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#50 – Alexander Long on Pluralis Research and protocol learning for frontier models
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02/25/25 • 74 min
This is my conversation with Alexander Long, Founder & CEO of Pluralis Research.
Timestamps:
- (00:00:00) intro
- (00:00:55) collaborative training
- (00:09:49) economics of training
- (00:13:10) what is protocol learning?
- (00:20:48) protocol learning design and politics
- (00:33:39) sponsor: Splits
- (00:34:22) hardware requirements
- (00:41:53) adapting to the landscape
- (00:49:53) open and closed models
- (00:52:52) market structure with fully open models
- (00:56:34) research and risks
- (01:02:19) labor and national security
- (01:10:58) looking to the future
- (01:14:20) outro
Links:
- Alexander on X: https://x.com/_alexanderlong
- Alexander on Github: https://github.com/AlexanderJLong
- Article 2: Protocol Learning, Protocol Models and the Great Convergence: https://www.pluralisresearch.com/p/article-2-protocol-learning-protocol
- Decentralized Training Looms: https://www.pluralisresearch.com/p/decentralized-ai-looms
Thank you to our sponsor for making this podcast possible:
- Splits: https://splits.org
Into the Bytecode:
- Sina Habibian on X: https://twitter.com/sinahab
- Sina Habibian on Farcaster - https://warpcast.com/sinahab
- Into the Bytecode: https://intothebytecode.com
Disclaimer: this podcast is for informational purposes only. It is not financial advice nor a recommendation to buy or sell securities. The host and guests may hold positions in the projects discussed.

#40 – Vitalik Buterin on political philosophy in the 21st century
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09/20/24 • 59 min
This is my conversation with Vitalik Buterin, creator of Ethereum.
Timestamps:
(00:00:00) - intro
(00:00:33) - the crypto lens on political philosophy
(00:15:12) - the transition from the 20th to the 21st century
(00:24:29) - sponsor: Splits
(00:25:12) - the dimensions of uncertainty
(00:46:14) - the duality between being idealistic and effective
(00:58:46) - outro
Links:
Vitalik Buterin on X - https://x.com/VitalikButerin
Vitalik Buterin on Farcaster - https://warpcast.com/vitalik.eth
Vitalik Buterin on making sense in a changing world - https://www.intothebytecode.com/26-vitalik
Vitalik Buterin on retroactive public goods funding - https://www.intothebytecode.com/1-vitalik-buterin-karl-floersch-retroactive-public-goods-funding
Thank you to our sponsor for making this podcast possible:
Splits - https://splits.org
Into the Bytecode:
Sina Habibian on X - https://twitter.com/sinahab
Sina Habibian on Farcaster - https://warpcast.com/sinahab
Into the Bytecode - https://intothebytecode.com
Disclaimer: this podcast is for informational purposes only. It is not financial advice nor a recommendation to buy or sell securities. The host and guests may hold positions in the projects discussed.

#49 – Jim Posen on cryptographic acceleration with Binius
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02/13/25 • 73 min
This is my conversation with Jim Posen, the Cofounder and CTO at Irreducible.
Timestamps:
- (00:00:00) intro
- (00:01:12) getting deeper into cryptography
- (00:07:06) revisiting binary fields
- (00:15:50) building the verifiable internet
- (00:26:14) sponsor: Splits
- (00:26:57) revival of binary fields
- (00:38:55) Binius
- (00:42:46) bringing Binius to production
- (00:48:27) creating new hardware
- (00:53:57) getting to v1
- (01:02:03) Ethereum stateless proofs and zkVMs
- (01:13:21) outro
Links:
- Jim on X: https://x.com/jimpo_potamus
- Jim on Github: https://github.com/jimpo
- Irreducible: https://www.irreducible.com/
- Binius: a Hardware-Optimized SNARK: https://www.irreducible.com/posts/binius-hardware-optimized-snark
- Binary Tower Fields are the Future of Verifiable Computing: https://www.irreducible.com/posts/binary-tower-fields-are-the-future-of-verifiable-computing
Thank you to our sponsor for making this podcast possible:
- Splits: https://splits.org
Into the Bytecode:
- Sina Habibian on X: https://twitter.com/sinahab
- Sina Habibian on Farcaster - https://warpcast.com/sinahab
- Into the Bytecode: https://intothebytecode.com
Disclaimer: this podcast is for informational purposes only. It is not financial advice nor a recommendation to buy or sell securities. The host and guests may hold positions in the projects discussed.

