Linux User Space

Coming up in this episode

• Telemetry helps us all
• Immutability blues
• A correction or two
• And more feedback

📽️The video version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y04YTkEC5Y

0:00 Cold Open
1:34 The GOOD Telemetry
23:33 Gnome Classic & Friends
31:16 The Incredible Immutables
44:00 A Slight Correction
50:25 A Little Backstory
59:24 mintCast, CKP, FCWN & DHD
1:02:31 So Lightweight!
1:10:23 Another Dive into Notes
1:21:48 Fix GRUB, Add Color
1:29:49 Next Time
1:31:58 Stinger

🔥Warm up🔥

Dan Johansen in Matrix

• pkgstats
• Fun Stats

📣Announcements📣

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• 📺️Youtube
• 📽️TILvids
• And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons like you 😍

Fragmentation? Not on My Watch!

Muesli from Matrix

• Gnome Classic
• Is it healthy co-opetition or fragmentation? Let us know.
• Secureblue
• beginning of the year
• BlueBuild

📣More Announcements📣

• Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, [email protected] OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy

A quick correction

jensmander1223 on Youtube

• OpenIndiana is Unix-Like but it's own thing

The history of Dan and Leo

visamp from Matrix

• Leo and Dan both did Linux Spotlight Episodes with our former co-host Rocco. Dan's episode and Leo's
• We plan to drop some more tidbits in the not too distant future.

Peter Jones

• Thanks for the support and for listening.
• Mintcast
• Crowbar Kernel Panic
• Full Circle Weekly

Emiliano from Argentina

• Thanks for the message, the Spanish test and the support.

QOwnNotes & Joplin

Scott

• Scott recommends QOwnNotes and not Joplin.

Another Vote for Obsidian. Then Anki, RemNote and LogSeq

DesertDoug

• Doug searched long and hard recently for a note taking app too. Doug bumped into Obsidian, Anki, RemNote and Logseq.

🧹Housekeeping🧹

Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.

• 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy
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• ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server
• 📲 Linux User Space Telegram
• ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix
• 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch
• 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon
• 📜 Linux User Space Twitter
• 📺️ Linux User Space...

Coming up in this episode

1. We get federated
2. Mozilla watch
3. We've been working 9 to 5
4. We toot on the go with our app.

Preshow

• Gitea
• Yet Another Dotfiles Manager

Mastodon

• Mastodon
• What is Mastodon?
• Mastodon roots
• Eugen Rochko
• ActivityPub
  • Pleroma
  • Pixelfed
  • Misskey
  • PeerTube
  • Plume
• Mastodon Apps

Mozilla Watch

• Push for Net Neutrality
• Trim http Referrers

Gnome 40

• Beta Announcement
• And now (after we record) Gnome 40 Release Announcement
• Gnome Extensions Rebooted

Follow-ups

• Eric Adams' Appimage Launcher video
• Manjaro Arm

Housekeeping

• Email us
• 9to5 Linux
• Discord Server
• Matrix Room
• Support us at Patreon
• Join us on Telegram
• Follow us on Twitter
• Check out Linux User Space on the web

App Focus

Tootle and Fedilab
This episode's app(s):

• Tootle
• Fedilab
  • note from Dan: I didn't realize the Google Play Store version is now a pay app. It is still opensource and available on Fdroid.

Next Time

Stay tuned on Twitter, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us ideas for what’ll go in Season 2.

Join us this summer when we return to the Linux User Space

Support Linux User Space

Coming up in this episode

1. Network failures
2. Gaming wins
3. We get Emacs Pinky
4. A little browser watch
5. And we get a little manipulative

0:00 Cold Open
1:40 The Little Outage
7:45 Splitgate
10:25 The History of Emacs
23:51 Emacs, Emacs, Emacs
38:39 Browser Watch!
45:32 Kdenlive Fundraiser
47:58 Feedback
56:30 Community Focus: System Crafters
59:40 App Focus: GIMP
1:05:29 Next Time: Alpine Linux
1:09:17 Stinger

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Banter

• Dan re-installs his pfSense
• Splitgate on Steam

Announcements

• Give us a sub on YouTube
• You can watch us live on Twitch the day after an episode drops.

