
#44 – Markus Haas on ethOS and building a crypto-native device
11/29/24 • 49 min
This is my conversation with Markus Haas, the CEO of Freedom Factory and cocreator of the dGEN1.
Timestamps:
(00:00:00) - intro
(00:00:28) - ethOS origin story
(00:07:54) - the vision and values
(00:09:56) - the need for an alternative to iOS and Android
(00:15:30) - sponsor: Splits
(00:16:14) - building on GrapheneOS
(00:28:32) - dGEN1, an everyday carry device
(00:37:05) - what's next for ethOS?
(00:43:02) - the company, funding, profitability
(00:49:00) - outro
Links:
- Markus on X: https://x.com/mhaas_eth
- ethOS on X: https://x.com/EthereumPhone
- GrapheneOS: https://grapheneos.org/
- Freedom Factory website: https://www.freedomfactory.io/
Thank you to our sponsor for making this podcast possible:
- Splits: https://splits.org
Into the Bytecode:
- Sina Habibian on X: https://twitter.com/sinahab
- Sina Habibian on Farcaster - https://warpcast.com/sinahab
- Into the Bytecode: https://intothebytecode.com
Disclaimer: this podcast is for informational purposes only. It is not financial advice nor a recommendation to buy or sell securities. The host and guests may hold positions in the projects discussed.
This is my conversation with Markus Haas, the CEO of Freedom Factory and cocreator of the dGEN1.
Timestamps:
(00:00:00) - intro
(00:00:28) - ethOS origin story
(00:07:54) - the vision and values
(00:09:56) - the need for an alternative to iOS and Android
(00:15:30) - sponsor: Splits
(00:16:14) - building on GrapheneOS
(00:28:32) - dGEN1, an everyday carry device
(00:37:05) - what's next for ethOS?
(00:43:02) - the company, funding, profitability
(00:49:00) - outro
Links:
- Markus on X: https://x.com/mhaas_eth
- ethOS on X: https://x.com/EthereumPhone
- GrapheneOS: https://grapheneos.org/
- Freedom Factory website: https://www.freedomfactory.io/
Thank you to our sponsor for making this podcast possible:
- Splits: https://splits.org
Into the Bytecode:
- Sina Habibian on X: https://twitter.com/sinahab
- Sina Habibian on Farcaster - https://warpcast.com/sinahab
- Into the Bytecode: https://intothebytecode.com
Disclaimer: this podcast is for informational purposes only. It is not financial advice nor a recommendation to buy or sell securities. The host and guests may hold positions in the projects discussed.
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#43 – Uma Roy on Succinct, STARKs, and zkVM architecture
This is my conversation with Uma Roy, cofounder and CEO of Succinct.
Timestamps:
(00:00:00) - intro
(00:00:57) - origin story
(00:02:19) - SP1 architecture
(00:09:43) - STARKs, FRI, and hash-based cryptography
(00:15:09) - recursion
(00:21:12) - upgrading the proof system
(00:33:11) - sponsor: Splits
(00:33:54) - security in ZK systems
(00:37:46) - converting optimistic rollups into zk rollups
(00:43:39) - zkVM vs custom circuits
(00:48:48) - ZK for scaling and interoperability
(01:00:24) - the lifecycle of a proof
(01:06:26) - hardware
(01:10:57) - outro
Links
- Uma on X: https://x.com/pumatheuma
- Succinct on X: https://x.com/succinctlabs
Thank you to our sponsor for making this podcast possible:
- Splits: https://splits.org
Into the Bytecode:
- Sina Habibian on X: https://twitter.com/sinahab
- Sina Habibian on Farcaster - https://warpcast.com/sinahab
- Into the Bytecode: https://intothebytecode.com
Disclaimer: this podcast is for informational purposes only. It is not financial advice nor a recommendation to buy or sell securities. The host and guests may hold positions in the projects discussed.
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#45 – Quintus Kilbourn on TEEs and Secure Hardware
This is my conversation with Quintus Kilbourn, researcher at Flashbots and currently working on Trusted Execution Environments (TEEs).
Timestamps:
- (00:00:00) - intro
- (00:01:06) - what is a TEE
- (00:12:23) - TEE use cases: one-shot transactions, autonomous AI agents
- (00:25:27) - unbreakable hardware enclaves
- (00:41:14) - physical hardware access as a threat vector
- (00:47:20) - sponsor: Splits
- (00:48:04) - defending against physical attacks
- (00:55:57) - resources focused on TEEs
- (01:10:25) - defending against supply chain attacks
- (01:19:34) - hardware imaging
- (01:28:48) - the roadmap
- (01:32:53) - outro
Links:
- Quintus on X: https://x.com/0xQuintus
- Flashbots: https://www.flashbots.net/
- ZTEE: https://writings.flashbots.net/ZTEE
Thank you to our sponsor for making this podcast possible:
- Splits: https://splits.org
Into the Bytecode:
- Sina Habibian on X: https://twitter.com/sinahab
- Sina Habibian on Farcaster - https://warpcast.com/sinahab
- Into the Bytecode: https://intothebytecode.com
Disclaimer: this podcast is for informational purposes only. It is not financial advice nor a recommendation to buy or sell securities. The host and guests may hold positions in the projects discussed.
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