#48 – Michael Bentley on Euler, credit, and natural selection
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01/10/25 • 86 min
This is my conversation with Michael Bentley, the cofounder and CEO of Euler and previously a dynamical systems postdoctoral research associate at Oxford.
Timestamps:
- (00:00:00) intro
- (00:01:11) early DeFi and experiencing the 2008 crash
- (00:06:52) interest rate design and PIDs
- (00:20:40) risk management
- (00:28:27) sponsor: Splits
- (00:29:10) macro view of the world
- (00:32:27) the fundamental importance of credit
- (00:35:47) Euler protocol design
- (00:39:08) modularity and integration
- (00:54:40) network topology
- (01:10:55) natural selection and dynamical systems
- (01:26:33) outro
Links:
- Michael on X: https://x.com/euler_mab
- Michael on Medium: https://medium.com/@euler-mab
- Michael Bentley on the evolution of lending protocols: https://youtu.be/TW9Tv2Y0fkw
- Euler: https://www.euler.finance
Thank you to our sponsor for making this podcast possible:
- Splits: https://splits.org
Into the Bytecode:
- Sina Habibian on X: https://twitter.com/sinahab
- Sina Habibian on Farcaster - https://warpcast.com/sinahab
- Into the Bytecode: https://intothebytecode.com
Disclaimer: this podcast is for informational purposes only. It is not financial advice nor a recommendation to buy or sell securities. The host and guests may hold positions in the projects discussed.

#44 – Markus Haas on ethOS and building a crypto-native device
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11/29/24 • 49 min
This is my conversation with Markus Haas, the CEO of Freedom Factory and cocreator of the dGEN1.
Timestamps:
(00:00:00) - intro
(00:00:28) - ethOS origin story
(00:07:54) - the vision and values
(00:09:56) - the need for an alternative to iOS and Android
(00:15:30) - sponsor: Splits
(00:16:14) - building on GrapheneOS
(00:28:32) - dGEN1, an everyday carry device
(00:37:05) - what's next for ethOS?
(00:43:02) - the company, funding, profitability
(00:49:00) - outro
Links:
- Markus on X: https://x.com/mhaas_eth
- ethOS on X: https://x.com/EthereumPhone
- GrapheneOS: https://grapheneos.org/
- Freedom Factory website: https://www.freedomfactory.io/
Thank you to our sponsor for making this podcast possible:
- Splits: https://splits.org
Into the Bytecode:
- Sina Habibian on X: https://twitter.com/sinahab
- Sina Habibian on Farcaster - https://warpcast.com/sinahab
- Into the Bytecode: https://intothebytecode.com
Disclaimer: this podcast is for informational purposes only. It is not financial advice nor a recommendation to buy or sell securities. The host and guests may hold positions in the projects discussed.

#32 – Rish: building infrastructure with Neynar
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05/17/24 • 79 min
This is my conversation with Rish, cofounder of Neynar, building infrastructure for Farcaster.
Timestamps:
(00:00:00) - intro
(00:01:51) - sponsor: Optimism
(00:03:01) - the idea maze for Neynar
(00:12:46) - exit, building blocks, and monetization models
(00:17:20) - how Neynar is architected
(00:21:52) - handling Frames Friday
(00:25:04) - scaling infrastructure by mapping requests to resources
(00:35:05) - sponsor: Privy
(00:36:25) - taking good risks as a startup
(00:41:55) - iteration and planning ahead, breadth vs depth-first search
(00:45:36) - the channel protocol spec
(00:51:26) - why build Frame Studio
(00:56:55) - companies become extensions of their founders
(01:05:53) - working on the Base team
(01:10:28) - having a tight feedback loop with users
(01:15:18) - cofounder relationship with Manan
(01:19:25) - outro
Links:
Rish - https://warpcast.com/rish
Neynar - https://neynar.com
Thank you to our sponsors for making this podcast possible:
Optimism - https://optimism.io
Privy - https://privy.io
Into the Bytecode:
- Sina Habibian on X: https://twitter.com/sinahab
- Sina Habibian on Farcaster - https://warpcast.com/sinahab
- Into the Bytecode: https://intothebytecode.com
Disclaimer: this podcast is for informational purposes only. It is not financial advice or a recommendation to buy or sell securities. The host and guests may hold positions in the projects discussed.

Hart Lambur: UMA, Across, Oval, and MEV capture for protocols
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01/24/24 • 61 min
This is my conversation with Hart Lambur. We talk about Hart's path in building UMA (an oracle using schelling points to bring data onchain), Across (an intents-based bridge connecting ETH/L2s), and now Oval (MEV capture for oracle price updates).
Timestamps:
(00:00:00) - Intro
(00:01:29) - Sponsor: Privy (privy.io)
(00:02:50) - The idea maze, Goldman Sachs, RFQ systems, legal vs smart contracts
(00:11:03) - UMA, schelling point and optimistic oracle
(00:16:41) - Raising the seed round
(00:19:38) - Across, intent-based bridging architecture
(00:30:42) - Sponsor: Optimism (optimism.io)
(00:31:52) - Oval
(00:46:15) - MEV capture for protocols
(01:01:22) - Outro
Thank you to our sponsors for making this podcast possible:
Optimism - https://optimism.io
Privy - https://privy.io
Into the Bytecode:
- Sina Habibian on X: https://twitter.com/sinahab
- Sina Habibian on Farcaster - https://warpcast.com/sinahab
- Into the Bytecode: https://intothebytecode.com
Disclaimer: this podcast is for informational purposes only. It is not financial advice or a recommendation to buy or sell securities. The host and guests may hold positions in the projects discussed.

