
307: Episode 3:07: Emacs Pinky
09/26/22 • 70 min
Coming up in this episode
- Network failures
- Gaming wins
- We get Emacs Pinky
- A little browser watch
- And we get a little manipulative
0:00 Cold Open
1:40 The Little Outage
7:45 Splitgate
10:25 The History of Emacs
23:51 Emacs, Emacs, Emacs
38:39 Browser Watch!
45:32 Kdenlive Fundraiser
47:58 Feedback
56:30 Community Focus: System Crafters
59:40 App Focus: GIMP
1:05:29 Next Time: Alpine Linux
1:09:17 Stinger
Support us on Patreon!
Banter
- Dan re-installs his pfSense
- Splitgate on Steam
Announcements
History Series on Text Editors - Emacs
- GNU Emacs
- TECO editor
- TECO-6, compatible with the PDP-6
- Gosling Emacs
- Initially Gosling permitted unrestricted redistribution
- Free software movement
- UniPress began to redistribute and sell Gosling's Emacs on UNIX and VMS
- Interview in 2013 via Slashdot, Richard Stallman said:
- The Free Software Foundation is born
- Richard Gabriel's Lucid Inc needed version 19 to support their IDE, Energize C++.
- Emacs 21.1 brought
- Emacs 22.1 brought
- The last official release of XEmacs
- Emacs 23.1 brought
- Emacs 24.1 brought
- Emacs 25.1 brought
- Emacs 26.1 brought
- Emacs 27.1 brought
- Emacs 28.1 brought
- September 12, 2022 Emacs 28.2, the latest maintenance release is out
Further Reading
The Beginnings of TECO
Real Programmers Don't Use PASCAL
https://www.jwz.org/doc/emacs-timeline.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20000819071104/http%3A//www.multicians.org/mepap.html
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/history.html
https:/...
Coming up in this episode
- Network failures
- Gaming wins
- We get Emacs Pinky
- A little browser watch
- And we get a little manipulative
0:00 Cold Open
1:40 The Little Outage
7:45 Splitgate
10:25 The History of Emacs
23:51 Emacs, Emacs, Emacs
38:39 Browser Watch!
45:32 Kdenlive Fundraiser
47:58 Feedback
56:30 Community Focus: System Crafters
59:40 App Focus: GIMP
1:05:29 Next Time: Alpine Linux
1:09:17 Stinger
Support us on Patreon!
Banter
- Dan re-installs his pfSense
- Splitgate on Steam
Announcements
History Series on Text Editors - Emacs
- GNU Emacs
- TECO editor
- TECO-6, compatible with the PDP-6
- Gosling Emacs
- Initially Gosling permitted unrestricted redistribution
- Free software movement
- UniPress began to redistribute and sell Gosling's Emacs on UNIX and VMS
- Interview in 2013 via Slashdot, Richard Stallman said:
- The Free Software Foundation is born
- Richard Gabriel's Lucid Inc needed version 19 to support their IDE, Energize C++.
- Emacs 21.1 brought
- Emacs 22.1 brought
- The last official release of XEmacs
- Emacs 23.1 brought
- Emacs 24.1 brought
- Emacs 25.1 brought
- Emacs 26.1 brought
- Emacs 27.1 brought
- Emacs 28.1 brought
- September 12, 2022 Emacs 28.2, the latest maintenance release is out
Further Reading
The Beginnings of TECO
Real Programmers Don't Use PASCAL
https://www.jwz.org/doc/emacs-timeline.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20000819071104/http%3A//www.multicians.org/mepap.html
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/history.html
https:/...
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Episode 3:06: How to Clear
Coming up in this episode
- We try to contain ourselves.
- Clearly, all the history you need
- Our clear hindsight
- We plan to install the most popular distro of all time
0:00 Cold Open
1:19 VM's, Containers and Bundles, oh my!
16:09 The Origin Story
18:21 The History: 2015
20:00 2016
22:08 2017
22:59 2018
24:09 2019
25:34 2020
27:05 2021
27:41 2022
29:00 Thoughts on Clear Linux
1:09:26 Next Time: Emacs, Topics (and Alpine)
1:15:45 Stinger
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Banter
- What's a container?
- What's a virtual machine?
- What's a Clear Container?
- What are Bundles?