History Series on Text Editors - Emacs

• GNU Emacs
• TECO editor
• TECO-6, compatible with the PDP-6
• Gosling Emacs
• Initially Gosling permitted unrestricted redistribution
• Free software movement
• UniPress began to redistribute and sell Gosling's Emacs on UNIX and VMS
• Interview in 2013 via Slashdot, Richard Stallman said:
• The Free Software Foundation is born
• Richard Gabriel's Lucid Inc needed version 19 to support their IDE, Energize C++.
• Emacs 21.1 brought
• Emacs 22.1 brought
• The last official release of XEmacs
• Emacs 23.1 brought
• Emacs 24.1 brought
• Emacs 25.1 brought
• Emacs 26.1 brought
• Emacs 27.1 brought
• Emacs 28.1 brought
• September 12, 2022 Emacs 28.2, the latest maintenance release is out

Further Reading
The Beginnings of TECO
Real Programmers Don't Use PASCAL
https://www.jwz.org/doc/emacs-timeline.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20000819071104/http%3A//www.multicians.org/mepap.html
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/history.html
https:/...

Coming up in this episode

• HD scores a Homerun
• Mozilla Launches Into Orbit
• Stand by while Lemmy Stands by

0:00 Cold Open
3:00 HD Homerun out of the park
21:56 Mozilla Launches Into Orbit
50:10 Stuck on Lemmy
1:04:15 Next Time
1:08:13 Stinger

The Video Version
https://youtu.be/PewzDsCkxk4

HD Homerun out of the park

• Silicondust's HDHomerun
• Jellyfin
• Plex
• Tailscale

📣Announcements📣

This program was made possible by:

• 📺️Youtube
• 📽️TILvids
• And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons like you 😍

Mozilla Orbit

• Orbit by Mozilla
• OMG Ubuntu

📣More Announcements📣

• Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, [email protected] OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy

Stuck on Lemmy and Lemmy is stuck on us

• Dan broke it on upgrade, then restored it a few times and we are back on the old version. It is working though.
• Head over to the forum or User Space section. We hope to post more things that are opinion rather than news. Give us some feedback on those so we can incorporate them into the show.

🧹Housekeeping🧹

Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.

• 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy
• 📰 Linux User Space subreddit
• ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server
• 📲 Linux User Space Telegram
• ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix
• 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch
• 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon
• 📜 Linux User Space Twitter
• 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids
• 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky

🔭Next Time🔭

We plan to cover more topics and feedback.

Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.

Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.

We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!

Producer

• Bruno
• Dave
• John
• Johnny
• Visaggio & Co

Co-Producer

• --verbose
• MarshMan
• GrouchyM
• Pjol
• Tim

• A.J.
• Advait
• Backshift6090
• CubicleNate
• Eduardo S.
• FrozenGorilla
• Hausken
• Jeff3ix
• Jefferson
• Jill and Steve
• Larry
• LiNuXsys666
• Livet
• Musical Coder
• Mick
• Nicholas
• Rotted Mood
• sleepyeyesvince
• The Saigoneer

Support Linux User Space

Coming up in this episode

• We do a little upgrade
• Firefox fixes a tooltip
• The History of W, V, X and CDE
• How it went
• And a new old desktop to explore

0:00 Cold Open
1:42 Lemmy's Upgraded!
10:56 A 22 Year Old Bug
15:50 Install Firefox Correctly
22:22 CDE History: Intro
24:04 CDE History: X
27:33 CDE History: OPEN LOOK
29:25 CDE History: COSE
31:28 CDE History: CDE & Others
34:24 CDE History: The Opening
36:14 CDE History: The Releases
43:02 How'd CDE Go?
1:16:00 Next Time
1:21:29 Stinger

Watch the video!
https://youtu.be/-tycNQ-Ey9Q

Banter

• The LUS Lemmy instance got an update.
  • The ansible repo switched to tagged releases. There were ⚠️breaking changes⚠️ that needed to be prepared for.
  • One of the issues Dan had is likely fixed now.
• The Bug that's old enough to drink and drive, but hopefully not at the same time!
• Dan installed Firefox from the .tar.gz download.
  • Spoiler - it updates just fine because my user is the owner in the /opt directory.

Announcements

This program was made possible by:

• The letters W, V, X, C, D and E
• 📺️Youtube
• 📽️TILvids
• And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons like you 😍

The History of The Common Desktop Environment (CDE)

• The Andrew Project
• W was a windowing system that was originally written for the V operating system.
• In 1984, Robert Scheifler wrote.
• X is our “reaction” to W
• Ultrix Window Manager, or uwm
• Tom's Window Manager, which eventually became Tab Window Manager, or twm
• Open Look Specification
• The OSF narrows the search for a User Interface.
• HP and Microsoft's CXI and DEC's XUI to create the HP OSF/Motif Window Manager.
• Sun went on to build OpenWindows, which was X with OPEN LOOK on top to replace SunView.
• COSE
• In 1994, The OSF and Unix International, a body meant to standardize UNIX, merged, and in 96, merged again with X/Open into The Open Group.
• Motif and CDE became one
• KDE enters the scene.
• May of 2000 when Motif