
#419 – Sam Altman: OpenAI, GPT-5, Sora, Board Saga, Elon Musk, Ilya, Power & AGI
03/18/24 • 122 min
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Sam Altman is the CEO of OpenAI, the company behind GPT-4, ChatGPT, Sora, and many other state-of-the-art AI technologies. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/sam-altman-2-transcript
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ChatGPT Website: https://chat.openai.com/
Sora Website: https://openai.com/sora
GPT-4 Website: https://openai.com/research/gpt-4
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OUTLINE:
Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.
(00:00) – Introduction
(07:51) – OpenAI board saga
(25:17) – Ilya Sutskever
(31:26) – Elon Musk lawsuit
(41:18) – Sora
(51:09) – GPT-4
(1:02:18) – Memory & privacy
(1:09:22) – Q*
(1:12:58) – GPT-5
(1:16:13) – $7 trillion of compute
(1:24:22) – Google and Gemini
(1:35:26) – Leap to GPT-5
(1:39:10) – AGI
(1:57:44) – Aliens
Sam Altman is the CEO of OpenAI, the company behind GPT-4, ChatGPT, Sora, and many other state-of-the-art AI technologies. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
– Cloaked: https://cloaked.com/lex and use code LexPod to get 25% off
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Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/sam-altman-2-transcript
EPISODE LINKS:
Sam’s X: https://x.com/sama
Sam’s Blog: https://blog.samaltman.com/
OpenAI’s X: https://x.com/OpenAI
OpenAI’s Website: https://openai.com
ChatGPT Website: https://chat.openai.com/
Sora Website: https://openai.com/sora
GPT-4 Website: https://openai.com/research/gpt-4
PODCAST INFO:
Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast
Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr
Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8
RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/
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OUTLINE:
Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.
(00:00) – Introduction
(07:51) – OpenAI board saga
(25:17) – Ilya Sutskever
(31:26) – Elon Musk lawsuit
(41:18) – Sora
(51:09) – GPT-4
(1:02:18) – Memory & privacy
(1:09:22) – Q*
(1:12:58) – GPT-5
(1:16:13) – $7 trillion of compute
(1:24:22) – Google and Gemini
(1:35:26) – Leap to GPT-5
(1:39:10) – AGI
(1:57:44) – Aliens
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#418 – Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris
Norman Finkelstein and Benny Morris are historians. Mouin Rabbani is a Middle East analyst. Steven Bonnell (aka Destiny) is a political livestreamer. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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Norman and Mouin provided additional links to supplement the discussion. See them here: https://sites.google.com/view/israel-palestine-debate/home
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OUTLINE:
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(00:00) – Introduction
(12:11) – 1948
(1:10:43) – Partition
(2:15:16) – October 7
(3:09:27) – Gaza
(3:36:02) – Peace
(4:40:47) – Hope for the future
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#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy
Annie Jacobsen is an investigative journalist and author of “Nuclear War: A Scenario” and many other books on war, weapons, government secrecy, and national security. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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OUTLINE:
Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.
(00:00) – Introduction
(07:37) – Nuclear war
(12:21) – Launch procedure
(18:00) – Deterrence
(21:34) – Tactical nukes
(30:59) – Nuclear submarines
(33:59) – Nuclear missiles
(41:10) – Nuclear football
(50:17) – Missile interceptor system
(54:34) – North Korea
(1:01:10) – Nuclear war scenarios
(1:10:02) – Warmongers
(1:14:31) – President’s cognitive ability
(1:20:43) – Refusing orders
(1:28:41) – Russia and Putin
(1:33:48) – Cyberattack
(1:35:09) – Ground zero of nuclear war
(1:39:48) – Surviving nuclear war
(1:44:06) – Nuclear winter
(1:54:29) – Alien civilizations
(2:00:04) – Extrasensory perception
(2:13:50) – Area 51
(2:17:48) – UFOs and aliens
(2:28:15) – Roswell incident
(2:34:55) – CIA assassinations
(2:53:47) – Navalny
(2:56:12) – KGB
(3:02:48) – Hitler and the atomic bomb
(3:06:52) – War and human nature
(3:10:17) – Hope
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