06/14/22 • 76 min
Here is my conversation with Josh Stark.
Josh has a long history in the Ethereum ecosystem going back to the early days of the community. He cofounded one of the first L2 scaling protocols with Counterfactual. He also cofounded ETHGlobal which is a much-loved series of hackathons/events that brings the community together and which acts as an entry point into the ecosystem for many people. And nowadays and most relevant to our conversation, he works in a leadership capacity at the Ethereum Foundation.
In this conversation, we talked about two topics: one being the Ethereum Foundation, and two being the question of why blockchain is matter — this being something that Josh has spent a lot of time thinking about and which he's written about in a long form piece titled Atoms Institutions Blockchains.
Timestamps:
(00:00:00) - intro
(00:03:50) - subtraction
(00:07:22) - creating a self-sufficient crypto ecosystem
(00:12:33) - the property of ‘hardness’ for blockchains
(00:17:47) - understanding decentralization
(00:23:11) - Atoms, Institutions, Blockchains
(00:26:00) - blind men and an elephant
(00:33:06) - our civilization’s infrastructure
(00:43:33) - digitally-native hardness
(00:59:38) - how the EF operates
(01:06:21) - challenges with decentralized coordination
(01:12:08) - infinite players have nothing but their names
Links:
Atoms, Institutions, Blockchains: https://stark.mirror.xyz/n2UpRqwdf7yjuiPKVICPpGoUNeDhlWxGqjulrlpyYi0
Into the Bytecode:
- Sina Habibian on X: https://twitter.com/sinahab
- Sina Habibian on Farcaster - https://warpcast.com/sinahab
- Into the Bytecode: https://intothebytecode.com
Disclaimer: this podcast is for informational purposes only. It is not financial advice or a recommendation to buy or sell securities. The host and guests may hold positions in the projects discussed.

08/24/22 • 94 min
Julien Niset is the cofounder and Chief Science Officer at Argent, a crypto wallet that's used and loved by many people in the crypto ecosystem.
In this conversation, we talk about how Argent has evolved to get to where it is today. How Julien sees user experience evolving broadly in the ecosystem, and what the flow of a new person interacting with a crypto application for the first time might look like in the future.
Another topic we get into deeply is L2s, how Julien and Argent have thought about the topic of EVM equivalence and compatibility, and why they ultimately chose to build on ZK Rollups like ZkSync and StarkNet.
And lastly, we dive into what has been like to build on StarkNet, what the early community feels like today, what it's been like to write code in Cairo, and as a bit of a snapshot into this experience we do a deep dive into what account abstraction looks like on StarkNet.
Timestamps:
(00:00:00) - intro
(00:01:56) - leaning into zk rollups and account abstraction
(00:07:29) - scaling the self-custody experience
(00:13:20) - what onboarding users to crypto will look like in 3 years
(00:20:24) - some of the friction points that still need to be abstracted
(00:33:52) - L2s and the trade-offs between different rollups
(00:39:45) - is breaking EVM-equivalency worth it?
(00:48:01) - Julien’s experience in the StarkNet ecosystem
(00:58:24) - a technical primer on account abstraction
(01:15:38) - session keys
(01:28:17) - starting a sensible wallet set up from scratch
Links:
Julien Niset - https://twitter.com/jniset
Argent - https://www.argent.xyz/
StarkNet - https://starkware.co/starknet/
zkSync - https://zksync.io/
Topology - https://www.topology.gg/
Into the Bytecode:
- Sina Habibian on X: https://twitter.com/sinahab
- Sina Habibian on Farcaster - https://warpcast.com/sinahab
- Into the Bytecode: https://intothebytecode.com
Disclaimer: this podcast is for informational purposes only. It is not financial advice or a recommendation to buy or sell securities. The host and guests may hold positions in the projects discussed.

#36 – Justin Glibert: from Economicus to Ludens
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07/16/24 • 89 min
This is my conversation with Justin Glibert, CEO of Lattice and cofounder of 0xPARC.
Timestamps:
(00:00:00) - intro
(00:00:44) - digital physics
(00:06:27) - changing physics + capitalism = theme parks
(00:16:12) - objective functions are political
(00:22:53) - sponsor: Optimism
(00:23:58) - individual agency
(00:27:25) - violence on the internet
(00:39:17) - monoliths
(00:47:24) - sponsor: Privy
(00:48:40) - value systems
(00:58:34) - homo economicus and homo ludens
(01:10:50) - Emissary’s guide to worlding
(01:16:55) - reading weird books
(01:28:49) - outro
Links:
Justin Glibert - https://x.com/justinglibert
Lattice - https://lattice.xyz/
0xPARC - https://0xparc.org/
Thank you to our sponsors for making this podcast possible:
Optimism - https://optimism.io
Privy - https://privy.io
Into the Bytecode:
- Sina Habibian on X: https://twitter.com/sinahab
- Sina Habibian on Farcaster - https://warpcast.com/sinahab
- Into the Bytecode: https://intothebytecode.com
Disclaimer: this podcast is for informational purposes only. It is not financial advice nor a recommendation to buy or sell securities. The host and guests may hold positions in the projects discussed.
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Into the Bytecode currently has 52 episodes available.
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The podcast is about Blockchain, Cryptocurrency, Nft, Defi, Ethereum, Podcasts, Technology and Business.
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