmel: Master Trainer and Coach for The Kevin Eikenberry Group, co-author of The Long-Distance Leader: Rules for Remarkable Remote Leadership and The Long-Distance Teammate: Stay Engaged and Connected While Working Anywhere, and trainer of remote teams for over twenty years. Read More...
Marisa Eikenberry: Web developer, podcast editor, and technology support specialist for The Kevin Eikenberry Group. Has worked on a hybrid team for over 9 years. Read more...
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Wayne Turmel and Marisa Eikenberry dive into the hybrid work debate, comparing two very unlikely animals: mules and platypuses. Wayne introduces his humorous yet insightful analogy, explaining how a “mule” model of hybrid work is intentional and strategic, while a “platypus” model is a chaotic, unplanned combination of different parts.
They discuss the challenges many organizations face when trying to make hybrid work “work” and provide practical advice on moving from a disjointed model to one that serves both teams and the business. With the rapid evolution of remote and hybrid environments, the question becomes: is your team a well-planned mule or a hodgepodge platypus?
Key Takeaways- What hybrid work really means and why most companies are just coping rather than strategizing.
- The difference between a mule and platypus approach in hybrid work.
- How strategic hybrid teams balance not only where but also when work happens.
- Practical steps to move from a platypus hybrid model to a mule-like, intentional approach.
- The importance of understanding both asynchronous and synchronous work in a hybrid setting.
00:00 Introduction 01:05 Hybrid Work Explained 02:30 Mules vs. Platypuses 04:20 The Platypus Problem 06:10 What Makes a Good “Mule” Hybrid Model? 08:45 Hybrid Work Strategies 10:30 Asynchronous Work and Its Benefits 12:00 Building Intentional Hybrid Teams 14:00 Steps to Transition from Platypus to Mule 16:40 Closing
Related Episodes- Navigating Hybrid Havoc with John Forsythe
- Deciphering the Dynamics of Hybrid Work with Henry O'Loughlin
- Solving the Challenges of Hybrid Teams with AI Technology with Projjal (PJ) Ghatak
- Learn more about Wayne Turmel
- Email Wayne Turmel
- Connect with Wayne Turmel on LinkedIn
- Learn more about Marisa Eikenberry
- Email Marisa Eikenberry
- Connect with Marisa Eikenberry on LinkedIn
- Purchase a copy of The Long-Distance Leader
- Purchase a copy of The Long-Distance Teammate
- Purchase a copy of The Long-Distance Team
- The Kevin Eikenberry Group
Perfect your remote leadership skills with the updated edition of "The Long-Distance Leader" by Kevin Eikenberry and Wayne Turmel, featuring new principles and proven strategies for today's hybrid work environments. https://longdistanceworklife.com/LDL
Your HostsWayne Turmel: Master Trainer and Coach for The Kevin Eikenberry Group, co-author of The Long-Distance Leader: Rules for Remarkable Remote Leadership and The Long-Distance Teammate: Stay Engaged and Connected While Working Anywhere, and trainer of remote teams for over twenty years. Read More...
Marisa Eikenberry: Web developer, podcast editor, and technology support specialist for The Kevin Eikenberry Group. Has worked on a hybrid team for over 9 years. Read more...
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Using DISC Assessments for Better Remote Teamwork with Guy Harris
Wayne Turmel welcomes Guy Harris, co-author of From Bud to Boss with Kevin Eikenberry and the expert behind DISC assessments at DISCpersonalitytesting.com. Guy shares insights into how DISC assessments can help remote teams communicate better, understand different behavior styles, and improve collaboration. Wayne and Guy explore common misuses of these assessments, how they can be effectively applied in leadership, and the unique challenges remote leaders face when interpreting team dynamics. Tune in for actionable tips on using DISC in a remote or hybrid work environment.
Key Takeaways- Introduction to DISC assessments and their relevance to remote work
- The value of behavior-based assessments in team dynamics
- Misconceptions and misuse of DISC assessments
- How DISC can help prevent misunderstandings in remote teams
- Why understanding different communication styles is critical for remote leadership
- Using DISC to guide, not judge, remote team members
- The importance of avoiding exclusion in remote teams
- Practical tips for applying DISC to remote leadership
Timestamps 0:00 Intro: Guy Harris & DISC Assessments 1:35 What is the DISC assessment? 2:50 Why DISC matters in leadership and remote teams 4:10 Preventing misunderstandings with DISC 5:45 Common mistakes when using DISC 7:00 Applying DISC to remote team leadership 8:35 Avoiding exclusion in remote teams 10:05 How to use DISC reports for team building 11:45 New Book: The Long-Distance Leader 12:50 Final thoughts and links
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- Learn more about Wayne Turmel
- Email Wayne Turmel
- Connect with Wayne Turmel on LinkedIn
- Learn more about Marisa Eikenberry
- Email Marisa Eikenberry
- Connect with Marisa Eikenberry on LinkedIn
- Purchase a copy of The Long-Distance Leader
- Purchase a copy of The Long-Distance Teammate
- Purchase a copy of The Long-Distance Team
- The Kevin Eikenberry Group
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Why Virtual Reality Could Be the Key to Remote Team Engagement with Dan O’Connell
Wayne Turmel sits down with Dan O'Connell, co-founder of BrandLab360, to explore the innovative world of virtual workplaces and how they are reshaping remote work. Dan shares insights into their platform, Virtual HQ, and how it allows teams to collaborate in immersive, 3D environments without the need for VR headsets. They discuss the evolution of remote work tools, the advantages of avatar-based interactions, and the gamification of work to keep employees engaged. Wayne and Dan also dive into the psychological benefits of these virtual spaces and how they compare to traditional video calls like Zoom and Teams.
Key Takeaways- How BrandLab360 evolved from fashion showrooms to virtual workspaces.
- The unique features of Virtual HQ and why it stands out from other remote tools.
- The psychological and social advantages of using avatars in remote meetings.
- Why companies should consider gamification in remote work environments.
- The potential future of hybrid work in the metaverse.
0:00 Introduction to Dan O'Connell and Virtual HQ 2:00 How Virtual HQ is Different from Zoom and Teams 4:45 The Importance of Human Relationships in Virtual Spaces 7:30 Gamification and Fun in Remote Work 10:30 Why Avatar-Based Meetings are More Engaging 14:00 Overcoming Tech Barriers for Virtual Workspaces 17:00 Features to Look for in a Virtual Office Platform 20:00 Closing Thoughts and Where to Learn More
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- Learn more about Wayne Turmel
- Email Wayne Turmel
- Connect with Wayne Turmel on LinkedIn
- Learn more about Marisa Eikenberry
- Email Marisa Eikenberry
- Connect with Marisa Eikenberry on LinkedIn
- Purchase a copy of The Long-Distance Leader
- Purchase a copy of The Long-Distance Teammate
- Purchase a copy of The Long-Distance Team
- The Kevin Eikenberry Group
Long-Distance Worklife - A Hybrid & Remote Work Podcast - Is Your Hybrid Work Strategy a Mule or a Platypus?
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Welcome back to the. Long distance work life. We help you live, work and thrive in remote and hybrid teams. I'm Marissa Eikenberry, a fellow remote worker, and joining me is my co-host and remote work expert, Winter Bell. Hi, Lynn. Hello, Marissa. How are you? I'm great. How are you? I am fine. For the uninitiated, we are recording this on the Friday before a long weekend and things may get silly. Is. We're ready to go. But anyway, we're also talking about something s
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