Announcements
Clear Linux the History
- 2015 - February 6th Clear Linux was officially released. The only reference we found
- 2015 - February 9 - The first downloadable images, marked 300, 310, 320, 330 and 340, show up at clearlinux.org .
- Arjan van de Ven penned an article
- 2016 - April 22 - Announcement that the Container-only OS will now start shipping a desktop for developers.
- In parallel, Robert Nesius announces
- Enter, Flatpak.
- The auto-updater is here
- XFCE, while still available, is no longer the default desktop. It's Gnome 3.24.
- The first Issue in Github about ffmpeg not being included shows up.
- "How to Clear"
- Wireguard is added
- Snap was and will remain unavailable and unsupported.
- A new installer beta is floating around
- The public forum is live!
- Cups enabled by default.
- version 2.0 of the new installer is released with a full graphical interface!
- An appeal to Linux developers.
- Offline installations are now available
- exFAT is available
- The distro will focus less on Desktop
- Clear Linux pulls out a win over EndeavourOS on the Ryzen 9 5900x.
- Ubuntu 21.04 enjoys plenty of kernel performance improvements, but Clear wins in all but a handful of benchmarks.
- Against Windows 11, Windows 10, Ubuntu 21.10, 21.04, and Arch Linux, Clear Linux wins in 68 out of 102 benchmarks. Windows 11 won 1.
- The first third-party swupd repo (that we could find)!
- Clear switches from the -O2 compiler flag for the kernel to -O3 for more SPEE...
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Episode 3:08: Scaling the Alpine
Coming up in this episode
- We're diskless
- We take a LEAF out of the history book
- We climb the Alpine mountain
- Pick a very small editor
- And we don our hoodies
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0:00 Cold Open
1:30 No Disks for You!
10:35 1997, LRP
11:43 2000, No More Money
13:09 2001, LRP Struggles
13:59 2003, LRP Put to Rest + LEAF and GNAP
14:58 2004, GNAP v0.5
15:04 2005, A Linux Powered Integrated Network Engine
16:18 2006, Alpine 1.4 | 2007, Alpine 1.5 and 1.6
16:37 2008, Alpine 2.0 Added Busybox
16:54 2009, Alpine 1.8 and 1.9
17:13 2010, Alpine 1.10 and 2.0
18:05 2011, Alpine 2.2 and 2.3
18:28 2012, Alpine 2.4 and 2.5
18:51 2013, Alpine and the Container Renaissance
20:11 2014, Alpine 3.0 and musl libc
20:43 2015, Alpine 3.2, 3.3 and Some Restructuring
21:19 2016, Alpine 3.4, 3.5 and OpenSSL
21:55 2017, Alpine 3.6, 3.7 and PostmarketOS
22:39 2018, Alpine 3.8 and Raspberry Pi 3 Support
23:01 2019, Alpine 3.9, 3.10 and 3.11
24:08 2020, Alpine 3.12 and the Last LEAF
24:28 2021, Alpine 3.13, 3.14 and 3.15
25:10 2022, Alpine 3.16 and the End of the History
26:45 What is Alpine, Really?
41:34 Our Thoughts on Alpine
1:04:07 Next Time! More Text Ed and a New Distro
1:13:58 Stinger
Banter
Disks! They're dead, Jim.
- Dan's 3TB Seagate - not noted for reliability but was reliable.
- Leo's 240GB Adata SU630
Announcements
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Alpine Linux the History
- Back in 1997, Dave Cineage created the Linux Router Project, or LRP.
- The Linux Embedded Appliance Framework, or LEAF project was started
- Oxygen
- EigerStein
- The Linux Router Project was done
- The LEAF project was still there
- August of 2005, Natanael Copa, while working for a non-profit company on VPNs and firewalls, announced a new distribution on the linux.leaf.devel mailing list.
- Alpine originally stood for A Linux Powered Integrated Network Engine.
- The earlier versions are a little cloudy, but we see Alpine 1.4 being developed in 2006, 1.5 in 2007, Alpine 1.6 released on April 30th of 2007 and the switch to development of 1.7 in the days after.
- Alpine 2.0, the then development branch, first commit "added busybox"
- Alpine 1.9 - OpenRC shipped and able to install on hard disks.
- A new website is launched
- Alpine Linux 2.0 is released
- The team announced the Alpine Linux Forum.
- Alpine 3.0 is released, an...
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