
CarPlay or the Highway?
03/06/24 • 72 min
This week, we discuss the tension between integrated in-car UX platforms vs Apple’s CarPlay & Android Auto. When, if ever, does it make sense to give up control of your product experience?
FOLLOW-UPS – 02:21
Tesler’s Law, aka Conservation of Complexity
Theodore Leavitt on Marketing Myopia
@geoffbaron: The difference between PMs & developers
@tr3v: No one was ever inspired by a KPI
CARPLAY OR THE HIGHWAY – 12:20
@kirankripakaran on Threads
Everybody hates GM’s decision to kill Apple CarPlay
We need to talk about digital ownership
BMW re-thinks on-demand services
Car-seat install bricks new Ferrari
Bang & Olufsen designed its new speaker for a long life
Framework modular laptop
Kia Reveals Modular EV Van Lineup
Apple’s next-gen CarPlay
Mini’s new giant circular OLED on the dash
MKBHD: The Kia EV9 is Surprisingly Good!
About those kill-switched Ukrainian tractors
IMPLICATIONS FOR PEOPLE MAKING PRODUCTS – 54:07
Nassim Nicholas Taleb: Antifragile
Bezos Wisdom: “Focus on the things that don’t change”
WEEKLY RECS – 01:02:00
Morgan Aeromax
Troubleshooter: Morgan (1990)
Troubleshooter: Morgan (2000)
Perfect Days
How Toilets Got a Starring Role in a Wim Wenders Movie
Komorebi
CLOSING & PREVIEW – 01:11:13
(Image: Apple)
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Rant, rave or otherwise via email at [email protected] or on Threads @LearnMakeLearnShow.
CREDITS
Theme: Vendla / Today Is a Good Day / courtesy of www.epidemicsound.com
Drum hit: PREL / Musical Element 85 / courtesy of www.epidemicsound.com
This week, we discuss the tension between integrated in-car UX platforms vs Apple’s CarPlay & Android Auto. When, if ever, does it make sense to give up control of your product experience?
FOLLOW-UPS – 02:21
Tesler’s Law, aka Conservation of Complexity
Theodore Leavitt on Marketing Myopia
@geoffbaron: The difference between PMs & developers
@tr3v: No one was ever inspired by a KPI
CARPLAY OR THE HIGHWAY – 12:20
@kirankripakaran on Threads
Everybody hates GM’s decision to kill Apple CarPlay
We need to talk about digital ownership
BMW re-thinks on-demand services
Car-seat install bricks new Ferrari
Bang & Olufsen designed its new speaker for a long life
Framework modular laptop
Kia Reveals Modular EV Van Lineup
Apple’s next-gen CarPlay
Mini’s new giant circular OLED on the dash
MKBHD: The Kia EV9 is Surprisingly Good!
About those kill-switched Ukrainian tractors
IMPLICATIONS FOR PEOPLE MAKING PRODUCTS – 54:07
Nassim Nicholas Taleb: Antifragile
Bezos Wisdom: “Focus on the things that don’t change”
WEEKLY RECS – 01:02:00
Morgan Aeromax
Troubleshooter: Morgan (1990)
Troubleshooter: Morgan (2000)
Perfect Days
How Toilets Got a Starring Role in a Wim Wenders Movie
Komorebi
CLOSING & PREVIEW – 01:11:13
(Image: Apple)
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Rant, rave or otherwise via email at [email protected] or on Threads @LearnMakeLearnShow.
CREDITS
Theme: Vendla / Today Is a Good Day / courtesy of www.epidemicsound.com
Drum hit: PREL / Musical Element 85 / courtesy of www.epidemicsound.com
Previous Episode

WTF is a Product Manager?
This week, we dive into Ernest's career as a product manager/product marketer and discuss what a product manager does, how to sift meaningful insights from the noise, how to enter the field & much more.
FOLLOW-UPS – 02:25
Surprised by the Hot Hand Fallacy?
Imagined Consumption Reduces Actual Consumption
I placed too much faith in underpowered studies
WTF IS A PRODUCT MANAGER? – 07:24
Ernest’s blog post on this topic
Why The Hidden Risks Of Specialization Help Explain Crises
How “Jobs to Be Done” Can Help You Make, Better
UNDERSTANDING YOUR CUSTOMER – 12:04
THE PRODUCT BRIEF – 21:34
Give me the freedom of a tight brief
GETTING TO THE WHY – 26:09
Coca-Cola “Polar Bowl”
CHEERLEADING, MOMENTUM, HONESTY & RISK – 33:32
The Greatest Night in Pop
THE DREADED ‘CEO PROJECT’ – 39:43
WHAT PEOPLE GET WRONG ABOUT PRODUCT MANAGEMENT – 41:47
Sports Product Management at University of Oregon
HOW TO BECOME A PM – 45:06
Kicksology.net—Don’t Call it a Comeback
Apple Hires Anand Lal Shimpi
Google hires The Verge’s Deiter Bohn
Architecture and design with Dami
ADVICE TO YOUR 16-YEAR-OLD SELF – 53:22
Steve Jobs Secrets of Life
WEEKLY RECS – 55:53
BBC Connections
The Greatest Shot in Television
Steve Jobs, internal “Chalk Talk” for NeXT, 1991
Naim Mu-So 2
Andrew Robinson’s review of the Mu-So 2
NeXT Cube
Steve Jobs intro’s the original iMac
CLOSING & PREVIEW – 01:07:53
(Image credit: Ernest Kim)
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Rant, rave or otherwise via email at [email protected] or on Threads @LearnMakeLearnShow.
CREDITS
Theme: Vendla / Today Is a Good Day / courtesy of www.epidemicsound.com
Drum hit: PREL / Musical Element 85 / courtesy of www.epidemicsound.com
Next Episode

Can Restomod Culture Go Mainstream?
This week, we talk restomods. It’s a concept born of the automotive world—extending the life of a classic car by modernizing it—but we discuss the potential to apply this idea to categories beyond cars. With sustainability now a must-have in product creation, we believe the restomod concept is ripe for mainstream adoption.
FOLLOW-UPS – 01:24
Behind Apple’s Doomed Car Project
RIP Apple Car. This Is Why It Died.
CAN RESTOMOD CULTURE GO MAINSTREAM? – 08:28
Restomod Culture is Just Getting Started
Charge Cars
Fineeleven
Singer Vehicle Design
Electrogenic Mini Conversion Kit
Totem Automobili
How I Designed the MINI COOPER
RESTOMODS—BEYOND AUTOMOTIVE – 21:39
Desire Path
Twitter features invented by its users
EOE Works
Flop Rock
Pixar Headquarters
APPLICATIONS FOR MAKERS – 35:28
A proven strategy to keep old tractors safely running
Are In-House Watch Movements Overrated?
Vibram: Repair If You Care
Bedrock Re-Soul Program
ThredUp Resale Report
Sashiko
Kintsugi
Recycling Is Beyond Fixing
Rolex’s CPO Program
Dieter Rams: 10 Principles of Good Design
WEEKLY RECS – 57:41
Rhinoshield CrashGuard
Peak Design Mobile Slim Wallet
Brudertoys
CLOSING & PREVIEW – 01:06:26
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Rant, rave or otherwise via email at [email protected] or on Threads @LearnMakeLearnShow.
CREDITS
Theme: Vendla / Today Is a Good Day / courtesy of www.epidemicsound.com
Drum hit: PREL / Musical Element 85 / courtesy of www.epidemicsound.com
Learn, Make, Learn - CarPlay or the Highway?
Transcript
Hello and welcome to Learn Make Learn where we share qualitative and quantitative perspectives on products to help you make better. My name is Ernest Kim, and I'm joined by my friend and co-host Joachim Groeger. Hey, Joachim, how's it going?
JoachimHello. I'm still under the weather, but, again, not bad enough to cancel on anything. A little rundown. I want this be over. I want us to be able to be outside
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